Buy F1 car

freestyla · 01-05-2012 10:24am #1

Something fun for dry track days

FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

US $975,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

GTE · 01-05-2012 1:00pm

freestyla wrote: »

Something fun for dry track days

FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

US $975,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

Whip a 1.9TDI in there and you got quite a daily commute.

I joke of course!

Jordan 199 · 01-05-2012 1:50pm

freestyla wrote: »

Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

It sure is beautiful, comes with a 7 speed semi auto gearbox and most importantly it has a V12 motor.

Alain Prost wasn't fond of it at all though, and was fired over comments he made about it...

Btw, there's a moose behind the wheel in some of the pics.

Dravokivich · 01-05-2012 4:41pm

The steering wheel looks so simple... :eek:

Jordan 199 · 01-05-2012 4:57pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

The steering wheel looks so simple... :eek:

Doesn't it just. 2 buttons at the front and the paddle shifters at the back.

Ferrari 642 (1991) steering wheel:

Ferrari F1 2012 steering wheel:

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smellslikeshoes · 02-05-2012 3:28am

Have often looked at the sites selling F1 cars (spending my hypothetical lotto winnings :pac:), more modern cars than that Ferrari are regularly up for much less. Would love to know what having one for track days would actually set you back in running costs. I'd say keeping engines in them would be the stuff of nightmares.

Monty Burnz · 02-05-2012 1:29pm

freestyla wrote: »

Something fun for dry track days

FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

US $975,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

There's a shop less than 5 minutes walk from me with not only F1 cars for sale (one from the 50s, one from the 70s at present) but also cars that competed at Le Mans, a BMW M1, a De Tomaso Pantera, a whole flock of Ferraris, a Jaguar XJ220, and various more modest cars like Fiat 124 Spiders, Bristols, AC Cobras and so forth...:)

freestyla · 02-05-2012 4:04pm

Now found it, well just on youtube, but here you get car, truck and mechanics (and Alesi as instructor!) for a occassional track day.. can't find anywhere how much this fun costs.. would remember around 200-300 grands?

Lotus T125
Cosworth V8, meh.. only 10.500rpm but 640hp @ 600kg is still thrill

Monty, wheres that shop mate? want to come there to check out.. closer to my Lotto fantasies

02-05-2012 4:50pm

The one in the OP doesn't look like it's been well looked after, tyres look completely bald.

Jordan 199 · 02-05-2012 5:19pm

Ficus wrote: »

http://www.racecarsdirect.com is usually well stocked with F1 cars for sale

I see that they have a 3 seat Arrows up for sale.

Monty Burnz · 02-05-2012 6:12pm

freestyla wrote: »

Monty, wheres that shop mate? want to come there to check out.. closer to my Lotto fantasies

This is the one. Tucked away in a suburb, you'd never know it was such a goldmine of exotic and classic cars...

freestyla · 03-05-2012 11:58am

Ficus wrote: »

http://www.racecarsdirect.com is usually well stocked with F1 cars for sale

:eek: Ex Ayrton Senna 1984 Toleman TG-184-2
http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/42704/ex_ayrton_senna_1984_toleman_tg_184_2.html

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I see that they have a 3 seat Arrows up for sale.

For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props

SilverScreen · 03-05-2012 10:37pm

freestyla wrote: »

Something fun for dry track days

FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

US $975,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

I wonder will it pass the NCT? I wouldn't mind taking it for a test drive either before I buy it.

freestyla wrote: »

For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props

Handy for bringing the kids to school

Jordan 199 · 04-05-2012 12:51am

freestyla wrote: »

For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props

Lol. Arrows weren't the only team to have a 3 seater car. Ferrari & Renault had them too.

Mickey H · 04-05-2012 6:11pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Lol. Arrows weren't the only team to have a 3 seater car. Ferrari & Renault had them too.

Thanks for this Jordan. I knew of 2 seater F1s but not 3 seaters. They look really nice, but they'd be useless for Q3 with all that extra weight.

Jordan 199 · 04-05-2012 7:10pm

Mickey H wrote: »

Thanks for this Jordan. I knew of 2 seater F1s but not 3 seaters. They look really nice, but they'd be useless for Q3 with all that extra weight.

You're welcome Mr. H

McLaren were the first team to have a 2 seater car, followed by Minardi and Arrows.

BenMicheal · 12-05-2012 3:20pm

In fairness tho, if you had a milion to spend on an F1 car - The Alesi's Ferrari probably wouldnt be top of your list tho?

shamwari · 13-05-2012 12:51am

If I were to buy an ex-F1 Ferrari then it would be this baby - a year before the one posted by the OP

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/alain-prosts-fated-ferrari-641-2-f1-car-under-the-hammer-at-mar/

I saw this particular car race at Silverstone and sound of its Tipo V12 was music....

guyfo · 13-05-2012 3:49pm

shamwari wrote: »

If I were to buy an ex-F1 Ferrari then it would be this baby - a year before the one posted by the OP

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/alain-prosts-fated-ferrari-641-2-f1-car-under-the-hammer-at-mar/

I saw this particular car race at Silverstone and sound of its Tipo V12 was music....

Interesting quote in the description of that add.

"Senna was on pole, Prost right next to him. The lights flashed green, both drivers sped into the first corner where Senna closed the door on Prost and the two collided. Their race was over, and the title was handed to Senna."

Funny i seem to remember it being the opposite way round.

Monty Burnz · 13-05-2012 3:50pm

guyfo wrote: »

Interesting quote in the description of that add.

"Senna was on pole, Prost right next to him. The lights flashed green, both drivers sped into the first corner where Senna closed the door on Prost and the two collided. Their race was over, and the title was handed to Senna."

Funny i seem to remember it being the opposite way round.

Is that you, Ayrton?

smellslikeshoes · 13-05-2012 7:11pm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Is that you, Ayrton?

Um he's right though, the quote is bollocks.
Prost was in front coming into the first corner when Senna made a move most agree was intended to take them both out.

I guess the writer of that article was one of the few people who think Senna actually intended to make that corner and just got his names mixed up.

Monty Burnz · 13-05-2012 7:41pm

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Um he's right though, the quote is bollocks.

Um...it was a joke.

smellslikeshoes · 13-05-2012 8:09pm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Um...it was a joke.

Jokes are supposed to be funny.

Monty Burnz · 13-05-2012 8:10pm

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Jokes are supposed to be funny.

No call for that tbh.

smellslikeshoes · 13-05-2012 8:19pm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

No call for that tbh.

Your comment about it being a joke was snide.
Not going to post anything more on it, don't want to bring thread any further off topic.

Monty Burnz · 13-05-2012 8:21pm

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Your comment about it being a joke was snide.

Yes, that was why I put a smiley face there - the universal sign of sarkiness. :rolleyes:

Jordan 199 · 19-07-2012 12:53am

€729,000 for Schumi's Benetton B191.

freestyla · 19-07-2012 12:22pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

€729,000 for Schumi's Benetton B191.

A bargain hehe

Respect for the fact Schumi got his first points with it but only 640hp is not so F1 territory

PJTierney · 19-07-2012 1:12pm

Anyone remember that guy who built his own BAR/Honda from collecting used parts? Came to something relatively cheap pricewise.

Jordan 199 · 19-07-2012 1:55pm

freestyla wrote: »

A bargain hehe

Respect for the fact Schumi got his first points with it but only 640hp is not so F1 territory

It said in the advert that the power output of the Cosworth HB used in the Benetton during the 1991 season was 730bhp, but the one in the car that's been sold has 640bhp, so that has to be an older spec HB engine, used by Benetton around 1989/1990.

SouperComputer · 19-07-2012 4:18pm

PJTierney wrote: »

Anyone remember that guy who built his own BAR/Honda from collecting used parts? Came to something relatively cheap pricewise.

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9325&hilit=ra107&start=240

Buying an F1 car, esp a rolling chassis can be pretty cheap. Getting it to the track, safely and running it is not, esp with carbon fire suspension parts. They need to be checked with cracks with an ultrasound (effectively), visual inspection will not suffice. Miss a crack and I think you can guess what happens.

ScumLord · 20-07-2012 1:02pm

I suppose these older cars (90s) will be the last people will realistically be able to buy. The newer ones are just to complicated even to start up that I think there will be very few running examples of cars from the turn of the century, once they're retired.

Jordan 199 · 20-07-2012 5:13pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I suppose these older cars (90s) will be the last people will realistically be able to buy. The newer ones are just to complicated even to start up that I think there will be very few running examples of cars from the turn of the century, once they're retired.

Most of the ones I see for sale are mostly from the 1990's and a few from the 1980's and 2000's.

A Jaguar R3 piloted by Mark Webber is available for £299,500 and comes with a Cosworth V10.

ScumLord · 20-07-2012 5:46pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Most of the ones I see for sale are mostly from the 1990's and a few from the 1980's and 2000's.

A Jaguar R3 piloted by Mark Webber is available for £299,500 and comes with a Cosworth V10.

Even if I was rich enough to own one I think I'd be put off by the fact if you don't start it the right way you'll completely destroy the engine. Would it even be possible to get parts for them?

Jordan 199 · 20-07-2012 6:57pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Even if I was rich enough to own one I think I'd be put off by the fact if you don't start it the right way you'll completely destroy the engine. Would it even be possible to get parts for them?

If something went wrong with the engine, I think you would be looking at savage repair bills.

Kxiii · 21-07-2012 12:06am

Fifth gear done a segment on it a few years ago where a guy buys MSC Ferrari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXanWA1U7aE

But then he did this to it

freestyla · 21-07-2012 12:10pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Even if I was rich enough to own one I think I'd be put off by the fact if you don't start it the right way you'll completely destroy the engine. Would it even be possible to get parts for them?

Jordan 191 wrote: »

If something went wrong with the engine, I think you would be looking at savage repair bills.

Yeah it's not enough only to own a rocket to go fast

Run and maintain costs of your own road legal car for a single track day hits some hundreds of euros.. have a supercar it goes up to few grands.. uumm F1 car??

You need to have access into some already established workshops/tuners/racing teams, and find some sponsors also unless you are rich already or have rich daddy.

freestyla · 21-07-2012 12:20pm

Kxiii wrote: »

Fifth gear done a segment on it a few years ago where a guy buys MSC Ferrari

But then he did this to it

I dont understand the photo - how you totally wreck monocock but not legs

Myrddin · 21-07-2012 1:06pm

freestyla wrote: »

I dont understand the photo - how you totally wreck monocock but not legs

You can clearly see his legs are padded with wads & wads of money...scientifically proven to be stronger than carbon fibre

22-07-2012 5:38am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-457437/Prang-bus-costs-Ferrari-driver-300-000.html

zinzan · 22-07-2012 7:13am

Much more practical:

For the school run...

In action

hexosan · 27-05-2013 4:42pm

Anyone know where you could buy a nose cone or the rear wing of an F1 car and what sort of money would you be talking.

Kxiii · 27-05-2013 5:15pm

hexosan wrote: »

Anyone know where you could buy a nose cone or the rear wing of an F1 car and what sort of money would you be talking.

Is that you Romain are Lotus making you pay for damages now?? :pac:

Heres a link to a site that does half scale replica Nosecones

And here's a Rear Wing

Jordan 199 · 16-10-2013 2:54pm

I want! I want!

shamwari · 17-10-2013 11:09pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I want! I want!

Lovely car. I remember being on holiday in Spain and one of those blew up at a Grand Prix we were watching at the time (could have been Monza). A guy from Armagh remarked that Peugeot should stick a 1.9TD engine into the Jordan; it wouldn't be any slower and wouldn't have blown up....:(

Jordan 199 · 18-10-2013 12:05am

shamwari wrote: »

Lovely car. I remember being on holiday in Spain and one of those blew up at a Grand Prix we were watching at the time (could have been Monza). A guy from Armagh remarked that Peugeot should stick a 1.9TD engine into the Jordan; it wouldn't be any slower and wouldn't have blown up....:(

The nicest thing about the Jordan 195 that's for sale is that it comes with the Peugeot V10.

Yeah, it was the motor in the back of Irvine's Jordan at Monza that packed up. He was running in 6th when it happened.

It was much worse for Rubens at Hungary though. Rubens was running third on the last lap, and on the last corner of the last lap, the Peugeot motor packed up and Rubens coasted across the start/finish line and finished 7th

mickdw · 18-10-2013 7:48pm

Very very unusual to see an ex F1 with original power unit. I thought that even cars from that era would be far too complicated to run with a genuine F1 engine without direct manufacturer support.

Jordan 199 · 20-10-2013 7:25pm

I wouldn't say no.

Buy F1 car

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