Nine-year-old girl who gives birth to baby is then sterilized by doctors

davet82 · 08-02-2013 3:23pm #1

The nine-year-old girl who gave birth in Mexico will never have another child after she was sterilized by the doctors who delivered her baby - against her family's wishes, it was revealed today.

The youngster was given the procedure following the shock delivery without the consent of her own mother.

She has now reported the Zoquipan Hospital in Guadalajara to the local human rights commission which is investigating.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275182/EXCLUSIVE-Nine-year-old-girl-gave-birth-Mexico-child-doctors-sterilize-her-mothers-wishes.html#axzz2KJi6DhgQ

What an awful story...

Anyone have any link to why the doctors done this?

smash · 08-02-2013 3:24pm

There is so much wrong with that story

My name is URL · 08-02-2013 3:34pm

Surely the girl should have been taken into care. Her mother is a sex worker and refuses to cooperate with police regarding the rape of her daughter. I don't know how those things work in Mexico though, so perhaps doctors felt it was the least worse option for her.

davet82 · 08-02-2013 3:37pm

My name is URL wrote: »

so perhaps doctors felt it was the least worse option for her.

if thats true its so depressing in so many different ways

seamus · 08-02-2013 3:41pm

Every line in that story is just a complete mind****. I read it yesterday and thought it was bad enough, but holy moses, a mother who doesn't realise underage sex is a crime (which presumes she was aware the kid was having sex) and a string of male relatives who may have had sex with her?

OK, it's the mail, so probably 50% of that is made up, but it's fairly horrific.

I would be skeptical that the hospital sterilised her for no good reason. There are rare cases when delivering a C-section birth that it is necessary to perform a hysterectomy to save the mother. If they did this, then I presume it's because her young age presented a serious complication to the procedure which left them no choice. I doubt the surgeon just decided to sterilise her on a whim.

My name is URL · 08-02-2013 3:44pm

davet82 wrote: »

if thats true its so depressing in so many different ways

Well I'm only making assumptions about it. I'd be inclined to trust the doctors rather than the mother in this case though. But yeah, it's pretty depressing any way you look at it.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-02-2013 5:54pm

didn't read the story

but any chance they just used clips on the fallopian tubes ?
in which case there is some chance of undoing it later on

Sh1tbag OToole · 09-02-2013 5:56pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

didn't read the story

but any chance they just used clips on the fallopian tubes ?
in which case there is some chance of undoing it later on

Jubilee clips. She can undo them herself

The Big Red Button · 09-02-2013 6:31pm

That poor child.

In this case, the media attention can only be a good thing - hopefully someone will be able to take her and the baby out of that awful environment.

Paddy Cow · 09-02-2013 6:37pm

Such a shocking story. I'm surprised she was allowed to go home with her mother. She was eight years old when she got pregnant. That means she was raped, at least once, probably more. What sort of life does the poor girl have ahead of her? Apparently she doesn't go to school and spends all day doing housework, while being someone's play thing

Stheno · 09-02-2013 6:44pm

The whole situation is just shocking. Poor child.

madmammy · 09-02-2013 8:08pm

my eldest child is 8 now and i couldn't imagine how anyone would think it was ok for their 9yr old child to have a baby
the poor thing is just there as a slave by the sounds of it and now she'll have more to deal with...scary thing is there was another story of a 12yr old that had twins in mexico the same day
children should be aloud to be children its too short as it is
just because of some sicko's

**Vai** · 09-02-2013 8:26pm

Best option would have been to sterilize her mother before the poor child was brought into a sh1tty home.

09-02-2013 8:53pm

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Jubilee clips. She can undo them herself

Would you stop. That's a little girl who's apparently been repeated raped and put through a childbirth her little body isn't built for, then sterilised. How you can make a joke about it is beyond me.

MagicSean · 09-02-2013 9:02pm

Maybe they did it so that she would not have to go throught the trauma of being pregnant and giving birth at such a young age again. From the sounds of it she is just being given back to her rapist so they could have thought they were doing her a small mercy. It might sound archaic to us but you're talking about a country that is incredibly violent, corrupt and backward.

Morag · 09-02-2013 10:33pm

seamus wrote: »

I doubt the surgeon just decided to sterilise her on a whim.

Really?

Cos Michael Neary did that to Irish women here while working in Our Ladies of Lourdes in Drogheada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Neary_%28surgeon%29

Michael Neary's actions caused national outrage, shock and even horror. The idea that a well-known and liked (as he was at the time) consultant obstetrician could needlessly remove women's wombs, and get away with it for so long, was shocking in itself, but the delay in discovery and investigation, and numerous other incidents that emerged following the publication of the Lourdes Inquiry, created a media storm and resulted in pages of coverage in newspapers. The women harmed by Dr. Neary came forward and spoke of their distress and how they still wonder why he did it. Represented by the group Patient Focus, they may receive compensation from the State for what happened to them, a matter that is being discussed in the Department of Health.

Humans eh! · 09-02-2013 11:01pm

Candie wrote: »

Would you stop. That's a little girl who's apparently been repeated raped and put through a childbirth her little body isn't built for, then sterilised. How you can make a joke about it is beyond me.

There's a clue in his username.

This is the wrong forum for this topic.
Ask a mod to move it.

languagenerd · 10-02-2013 2:24pm

Horrible, horrible story. Can't believe they let her go back home - she should be taken into care, along with the baby. What hope have they got back there?!

Just about the "sterilisation" thing, the Spanish newspapers are saying she got "un implante subdérmico" which I think is the contraceptive implant that women here get in their arms. It's just contraception, and can be removed, so I don't think she's permanently infertile.

Obviously it's hard to tell which paper has it right though, it's not like all the details are going to be clear.

seamus · 10-02-2013 4:02pm

Morag wrote: »

Really?

Cos Michael Neary did that to Irish women here while working in Our Ladies of Lourdes in Drogheada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Neary_%28surgeon%29

Without defending Neary, I wouldn't say he did it on a whim. Dr. Neary was mentally unstable and wrongly believed that he was doing what was necessary to save these women's lives. I don't think he ever just said, "Ah sure let's just do a hysterectomy while we're here."

space_man · 10-02-2013 5:00pm

i disagree.
there are large tracts of inner-city Dublin where sterilization would greatly improve the gene-pool.
of course the bleeding hearts would have a field day, but from a societal point of view i see nothing wrong with sterilizing kids from certain dysfunctional backgrounds.

The Dagda · 10-02-2013 5:08pm

space_man wrote: »

i disagree.
there are large tracts of inner-city Dublin where sterilization would greatly improve the gene-pool.
of course the bleeding hearts would have a field day, but from a societal point of view i see nothing wrong with sterilizing kids from certain dysfunctional backgrounds.

If you honestly believe this sh1te I really hope you don't have kids and pass on your bigoted views.

My name is URL · 10-02-2013 5:08pm

space_man wrote: »

i disagree.
there are large tracts of inner-city Dublin where sterilization would greatly improve the gene-pool.
of course the bleeding hearts would have a field day, but from a societal point of view i see nothing wrong with sterilizing kids from certain dysfunctional backgrounds.

You'd have to wonder how functional the parents of a person holding such opinions were.

DazMarz · 10-02-2013 5:10pm

Heinrich Himmler and Josef Goebbels reincarnated... Jesus.

space_man · 10-02-2013 5:14pm

The Dagda wrote: »

If you honestly believe this sh1te I really hope you don't have kids and pass on your bigoted views.

FYI
i have 4 children, all attending private schooling and all will hopefully attend 3rd level.

Turtyturd · 10-02-2013 5:21pm

space_man wrote: »

FYI
i have 4 children, all attending private schooling and all will hopefully attend 3rd level.

Hopefully they marry each other to maintain the purity.

space_man · 10-02-2013 5:23pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hopefully they marry each other to maintain the purity.

is that what your mum said to your uncle 'er i mean dad? LOL:D

brummytom · 10-02-2013 5:47pm

space_man wrote: »

FYI
i have 4 children, all attending private schooling and all will hopefully attend 3rd level.

Really? I'd never have guessed you were a wannabe-upperclass snob until that post.

Anyone who would support sterilization of a group of people based purely on the start they've been given in life is either an disgusting bigot, or mentally unstable.

Bad Santa · 10-02-2013 5:53pm

space_man wrote: »

from a societal point of view i see nothing wrong with sterilizing kids from certain dysfunctional backgrounds.

Intergalactic Christ.

The Dagda · 10-02-2013 6:05pm

space_man wrote: »

FYI
i have 4 children, all attending private schooling and all will hopefully attend 3rd level.

Hopefully all the education and time away from you will dilute your ignorant delusions out of them.

token101 · 10-02-2013 6:18pm

MagicSean wrote: »

It might sound archaic to us but you're talking about a country that is incredibly violent, corrupt and backward.

Didn't an Irish hospital leave a woman to die less than six months ago after she pleaded for an abortion?

space_man · 10-02-2013 6:47pm

The Dagda wrote: »

Hopefully all the education and time away from you will dilute your ignorant delusions out of them.

doubtless they'll formulate their own opinions in time. (some are already quite opinionated i'll have you know!)

that said there are families who by the very act of procreation diminish and cheapen society. one only has to take a casual stroll down our capital's main thoroughfare to be able to identify them. apart from anything else it will save the exchequer a small fortune on child benefits, dole payments, medical cards, free legal aid, prisons etc.

Branch Meeting · 10-02-2013 6:55pm

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Jubilee clips. She can undo them herself

Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?

space_man · 10-02-2013 7:08pm

Branch Meeting wrote: »

Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?

i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.

10-02-2013 7:29pm

space_man wrote: »

i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.

Are you saying it's a good thing that an abused nine-year-old rape victim is sterilised, because it's likely any futher children she might have may depend at some point on welfare payments?

Racist isn't the word for that. Eugenics is.

space_man · 10-02-2013 7:34pm

Candie wrote: »

Are you saying it's a good thing that an abused nine-year-old rape victim is sterilised, because it's likely any futher children she might have may depend at some point on welfare payments?

Racist isn't the word for that. Eugenics is.

well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

The Dagda · 10-02-2013 7:39pm

space_man wrote: »

doubtless they'll formulate their own opinions in time. (some are already quite opinionated i'll have you know!)

that said there are families who by the very act of procreation diminish and cheapen society. one only has to take a casual stroll down our capital's main thoroughfare to be able to identify them. apart from anything else it will save the exchequer a small fortune on child benefits, dole payments, medical cards, free legal aid, prisons etc.

You are nothing more than an ignorant bigoted snob. People like you are a greater risk to Ireland, and the human race in general, than anyone you look down your uninformed nose at. Nothing cheapens society more than someone valuing another person's life in monetary terms. Nevermind the arrogance of thinking you're better/more worthy than anyone else.

Branch Meeting · 10-02-2013 7:40pm

space_man wrote: »

well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

Perhaps you can explain to us all what you offer ?

The Dagda · 10-02-2013 7:47pm

space_man wrote: »

well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

You have no idea why the doctor did what he did, so stop spouting sh1t. And who are you to judge whether someone contributes positively, or otherwise, to society?!

MagicSean · 10-02-2013 7:54pm

token101 wrote: »

Didn't an Irish hospital leave a woman to die less than six months ago after she pleaded for an abortion?

Not that I am aware of.

Sh1tbag OToole · 10-02-2013 8:07pm

Branch Meeting wrote: »

Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?

space_man wrote: »

i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.

Might as well salvage a few laughs from this unfortunate happening

Think_then_talk · 10-02-2013 8:09pm

Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
Please God she gets the help she needs.
http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

The Bishop Basher · 10-02-2013 8:12pm

Shameful.

space_man · 10-02-2013 8:12pm

Think_then_talk wrote: »

Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
Please God she gets the help she needs.
http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

Ah! yes The DailyMail.:rolleyes:

Sh1tbag OToole · 10-02-2013 8:14pm

Think_then_talk wrote: »

Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
Please God she gets the help she needs.
http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

A far cry from the shocking "sterilized by doctors" headline

Karen23 · 10-02-2013 8:17pm

My little girl turned 9 last week , this story is heartbreaking

10-02-2013 8:19pm

Why is journalism so crappy these days? Surely those involved should have even a modicum of pride in their profession?. It used to be about accuracy and reporting the truth. Now its only about generating sensational headlines, and the truth be damned.

10-02-2013 9:11pm

space_man wrote: »

there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

And you may very well be one of them yourself.

space_man · 10-02-2013 9:13pm

Candie wrote: »

And you may very well be one of them yourself.

and you may be one yourself. alas we may never know.;)

languagenerd · 11-02-2013 12:11am

Think_then_talk wrote: »

Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
Please God she gets the help she needs.
http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

That's what the Spanish newspapers were saying all along. What are the Daily Mail at?! :mad:

Capt'n Midnight · 11-02-2013 12:50am

Deleted User wrote: »

Why is journalism so crappy these days? Surely those involved should have even a modicum of pride in their profession?. It used to be about accuracy and reporting the truth. Now its only about generating sensational headlines, and the truth be damned.

there have always been hacks

The NUJ let Dunphy in

or the Penny Dreadfuls

it's just that now there is less alternative to poor journalism in print

most of the good stuff's on the interweb now

davet82 · 11-02-2013 11:22am

Who ever wrote that article should shot sacked, i knew it was suspect when there was no detail what so ever on the steralization allegedly preform

Nine-year-old girl who gives birth to baby is then sterilized by doctors

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