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Is the used car market fecked?

  • 27-03-2012 1:52am
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    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭


    The reason I ask is because I have had my "07 VW Passat" on sale on the various used car websites for over one full year now. In that time I have a mere one enquiry and that was a fraudulent one.
    Is anyone else struggling to sell their car?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Is it dearer than a lot of other 07 Passats for sale?


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭the great purveyor of mediocrity


    I would say roughly, that 90% are more expensive and 10% are cheaper. There are a huge amount of Passats for sale in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Link to the ad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Over a year without selling it?? Either your not bothered about selling it, your advert or pictures are terrible or you have an unrealistic asking price.

    I would always take the hit with a car sale rather than messing about, better to asked a couple of hundred less than other examples and get it sold within a week or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,403 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Gonna agree with Senna, maybe the pictures arent the best and thats hampering your chances.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    The reason I ask is because I have had my "07 VW Passat" on sale on the various used car websites for over one full year now. In that time I have a mere one enquiry and that was a fraudulent one.
    Is anyone else struggling to sell their car?
    If your car is advertised with decent description (mentioned NCT, tax, last service, etc.), presented with plenty of good, clear photos (interior, exterior, boot, etc.) and is priced accordingly to the market value and its condition, it will sell within a month, no problem.
    If you are asking too much for your car or your ad is not up to scratch, the ad will be sitting there for ages.
    As suggested, please post a link to the ad, so it can be discussed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    For the use car market being fecked i wouldnt say so.

    i'd say its better than new car market

    gonna agree with others when they say theres something about your advert or it cost too much etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭the great purveyor of mediocrity


    I'll take all those comments on board lads. Sounds like the market is alive and kicking and perhaps the issue is with my selling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭the great purveyor of mediocrity




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I'm only seeing one picture. It would help to have more and especially the interior.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Ok, I aint a car person but if i was looking at this i would go straight by it because of the picture. The shine on the car gives the impression there is dents on it. Thats my 2 cents.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    over priced.................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭jayok


    Ok, some suggestions:

    1. More photos. Realistically, there's no impression of the car from a single photo. You need shots of all sides, the inside, etc.

    2. Give more specific detail about the car's history. Ok, you've a FSH. Was the DMF done, it it driving brilliantly, etc.

    3. This is a 5 year old car with 110K miles. In Irish's terms this is considered high. €8,500 *seems* a little high to me and to be honest the mileage is probably putting people off at that price. Adjust accordingly

    4. Website. For me CBG is the lowest in my search ranking. I suggest you use donedeal.ie, carzone.ie (ok, ok and adverts.ie)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    CBG's not the place to be selling your car, I don't know anyone who actually uses it. Try the likes of DoneDeal, Adverts, (Gumtree's picking up in popularity these days), or even Carzone as a paid last resort.

    You need a lot more photos than just the side. Particularly the interior, no one seems to take interior photos anymore.

    Lastly leave out things like 'abs, power steering, electric windows'. You might as well say things like Carpet, Steering Wheel. Every car has them. Instead focus on the condition of the car, how it's been maintained, give a narrative that shows you cared for the car. Saying 'high performance' would say that you drove it like you stole it everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭bren2002


    Very high milage and no tax paid. No buyer is going to pay a years tax retrospectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    bren2002 wrote: »
    Very high milage and no tax paid. No buyer is going to pay a years tax retrospectively.

    They won't have to, they only pay for Tax from the date of purchase.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    bren2002 wrote: »
    Very high milage and no tax paid. No buyer is going to pay a years tax retrospectively.

    good christ..........:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Two things:

    As said, distinct lack of inside photos, and photos of different sides. Was the other side crashed? Dented? Scratched? Why no pictures?

    Secondly, the price. It's not too high, but it is a bit high when you consider there's no garage warranty with it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Owen wrote: »
    ............. Saying 'high performance' would say that you drove it like you stole it everywhere.

    ...... and when the car in question is a 1.9 diesel Passat it's a ludicrous claim
    MidlandsM wrote: »
    good christ..........:rolleyes:

    Indeed, lol :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    OP, here's the craic......a lot of what has been rightly stated by my peers here who know the craic too........

    1. wrong internet site to sell a car..........DONEDEAL is yer man, mass audience, and its cheap, and used correctly, you can drive good traffic to your car.

    2. Poor ad ....more pics needed from all angles, inside & outside, the boot, the engine bay, the works

    3. Roll some video.......it works wonders for me...my phone hops when i do video ads, takes time but really worth it.

    4. sort of your asking price.....anyone car purchase a similar car with similar miles and condition and miles for under 7k private.........

    5. be honest, friendly and credible when you get a call........and recommend they come for a test drive.

    the good news is good passat tdi's always sell, people like them, they're easy on diesel and sell every day of the week.
    Hope this helps and get to it if you are serious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭shawnee


    Yes I suppose the market is a bit fecked. But then again if you are buying another the prices have also dropped dramatically. Car is 07 and I believe the price should be in the region of 7k. Improve the ad and if you really want to sell it at that price you will. No point in thinking what it should be worth and what it used to be worth , if you want to change then put a really stand out ad and a decent price and best of luck , its a decent car :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    shawnee wrote: »
    Yes I suppose the market is a bit fecked.

    I have to disagree, I find the market quite boyant.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    RoverJames wrote: »
    ...... and when the car in question is a 1.9 diesel Passat it's a ludicrous claim
    Relative to your average asthmatic Irish car it probably is high performance. Maybe mention the turbo though, unless it's shagged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    James. wrote: »
    why did you only post 1 picture ?

    did you really think that was the best idea ?
    OP's looking for help, not grief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Wolverine_1999


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    2. Poor ad ....more pics needed from all angles, inside & outside, the boot, the engine bay, the works

    This drives me daft, nobody is going to drive for an hour or two to see a car if there are no good quality pictures of all angles of the car. I would consider these sellers timewasters!

    Highlight ANY bad points on the car also, just so the buyer is aware before they view it as this will be scrutinised if found on inspection! This could work in your favour in the end as the buyer will consider you an honest seller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭shawnee


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I have to disagree, I find the market quite boyant.:D

    Really depends what you are buying or selling . There seems to be a major dislike to anything with tax bracket over 1600 cc. Great value to be had in that area but slow to sell , that's my experience :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,984 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If I was looking to buy a 2nd hand car one of the main requirements would be mileage as low as possible.

    I wouldn't touch any car with over 80k on the clock to be honest, hence I'd shut your advert down as soon as I seen that. Maybe others are like me?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Doesn't say "TDI" on the ad. Many would use that as a basis for a search.


  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭trixyben


    You really need to get more images of the car from all the angles and the interior, if I was looking for a passat and came across your add id be thinking if you cant be bothered to take decent images i cant be bothered looking at the add


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  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭trixyben


    You really need to get more images of the car from all the angles and the interior, if I was looking for a passat and came across your add id be thinking if you cant be bothered to take decent images i cant be bothered looking at the add


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Any feedback that you see with my add (in signature) before I put it on donedeal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2




    You'd be doing well to sell that at 5.5k - The type of person that'd want to buy that car simply wouldnt have 8.5k


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    You'd be doing well to sell that at 5.5k - The type of person that'd want to buy that car simply wouldnt have 8.5k

    well, thats wrong, €6995 is the price point for that car selling private.
    5.5k is incorrect.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Any feedback that you see with my add (in signature) before I put it on donedeal?

    post a link please...i've sigs turn off.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    You'd be doing well to sell that at 5.5k - The type of person that'd want to buy that car simply wouldnt have 8.5k

    What do you mean by the type of person that would want to buy the car? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    well, thats wrong, €6995 is the price point for that car selling private.
    5.5k is incorrect.

    The real world is slightly different to whatever website you got that 'price point' off.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Any car will sell quickly at the right price. If it's been more than a few weeks and you've had no interest, it's overpriced. It's only going to continue to depreciate, so take the first decent offer you get, as it will never be worth any more in a years time etc.

    Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. Drop the price low enough and you can sell anything*. If a car is in good condition and there is nothing wrong with it, you should be able to find a buyer quickly enough at the right price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    RoverJames wrote: »
    What do you mean by the type of person that would want to buy the car? :confused:


    Nothing malicious - It's a car built for comfort and power but at a budget - Typical owner for this car (being 5 years old) is a young man who's got his first steps into the corporate ladder. New job not that new of a car, unless this guy lives at home 8.5k is a lot of money. If he doesnt 8.5k still isnt that appealing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The real world is slightly different to whatever website you got that 'price point' off.

    ohhh sorry, I only do this for a livin' - but I bow down to your comprehensive keyboard knowledge in this complex automotive pricing arena.

    Please accept my humplest apologies.........




    LOL :D:D:D


    ps...........you talk some bollox....! LOL


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    post a link please...i've sigs turn off.
    http://www.adverts.ie/1245562


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Nothing malicious - It's a car built for comfort and power but at a budget - Typical owner for this car (being 5 years old) is a young man who's got his first steps into the corporate ladder. New job not that new of a car, unless this guy lives at home 8.5k is a lot of money. If he doesnt 8.5k still isnt that appealing.

    I would have thought most buyers of them would have a sprog or two and be married, commuting a bit to work etc etc etc. Can't see a young dude being overly keen on one. The young suited knob would go A4 me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭lifer_sean


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    You'd be doing well to sell that at 5.5k - The type of person that'd want to buy that car simply wouldnt have 8.5k

    Nonesense. That car is worth a lot more than 5500, unless there is a hidden problem (unlikely, as the seller seems fairly up-front here).

    The son of a local is looking for a Passat at the minute, and is being asked 6500-7000 for 06-07 petrols ... now that's too much. I could sell him something but I can't find a 06/07 passat from my trade contacts.

    I would hae thought that OP's car would sell easily at 6995. Personally I'd advertise it at 7700 for a week or two, trying to get 7000, and if unsuccessful I'd drop to 7300.

    Per other comments, done deal and more pics is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    It might well not be worth even 7 considering the high miles, old tax system issue, being 1.9 rather than 2.0, it doesnt have much going for it including the fact that it is black and therefore only a limited number of people would be interested anyway.
    I got a late 08 passat 2l 140bhp common rail with 75000 miles for 10k in early Jan, it will be sold next Jan with 85000 on the clock for around 8 hopefully and thats in silver which appeals widely.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Senna wrote: »
    Over a year without selling it?? Either your not bothered about selling it, your advert or pictures are terrible or you have an unrealistic asking price.

    I would always take the hit with a car sale rather than messing about, better to asked a couple of hundred less than other examples and get it sold within a week or two.


    cars can sell, I sold a mondeo literally 2 hours after getting it a good professional wash...

    and reducing the price it has to be said, this is in the midlands uk where cars are notorious to sell.. like at all


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube




    rubbish add

    buyers want to see interior pics, pics of the engine bay, pics of keys on the passenger seat surrounded by service logs and manuals in a wallet.

    then it will sell.


    i would give that add about 20 seconds of my time and move on..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    NIMAN wrote: »
    If I was looking to buy a 2nd hand car one of the main requirements would be mileage as low as possible.

    I wouldn't touch any car with over 80k on the clock to be honest, hence I'd shut your advert down as soon as I seen that. Maybe others are like me?

    I'm sure there are plenty. But they would be wrong to make a decision based on mileage. A high mileage car may have been drive all it's life on a motorway causing minimal wear and tear while a low mileage example could have been hammered over every speed bump and pothole around town. It's all about condition and service history for me.

    To the owner of the Passat, your description is misleading and mentioning equipment that your car most likely does not have is not a good idea. I have never seen a baseline B6 Passat with climate control, heated seats or "all electrics".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Why are some people here going on about high mileage, typical Irish attitude where the mind set is that anything with 100k miles or more is a ticking timebomb. Condition and service history is more important than what the odometer reads. It's a 5 year old diesel car which has covered just over 20k miles a year. The laughable thing here is that if the mileage was shaved on that car, the same few people here would probably say it is a great buy. Mileage is not an accurate indication of wear or use.

    Now back on topic. OP, as others have said, the site you have it on is terrible with little or no traffic. The one photo is not enough to grap a buyer's attention, one photo gives the impression the seller has no interest. Take better photos (great opportunity with the good weather at the moment). Half the battle is getting someone to come view the car and a well presented advert needs to stand out from many others. Lastly the price is high for it's age, you will need to adjust it accordingly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭September1


    Owen wrote: »
    They won't have to, they only pay for Tax from the date of purchase.

    It doesn't matter what is the law - if some buyers think they have to pay old tax, you lose them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    September1 wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what is the law - if some buyers think they have to pay old tax, you lose them.
    I don't know ANYONE who has or does think this


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