Most Overrated film?

mikemac · 16-03-2009 11:25pm

seanybiker wrote: »

godfather

Hang your head in shame seanybiker!
Absolute classic

But your choice I suppose and gotta respect that

Caliden · 16-03-2009 11:33pm

shawshank redemption
apocalypse now
deer hunter
superbad

I guess I should explain myself so I dont have a mob of people outside my house looking for my blood.

Shawshank just didnt seem that special. The storyline was decent with a nice little twist at the end but thats about it. Character development was good but nothing much happened in the movie. He went to prison, got raped, made friends with a black guy, escaped and made some money. A bit of a let down after all the talk I heard from friends. Everyone seems to list it in their top 10 movies just because every other person does.

Apocalypse Now was more of the same. Not alot happened. Some memorable lines but I dont know how anyone can say Brando was brilliant in it. Just didnt impress me at all and didnt see what all the fuss was about. Compare it to a movie like 'The Shining'. Fantastic music score, developing storyline with some spine-chilling moments coupled with jack nicholson and his crazy eyebrows.

Deer Hunter just didnt make any sense at all. At a wedding, then at war, then russian roulette. It was just all over the place. No structure to story development and didnt even show walken's decent into madness. I watched it in anticipation of a fantastic movie but was bored after 40 minutes. Watched it to the end just to get it over with and strike it off my list.

Superbad. What can I say except that I spent more time looking around seeing if anyone else found what just happened funny than actually laughing myself. I just dont find those kids funny. I tried to find them funny but they just aren't.
Seth Rogan is the same but I do love Paul Rudd and Jason Segal, too bad they have to associate with idiots

krudler · 17-03-2009 12:06am

Juno- one of the worst films of the last ten years, has a script that sounds like it was written by Ned Flanders, she gets up the diddly-duff by her bff then has to decide whether to keepity keep the sproglet, plus Juno herself is one of the most obnoxious characters ever put on film, awful movie

Mal-Adjusted · 17-03-2009 1:20am

pixelburp wrote: »

I don't think many would argue The Departed wasn't Scorsese's best work, but having been snubbed many times before by the Academy, I think his Oscar for Departed was a deliberate, belated apology by The Man(tm)

+1 they gave it to Scorsese because he deserved it for past works, not necessarily this remake of a (better) Korean flick.

bnt · 17-03-2009 2:05am

Well, I have to mention the one I singled out in the "genres you dislike" thread: Breaking The Waves. It has the deliberate amateurism of Dogme, and a story that manages to be horrific without the vicarious thrills of Horror.

brendansmith · 17-03-2009 2:07am

Fear and loathing in las vegas.

Made famous by wanna-be-hashheads!

Sleepy · 17-03-2009 3:07am

Over-rated but still like 'em:

The Shawshank Redemption
Goodfellas
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Reservoir Dogs

How in the hell are these 'classics':

Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill and any of the rest of Tarantino's movies. The guy can choose good tunes, that qualifies him to be a DJ, not a director :P
The Shining - I've tried to sit through it three times. Never made it.

shrapnel222 · 17-03-2009 10:34am

the dark knight. what a pile of dung

grames_bond · 17-03-2009 10:40am

Sleepy wrote: »

Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill and any of the rest of Tarantino's movies. The guy can choose good tunes, that qualifies him to be a DJ, not a director :P
The Shining - I've tried to sit through it three times. Never made it.

pulp ficition is one of the best movies ever! superbly done, great story, brilliantly directed and many people have credited it as the movie that revolutionised the way cinema looks at dialogue.....so that's how it is a classic!

kill bill has not been recognised as a classic by anyone i dont think, and you do realise you also included "any of the rest of tarantinos movies" but you still have reservoir dogs in your "still like em" list!

leggo · 17-03-2009 11:49am

Dark Knight
DARK KNIGHT
DARK KNIGHT

Heath Ledger was amazing...but it was three movies in one. Batman fanboys will rave "That's what's amazing about it!" No. No. It was just long. Too long. I got up to leave three times during the movie. Only to realise that OH NO there's another twist. Fan-blooody-tastic!

If they'd have made 2-3 movies and dragged out the different plots in the script they'd all have been classics. But it's just TOO much.

Just don't tell the missus I said that...:p

Aidric · 17-03-2009 11:57am

Gangs of New York
There Will Be Blood

stateofflux · 17-03-2009 12:08pm

Woden wrote: »

Blade Runner. Watched it straight after reading the book. What a let down.

probably because you watched it straight after reading the book....it is a very good film....i don't know if it was that overrated at the time....in fact it was a commercial and critical flop...only gaining acceptance through vhs based cult following...same as 'the thing'

pipeliner · 17-03-2009 12:22pm

all of the peter jackson movies. Well the lord of the rings ones and king kong. I admit i bought into the hype on release, but i watched king kong again and thought it was rubbish. I dont have a spare 400 hours so dont ask me to watch the Lotr trilogy again.

asdasd · 17-03-2009 12:30pm

Dark Knight
DARK KNIGHT
DARK KNIGHT

Eventually the reaction against Dark Knight will be so severe that it will end up in the most underrated film threads.

"Everybody said it was crap, but I think it is great"

irish_bob · 17-03-2009 3:17pm

pipeliner wrote: »

all of the peter jackson movies. Well the lord of the rings ones and king kong. I admit i bought into the hype on release, but i watched king kong again and thought it was rubbish. I dont have a spare 400 hours so dont ask me to watch the Lotr trilogy again.

love all the movies above , think king kong 2005 is incredibly under rated

TheDoc · 18-03-2009 5:06pm

Pretty much any oscar film in memory for me

No country for old men, slumdog etc.

Also Anchorman, really didn't find it funny what so ever.

ziedth · 18-03-2009 5:09pm

I thought Slumdog was overrated too,

Not that I thought it was a bad film by any means I just don't think it warrants the blinding success that it has had.

asdasd · 18-03-2009 5:20pm

Also Anchorman

Yes! Absolutely!!!

purple_hatstand · 18-03-2009 5:29pm

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

Pretty much any oscar film in memory for me

No country for old men, slumdog etc.

Also Anchorman, really didn't find it funny what so ever.

Lots of people seem to not like NCFOM which I can understand (I love it but I understand) but to use this to denounce "Pretty much any Oscar film in memory" is a bit much.

I'm not a huge fan of the Academy but, in spite of themselves and just by the law of averages, they have to get it right sometimes.

In my lifetime, Best Picture Oscars have been awarded to:

'Midnight Cowboy'
'The French Connection'
'The Godfather'
'The Sting'
'The Godfather Part II'
'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest'
'Annie Hall'
'The Deer Hunter'
'Ghandi'
'Amadeus'
'Rain Man'
'The Silence Of The Lambs'
'Unforgiven'
'Schindler's List'
'The English Patient'
'American Beauty'
'Gladiator'
'Million Dollar Baby'

.......amongst many others. If you don't like ANY of these films or ANY of the others nominated for or given the same award, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder etc.......

Vamoose Killers · 18-03-2009 5:34pm

Hmmm, the last three look a tad out of place there.

purple_hatstand · 18-03-2009 5:51pm

Vamoose Killers wrote: »

Hmmm, the last three look a tad out of place there.

I would argue that 'American Beauty' and 'Million Dollar Baby' have similar qualities in terms of characterisation, emotional depth, dramatic tension and narrative arc (as well as containing exceptional performances on both sides of the camera) to many of the other films on the list. 'Gladiator' I like for the sheer power of Crowe's performance and for Scott's direction.

These are opinions, of course......but I believe the central point I was making is a valid one.

foxyboxer · 18-03-2009 6:13pm

Read an interview with Matt Damon during the week where he suggested that the Academy Awards should be presented 10 years after the fact. i.e. that the Oscars this year would have been for the Movies released during 1998. This would certainly eliminate the aggressive lobbying which have made the Oscars in recent years unwatchable (i.e. A Beautiful Mind, Chicago, Titanic, Crash etc). Also with the benefit of hindsight, the films of that year can be appreciated in greater detail. Certainly, an interesting idea.

Looking at the nominees at the time, I would say that Shakespeare in Love should not have won best picture, nor Gwyneth Paltrow for Best Actress or Roberto Benigni for Best Actor. The Truman Show would have definitely been a stronger contender with hindsight. Cate Blanchett would be Best Actress, Ian McKellan as Best Actor and Kathy Bates supporting actress.

[edit] Best Motion Picture Of The Year
Shakespeare in Love
Elizabeth
Life Is Beautiful
Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line

[edit] Achievement in Directing
Steven Spielberg - Saving Private Ryan
Roberto Benigni - Life Is Beautiful
John Madden - Shakespeare in Love
Terrence Malick - The Thin Red Line
Peter Weir - The Truman Show

[edit] Best Performance By An Actor In A Leading Role
Roberto Benigni - Life Is Beautiful
Tom Hanks - Saving Private Ryan
Ian McKellen - Gods and Monsters
Nick Nolte - Affliction
Edward Norton - American History X

[edit] Best Performance by An Actress In A Leading Role
Gwyneth Paltrow - Shakespeare in Love
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth
Fernanda Montenegro - Central Station
Meryl Streep - One True Thing
Emily Watson - Hilary and Jackie

[edit] Best Performance By An Actor In A Supporting Role
James Coburn - Affliction
Robert Duvall - A Civil Action
Ed Harris - The Truman Show
Geoffrey Rush - Shakespeare in Love
Billy Bob Thornton - A Simple Plan

[edit] Best Performance By An Actress In A Supporting Role
Judi Dench - Shakespeare in Love
Kathy Bates - Primary Colors
Brenda Blethyn - Little Voice
Rachel Griffiths - Hilary and Jackie
Lynn Redgrave - Gods and Monsters

ziedth · 18-03-2009 6:35pm

foxyboxer wrote: »

Read an interview with Matt Damon during the week where he suggested that the Academy Awards should be presented 10 years after the fact. i.e. that the Oscars this year would have been for the Movies released during 1998. This would certainly eliminate the aggressive lobbying which have made the Oscars in recent years unwatchable (i.e. A Beautiful Mind, Chicago, Titanic, Crash etc). Also with the benefit of hindsight, the films of that year can be appreciated in greater detail. Certainly, an interesting idea.

Looking at the nominees at the time, I would say that Shakespeare in Love should not have won best picture, nor Gwyneth Paltrow for Best Actress or Roberto Benigni for Best Actor. The Truman Show would have definitely been a stronger contender with hindsight. Cate Blanchett would be Best Actress, Ian McKellan as Best Actor and Kathy Bates supporting actress.

[edit] Best Motion Picture Of The Year
Shakespeare in Love
Elizabeth
Life Is Beautiful
Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line

[edit] Achievement in Directing
Steven Spielberg - Saving Private Ryan
Roberto Benigni - Life Is Beautiful
John Madden - Shakespeare in Love
Terrence Malick - The Thin Red Line
Peter Weir - The Truman Show

[edit] Best Performance By An Actor In A Leading Role
Roberto Benigni - Life Is Beautiful
Tom Hanks - Saving Private Ryan
Ian McKellen - Gods and Monsters
Nick Nolte - Affliction
Edward Norton - American History X

[edit] Best Performance by An Actress In A Leading Role
Gwyneth Paltrow - Shakespeare in Love
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth
Fernanda Montenegro - Central Station
Meryl Streep - One True Thing
Emily Watson - Hilary and Jackie

[edit] Best Performance By An Actor In A Supporting Role
James Coburn - Affliction
Robert Duvall - A Civil Action
Ed Harris - The Truman Show
Geoffrey Rush - Shakespeare in Love
Billy Bob Thornton - A Simple Plan

[edit] Best Performance By An Actress In A Supporting Role
Judi Dench - Shakespeare in Love
Kathy Bates - Primary Colors
Brenda Blethyn - Little Voice
Rachel Griffiths - Hilary and Jackie
Lynn Redgrave - Gods and Monsters

Top class Post there Budd,

Shakespeare in love doing so well pretty much sums up the oscars for me,

Vamoose Killers Hmmm, the last three look a tad out of place there.

I disagree mate, Gladiator and MDB are two of my all time fav films. American Beauty I wasn't keen on aprt from Kevin Staceys preformance.

Capt'n Midnight · 18-03-2009 9:37pm

pipeliner wrote: »

all of the peter jackson movies.

Bad Taste is a great little film. But yeah King Kong was pants especially if you have a moderate understanding of physics.

Shawshank again, it's got a feel good ending but much of the rest has been done before.

The Shinning

eagle eye · 18-03-2009 10:21pm

I presume that by saying overrated you mean critically well received but you just don't rate it.

The Royal Tenenbaums got a great reception from the critics but bored the pance off me.

Acacia · 19-03-2009 7:23pm

Juno, Kill Bill and Napoleon Dynamite.

m83 · 19-03-2009 10:04pm

Acacia wrote: »

Juno, Kill Bill and Napoleon Dynamite.

Yes, Yes and more Yes!! Fine choices!

RandolphEsq · 19-03-2009 11:16pm

The Firm.
I know a film cannot live up to the book but that failed miserably. It wasted 2 hours of my life and I want them back

pipeliner · 20-03-2009 12:21am

Jumper: Total film gave it 5 stars.

It may be a little cruel of me as i only caught the first 10 minutes, fell asleep and woke up for the last 10. So maybe the middle deserved 5 stars.

Another honorable mention goes to Munich, it just moved sooo god damned slowly for me.

Wall:E or whatever it's called. I think it just got praise because it's pixar.

No country for Old men: It was great in parts, but it didn't know how to finish.

All of George Clooney's movies

21-03-2009 4:09am

Schindler's List.

godspal · 21-03-2009 12:47pm

The Pianist:
While technically being brilliant; the cinematography of the film was grey and dampened which really suited and eccentuated the tone of the film. Also some of the set pieces such as the old man being dropped from the second story window really create a sense of shock. However the script is atricious, when they are talking about the war at the beginning of the film I really just wanted punch them in the mouth, the dialogue seemed so forced and unnessacary.
The next thing I really hated about this film was the character development. The film centres around a character who really does not show any likeable characteristics or any grounds for people feeling empathy for him (outside of him simply being a Jew.) The ending and him surviving feels somewhat empty in the hollow of post-war poland. Unenjoyable, not provoking... Just superficial.

Saving Private Ryan:
Typical Spielberg. Over-sentimental, over the top, more style then substance.

Definitely not a bad, actually quiet a good film Fargo, but the amount of focus it gets compared to all the other Cohen Brother films (espically Millers Crossing and Raising Arizona) is not justified.

Capt'n Midnight · 21-03-2009 3:12pm

godspal wrote:

Definitely not a bad, actually quiet a good film Fargo, but the amount of focus it gets compared to all the other Cohen Brother films (espically Millers Crossing and Raising Arizona) is not justified.

Fargo looses a million points because of the gimmick of pretending it's a true story.

irish_bob · 21-03-2009 4:06pm

BrightEyes wrote: »

The Firm.
I know a film cannot live up to the book but that failed miserably. It wasted 2 hours of my life and I want them back

+1

the firm is awfully dull and the story is no better than in any tv movie , it also has the always awfull jean tripplehorn

amasingly , it was among the top 5 grossing movies of 1993

21-03-2009 4:35pm

godspal wrote: »

Saving Private Ryan:
Typical Spielberg. Over-sentimental, over the top, more style then substance.

How dare you :mad:

m83 · 22-03-2009 5:20am

The boondock saints. It makes me weep with anger yet so many people love it.

Anton Chigurh · 22-03-2009 6:35pm

Mulholland Drive - WTF is it about?

Superman Returns - Pants.

Casino Royale - Decent Bond Flick, but that's not saying much.

1st post by the way!!

irish_bob · 22-03-2009 11:05pm

Anton Chigurh wrote: »

Mulholland Drive - WTF is it about?

Superman Returns - Pants.

Casino Royale - Decent Bond Flick, but that's not saying much.

1st post by the way!!

superman returns was horrendous alright

Mal-Adjusted · 23-03-2009 12:27am

how about Watchmen, i was expecting a master-piece, instead i got a film that was, meh...

banshee_bones · 23-03-2009 12:55am

Am in agreement with the following as over rated
Crash
and
Donnie Darko

Black Swan · 23-03-2009 1:00am

"300"... Cliché and too predictable throughout.

Varkov · 23-03-2009 1:25am

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Any Woody aLan movie
Brokeback Mountain

Mal-Adjusted · 23-03-2009 1:33am

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

"300"... Cliché and too predictable throughout.

predictable? but you already know what happens! everybody's heard that story since childhood!

c - 13 · 23-03-2009 5:04am

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

"300"... Cliché and too predictable throughout.

Thats a bit like saying Passions of the christ and titanic were predicatable really.

Saw Goodfellas for the first time recently and was very underwhelmed by the whole thing. Can't understand how it gets so much praise.

spinandscribble · 23-03-2009 5:39am

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

predictable? but you already know what happens! everybody's heard that story since childhood!

yes it follows the story faithfully enough. as a classics student and a frank miller fan i loved it to be honest. to be fair its like the originator of that 'last stand' story so its won its place to be cliche.

jcatony · 23-03-2009 9:23pm

Slumdog millionaire. Ridiculously overhyped.

Mal-Adjusted · 23-03-2009 9:30pm

spinandscribble wrote: »

yes it follows the story faithfully enough. as a classics student and a frank miller fan i loved it to be honest. to be fair its like the originator of that 'last stand' story so its won its place to be cliche.

if it's th originator of the "last stand" how can it be cliche?

Wacker · 23-03-2009 10:38pm

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

if it's th originator of the "last stand" how can it be cliche?

The Battle of Thermopylae was the origin of the last stand. 300 was based on it. Hardly rocket science!

Mal-Adjusted · 23-03-2009 11:00pm

Wacker wrote: »

The Battle of Thermopylae was the origin of the last stand. 300 was based on it. Hardly rocket science!

if it's the originator, then only the copycats can be cliche. hardly rocket science:D

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