Man City vs Man Utd 8:00PM Monday SS1

kryogen · 28-04-2012 8:40pm

Man United

I hope United win from an offside goal that hasn't even crossed the line

cgpg5 · 28-04-2012 8:41pm

Draw

Just can't see United winning this. But at the end of the day they don't have to really, a draw will seal them the title surely. It will be a brilliant result.

While I hope City win the title you cannot deny United are thoroughly deserving of it (despite being average on many occasions this season) if they can get something in this game.

Saying that if City win I think they'll win the title as they'll win their remaining two games imo

Gbear · 28-04-2012 8:45pm

Draw

cgpg5 wrote: »

Just can't see United winning this. But at the end of the day they don't have to really, a draw will seal them the title surely. It will be a brilliant result.

Barring the hiring of contract killers to remove the opposition, I don't think that you can argue that the team who wins the league doesn't deserve it.

the realpigiron · 28-04-2012 8:46pm

Draw

City to win for me. They have the quality to beat Man U and should have the bit between their teeth now.

Can Man City fans tell us what they make of Mancini's downbeat comments and attitude in his dealings with the press. Is he trying to play some kind of mind games or what? His demeanour is kind of strange at times. I could be wrong but it looks to me like he'll pack it in at City whether they win the league or not, something else going on behind the scenes maybe. Anyway as a neutral, hope City win and keep the race going.

cgpg5 · 28-04-2012 8:48pm

Draw

Gbear wrote: »

Barring the hiring of contract killers to remove the opposition, I don't think that you can argue that the team who wins the league doesn't deserve it.

(At the risk of aggravating Utd fans!) If City hypothetically went out and hammered United on Monday and somehow lost the title from there you'd have to feel the second best team won it.

karma_ · 28-04-2012 8:53pm

6 -1 to City.

Jimmy Iovine · 28-04-2012 8:54pm

the realpigiron wrote: »

Can Man City fans tell us what they make of Mancini's downbeat comments and attitude in his dealings with the press. Is he trying to play some kind of mind games or what? His demeanour is kind of strange at times. I could be wrong but it looks to me like he'll pack it in at City whether they win the league or not, something else going on behind the scenes maybe. Anyway as a neutral, hope City win and keep the race going.

Not a City fan but to me it looks like Mancini is trying not to get too far ahead of himself. Better for him to come back in a few weeks time and be told he was wrong than to build City up to be the ones to beat and have it come back to bite him in the ass.

I don't think he'll pack it in. They'd be stupid to sack him as well imo. They need a manager in there for at least a few seasons.

Al Capwned · 28-04-2012 8:56pm

I cannot wait till Monday night - Really am looking forward to it.....

I'm going over to the Swansea game next Sunday, and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a win on Monday and us seeing the trophy presented after thumping Swansea.

Is it??????

cgpg5 · 28-04-2012 8:56pm

Draw

the realpigiron wrote: »

City to win for me. They have the quality to beat Man U and should have the bit between their teeth now.

Can Man City fans tell us what they make of Mancini's downbeat comments and attitude in his dealings with the press. Is he trying to play some kind of mind games or what? His demeanour is kind of strange at times. I could be wrong but it looks to me like he'll pack it in at City whether they win the league or not, something else going on behind the scenes maybe. Anyway as a neutral, hope City win and keep the race going.

I somehow don't think he's being serious. Anyway the talking will be done on the pitch. As others said, I hope it's not ruined by a stupid penalty/sending-off/goal decision!

kryogen · 28-04-2012 8:59pm

Man United

cgpg5 wrote: »

(At the risk of aggravating Utd fans!) If City hypothetically went out and hammered United on Monday and somehow lost the title from there you'd have to feel the second best team won it.

Why? Just because Crystal Palace beat United in the FA cup didnt make them the better team, in any one game anything can happen.

The best team wins the league

Edit:

cgpg5 · 28-04-2012 9:02pm

Draw

kryogen wrote: »

Why? Just because Liverpool beat United in the FA cup didnt make them the better team, in any one game anything can happen.

The best team wins the league

Well I said IF they happened to beat Utd comfortably it would have been two hammerings in the one season. Not a one-off game. Anyway I can't see a hammering in any way

I'd rather see United winning the title on the back of beating/Drawing City as a neutral. I'm sure ye don't give a toss as long as they win it any old way.

kryogen · 28-04-2012 9:07pm

Man United

cgpg5 wrote: »

Well I said IF they happened to beat Utd comfortably it would have been two hammerings in the one season. Not a one-off game. Anyway I can't see a hammering in any way

I'd rather see United winning the title on the back of beating/Drawing City as a neutral. I'm sure ye don't give a toss as long as they win it any old way.

Of course not, let any rival fan have whatever moral victory they like, wouldnt bother United fans.

My point is that City are excellent at home and if they beat United its not exactly going to be the shock of the century, the OT was also a one off game in the middle of a league season, the result was a little skewed but Im not going to argue that, City won well thats all that matters, if they beat United Monday then they will have beat United twice in the season, that means gaining 6 points. Thats it, 6 points out of a possible 114.

The best team over the course of 38 games wins the league, every year. Liverpool have done the double over United before when United won the league, didn't mean Liverpool were the better team in the league though. I am in no way trying to bring Liverpool into this, just they are the first example to pop into my head!

Turtyturd · 28-04-2012 9:12pm

Draw

kryogen wrote: »

Of course not, let any rival fan have whatever moral victory they like, wouldnt bother United fans.

My point is that City are excellent at home and if they beat United its not exactly going to be the shock of the century, the OT was also a one off game in the middle of a league season, the result was a little skewed but Im not going to argue that, City won well thats all that matters, if they beat United Monday then they will have beat United twice in the season, that means gaining 6 points. Thats it, 6 points out of a possible 114.

The best team over the course of 38 games wins the league, every year. Liverpool have done the double over United before when United won the league, didn't mean Liverpool were the better team in the league though. I am in no way trying to bring Liverpool into this, just they are the first example to pop into my head!

Thou dost protest too much....change your first example to Crystal Palace in the league cup and people might believe you.

willmunny1990 · 28-04-2012 9:22pm

I'll go for a victory for United. United have been in must win games like this time and time again and they can defiantly get a result.

niallo27 · 28-04-2012 9:30pm

Man United

This is such a massive game I love it, I actually think there is a lot more pressure on utd, if they lost lose an 8pts lead to their city rivals it will be as big as newcastles collapse all those years ago. There will be a lot of nervous players in the first 20 mins.

user2011 · 28-04-2012 9:36pm

Man United

Apprehensive too say the least about this.

From reports that i've read Evans will be out or playing injured does not fill me with joy going into this game. That gives me a big

i was kinda losing hope for the fella but he has shown what kinda player he can be for us hopefuuly he is 100% if he is. I'm going to go for a draw. And hopefully number 20!

kryogen · 28-04-2012 9:37pm

Man United

Turtyturd wrote: »

Thou dost protest too much....change your first example to Crystal Palace in the league cup and people might believe you.

Aye, think I may be..........obsessed!!!!!!!!!

killwill · 28-04-2012 9:54pm

cgpg5 wrote: »

Well I said IF they happened to beat Utd comfortably it would have been two hammerings in the one season. Not a one-off game. Anyway I can't see a hammering in any way

I'd rather see United winning the title on the back of beating/Drawing City as a neutral. I'm sure ye don't give a toss as long as they win it any old way.

And 2 each over the course of the season.
Noone is denying City tore Utd a new one in Old Trafford, they were by far the better the team on the day. However 3 of those 6 wre in injury time.
NO chance City score 3 goals tomorrow let alone 6.

cgpg5 · 28-04-2012 9:55pm

Draw

killwill wrote: »

And 2 each over the course of the season.
Noone is denying City tore Utd a new one in Old Trafford, they were by far the better the team on the day. However 3 of those 6 wre in injury time.
NO chance City score 3 goals tomorrow let alone 6.

Wouldn't rule it out tbh. Definitely wouldn't say no chance

monkey9 · 28-04-2012 9:56pm

kryogen wrote: »

Aye, think I may be..........obsessed!!!!!!!!!

I knew it!!!!!!!

monkey9 · 28-04-2012 9:57pm

I just can't see Utd losing this. These are the kind of matches they seem to thrive on and get the job done. A draw i reckon!

Will I Amnt · 28-04-2012 9:59pm

monkey9 wrote: »

kryogen wrote: »

Aye, think I may be..........obsessed!!!!!!!!!

I knew it!!!!!!!

Sure aren't we all

Copper_pipe · 28-04-2012 10:02pm

killwill wrote: »

And 2 each over the course of the season.
Noone is denying City tore Utd a new one in Old Trafford, they were by far the better the team on the day. However 3 of those 6 wre in injury time.
NO chance City score 3 goals tomorrow let alone 6.

no chance of any goals tommorow im afraid

killwill · 28-04-2012 10:11pm

cgpg5 wrote: »

Wouldn't rule it out tbh. Definitely wouldn't say no chance

United played 4-4-2 that day until Evans was sent off. Mancini was tactically superior and went against his Italian style and sent City out in the second half very offensive minded.

On Monday City need to win so Utd will be setting out in a 4-5-1 looking to defend and hit on the counter attack. I would imagine SAF will play Nani, Young, Valencia and Rooney as his front 4.

I would not be surprised to see this kinda line up.

DDG

Raf---Rio

Evans---Evra

Carrick

Jones----
Valencia--Young----Nani

Rooney

Obviously smalling at RB is a good shout and Scholes could well start. But that is a good defensive setup with great counterattacking options.

killwill · 28-04-2012 10:12pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

no chance of any goals tommorow im afraid

Ooop, meant Monday, smartarse!

MagicMarker · 28-04-2012 10:14pm

There is absolutely no way Scholes will not start.

killwill · 28-04-2012 10:16pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

There is absolutely no way Scholes will not start.

I am not so sure, iirc he had a poor game against spurs due to the high intensity of the midfield battle. I reckon Monday night might be the same.

monkey9 · 28-04-2012 10:16pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

There is absolutely no way Scholes will not start.

It'd be typical Scholes to pop up with the winner!!

MagicMarker · 28-04-2012 10:18pm

killwill wrote: »

I am not so sure, iirc he had a poor game against spurs due to the high intensity of the midfield battle. I reckon Monday night might be the same.

Which is why we'll have 5 in midfield.

Blatter · 28-04-2012 10:20pm

Fascinating game in many respects. If City go one up, what will they do? Will Mancini go ultra cautious and draw United on or will he go for the second?

From a United perspective, I'm sure we will sit back somewhat, try to make things difficult and attempt to hit them on the counter attack which we should get chances to do if the game drags on scoreless, as it really is a must win game for City. That will obviously change if we go behind.

Very difficult to call, could go either way.

United lineup is difficult to predict.

Can see us going with something like;

DDG

Rafael----Evans

Ferdinand---Evra

Carrick

Cleverley----Scholes

Valencia

Welbeck

Rooney

joshrogan · 28-04-2012 10:49pm

Draw

Balotelli to be sent off but Tevez to save the day for city.

Professional Griefer · 29-04-2012 3:54am

I cannot wait. Leave exam, come home and then the game.

Its one of the only games this year I'm actually nervous about. Looking forward to it though. Trust our lads to at least get a draw.

dfx- · 29-04-2012 4:58am

Man United

IvySlayer wrote: »

Reckon Fergie will go with 451.

Agreed. I'll be flabbergasted if this doesn't finish in a tedious 0-0 draw. Ferguson will be at the defence all week after the Everton game.

kryogen · 29-04-2012 8:09am

Man United

Its a little bit sad, for me anyway, that for our biggest game of the season the line up is so tough to predict.

shadowcomplex · 29-04-2012 8:58am

united will line up 1 of 2 ways but for definite united will pay a midfield 3 of

scholes

carrick

jones

Our forwards will be a 3 of Rooney, Valencia, Nani ,Welbeck and Young

If Welbeck plays Nani and Young probably wont

Id nearly drop Valencia for this because Nani and Young are better at scoring goals and more dangerous on the counter

but i think it will be

dea gea

Rafael

Ferdinand

Evans

Evra

Scholes

Carrick

Jones

Valencia

Nani

Rooney

willowthewisp · 29-04-2012 10:32am

Is Balotelli available?

Al Capwned · 29-04-2012 10:34am

willowthewisp wrote: »

Is Balotelli available?

Yup

NinjaK · 29-04-2012 10:48am

Draw

City have hit form and are at home so City unfortunately.

Blatter · 29-04-2012 11:19am

I would say there's nothing definite about the United lineup.

Thinking about it, this wouldn't surprise me one bit;

DDG

Rafael--Evans--Ferdinand--Evra

Carrick--Scholes

Valencia----Rooney

Young

Welbeck

gerryo777 · 29-04-2012 11:29am

Draw

Blatter wrote: »

I would say there's nothing definite about the United lineup.

Thinking about it, this wouldn't surprise me one bit;
DDG
Rafael--Evans--Ferdinand--Evra
Carrick--Scholes
Valencia----Rooney
Young
Welbeck

I just hope there's a strong referee to deal with young's diving and scholes 'mistimed' tackles!

Al Capwned · 29-04-2012 11:30am

gerryo777 wrote: »

I just hope there's a strong referee to deal with young's diving and scholes 'mistimed' tackles!

So it begins.....
:rolleyes:

Blatter · 29-04-2012 11:36am

gerryo777 wrote: »

I just hope there's a strong referee to deal with young's diving and scholes 'mistimed' tackles!

I hope there's a strong mod online, to deal with **** stirring posts like this!

Iang87 · 29-04-2012 11:36am

Draw

I fancy city to win tomorrow,

I also dont buy into this United always win these big games type of thing United lost the last massive game they were involved in where it was a "must win", I'm talking about the Basle game. I know its a while back but I've also seen united almost switch off at times recently and if you do that at any stage City will score.

Another thing that I dont get is united will win cos they know how they win the league, does that mean United are the only team that can win a league for however long. And dont get me started on the you have to lose a league to win a league. I'm a liverpool fan look how that worked for us.

Finally City 3-1 but united to win the league cos they know how and city have to lose one to win one

Leiva · 29-04-2012 11:44am

It's the team with the best home record "vs" the team with the best away record.

Can't wait for it tbh.

It will boil down to who has the cool head and killer/clinical attributes.

That's why I think even if UTD only hit 4th gear then then will escape with a draw .

So I'm going with a score draw.

KittyeeTrix · 29-04-2012 12:15pm

Haven't a notion what the score will be tomorrow!!!

Can't vote as I'm afraid if I say a

- City win, i'll jinx them...
- United win, the jinx won't work and they'll win
- Draw......wouldn't be happy at that at all....

kryogen · 29-04-2012 12:18pm

Man United

gerryo777 wrote: »

I just hope there's a strong referee to deal with young's diving and scholes 'mistimed' tackles!

Barr · 29-04-2012 1:00pm

Draw

I have to fancy City tomorrow nite. Lots of goals 4-2

aperture_nuig · 29-04-2012 3:30pm

I will cry if Giggs starts. He's a legend of the club, but he isn't having a good season and we can't afford passengers in this game. Prediction: A score draw, united to surprise everyone and score first, city to go ahead by a quick 2 goals, then united hanging on and nicking the draw in the 97th minute :P

Copper_pipe · 29-04-2012 7:42pm

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Valencia for young perhaps?

Will I Amnt · 29-04-2012 7:52pm

There's no way Valencia won't start if fit.

Man City vs Man Utd 8:00PM Monday SS1

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