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How Many GB's / TB's do you think your Brain can hold

  • 20-03-2012 1:56pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭


    How Many GB's / TB's do you think your Brain can hold ?

    Well how much do you think your brain could hold or does anyone know a rough answer.

    For me it's a bit floppy at a whopping 1.44MB

    Reaslistically though I couldn't even guess an answer for it.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭howsyourtusk


    I seen an estimate somewhere, 4TB maybe is normal brain capacity? I dunno though, but the figure is out there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    It doesn't hold any, its a different system and they are not sure how it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    FAT32 or NTFS?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    it depends... is your brain storing info on a FAT partition or Now To Forget Sh1t partition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    How much could johnny mnemonic hold?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    About 6,500 porno movies.


    I find it more convenient to use porno movies as units when referring to digital storage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Serious answer.

    Considering every interaction you have had in your life, and that the brain has been compared to the biggest super computers, the figure is possibly unimaginable

    After Hours answer.

    About three fiddy, or 42.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    my brain is like a computer, the older I get the less avaliable memory I have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    17 bytes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Giblet wrote: »
    :(

    Oooo ninja edit.

    So was that the hard drive, or the RAM you were measuring.

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Eh I'd say it would depend on the person. I'd say a savant, like Rainman, would probably be 1000's of TBs. He'd have excellent drivers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    My CPU is a neuro-net processor, a learning computer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Mine seems to have a virus at the moment, I should have installed guinness protection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    My brain has two partitions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    my cats breath smells like cat food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,280 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I would make this simple by giving you an idea about what it means brain storage.
    When you go out on a date with your girlfriend you can remember every single detail that happened that day before , during and after the date. What you were wearing what she was wearing the place you went to every single detail . you could recall everything that happened as if it was an extremely high definition recording but not just Video and audio, the smell , the weather her perfume what you were thinking how the food tasted how did you feel in your heart , with an extremely wide angle view , you can picture the whole place even if you weren't looking that instance at what happened , you can even see yourself and your date in infinite different angles. even yourself as a third person.

    So if we had an Extreme definition camera recording in every single angle plus a weather computer recording the weather , and another unknown types of recorders running simultaneously recording the thoughts , the smell, feelings ... etc . recording that single little fleeting date . You would need Infinite storage media to store. and if you could squeeze your mind a little bit you can remember and picture everything you have passed by though your entire lives. it's all stored in your mind using this super recording XD device. So I would say its infinite.

    The way brain stores data is not bits with ones and zeros. neither analog having infinite possible combinations . it can picture the data using little information about it . which storage media cant do at all.

    let me give you some example:

    Imagine a house

    A door

    Open that door and get into the hallway

    rooms to your right and left

    the walls and their painting

    Enter a room

    its a bedroom

    stand on one hand

    get up

    open up the window and look out side

    Now the idea behind this is when I gave you this little info I bet 80% of what you pictured was your own house. and the bedroom was your bedroom with the same bed the same decoration paint etc. the window and its view is you bedroom's or some other bedroom you have visited before in a hotel or someplace ... You probably never entered that house this way or done a hand stand before yet you pictured it in XD as if it was true using those little few lines of text info. this is how a brain stores data. X-Def video = few text lines = 100 bytes using a normal computer text processor.

    Tn other terms a 100 byte in a brain = more than 10 GB of XD video on a computer. a simple word "lake" 4 letters 4 bytes you can visualize or imagine an infinite number of lakes more than 10 MegaPixels resolution. lets say this word gave you a picture of at least 100 different 10MP lakes = 1GB

    How about storing a study textbook of 1 MB into your brain which is extremely the simplest thing your brain can do. it would need more than 268435456 GB of imaging storage on a normal computer . how about what you studied and what you can study and learn ...


    TL;DR - Shit loads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭spankmaster2000


    I don't think Brains work like that.

    I can barely remember my phone number, but a computer could remember a number which is billions of digits in length.
    Whereas I can remember my last birthday; but a file with information (somehow) storing all the sights, sounds, smells, textures, etc would be enormous. (i.e. not just a 2d video recording).

    Apples and Oranges!

    Or;

    My memory is just about the right size to fit a picture of my true love's beautiful face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,112 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I would make this simple by giving you an idea about what it means brain storage.
    When you go out on a date with your girlfriend you can remember every single detail that happened that day before , during and after the date. What you were wearing what she was wearing the place you went to every single detail . you could recall everything that happened as if it was an extremely high definition recording but not just Video and audio, the smell , the weather her perfume what you were thinking how the food tasted how did you feel in your heart , with an extremely wide angle view , you can picture the whole place even if you weren't looking that instance at what happened , you can even see yourself and your date in infinite different angles. even yourself as a third person.

    So if we had an Extreme definition camera recording in every single angle plus a weather computer recording the weather , and another unknown types of recorders running simultaneously recording the thoughts , the smell, feelings ... etc . recording that single little fleeting date . You would need Infinite storage media to store. and if you could squeeze your mind a little bit you can remember and picture everything you have passed by though your entire lives. it's all stored in your mind using this super recording XD device. So I would say its infinite.

    The way brain stores data is not bits with ones and zeros. neither analog having infinite possible combinations . it can picture the data using little information about it . which storage media cant do at all.

    let me give you some example:

    Imagine a house

    A door

    Open that door and get into the hallway

    rooms to your right and left

    the walls and their painting

    Enter a room

    its a bedroom

    stand on one hand

    get up

    open up the window and look out side

    Now the idea behind this is when I gave you this little info I bet 80% of what you pictured was your own house. and the bedroom was your bedroom with the same bed the same decoration paint etc. the window and its view is you bedroom's or some other bedroom you have visited before in a hotel or someplace ... You probably never entered that house this way or done a hand stand before yet you pictured it in XD as if it was true using those little few lines of text info. this is how a brain stores data. X-Def video = few text lines = 100 bytes using a normal computer text processor.

    Tn other terms a 100 byte in a brain = more than 10 GB of XD video on a computer. a simple word "lake" 4 letters 4 bytes you can visualize or imagine an infinite number of lakes more than 10 MegaPixels resolution. lets say this word gave you a picture of at least 100 different 10MP lakes = 1GB

    How about storing a study textbook of 1 MB into your brain which is extremely the simplest thing your brain can do. it would need more than 268435456 GB of imaging storage on a normal computer . how about what you studied and what you can study and learn ...


    TL;DR - Shit loads

    I think you need a de-frag.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    I'm a Vic-20..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    I seen an estimate somewhere, 4TB maybe is normal brain capacity? I dunno though, but the figure is out there.

    Try 2.5 petabytes.

    4 TB is nothing.
    So if we had an Extreme definition camera recording in every single angle plus a weather computer recording the weather , and another unknown types of recorders running simultaneously recording the thoughts , the smell, feelings ... etc . recording that single little fleeting date . You would need Infinite storage media to store. and if you could squeeze your mind a little bit you can remember and picture everything you have passed by though your entire lives. it's all stored in your mind using this super recording XD device. So I would say its infinite.

    This is a little bit off, common thought seems to be that the way the brain stores memory is through association, not direct record/replication.

    If you walk into a room 400 times you don't have 400 recordings of the room, you have one, which the brain alters and updates accordingly depending on changes made to the room...the changes then overlap...but the memory of the human brain is basically transient and ethereal, it's not static.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Seachmall wrote: »
    About 6,500 porno movies.


    I find it more convenient to use porno movies as units when referring to digital storage.


    OOO - I like that analogy, but would you remember 6500 scene for scene ?

    FAT or NTFS - doesn't matter to me.

    4TB someone mentioned, that seems reasonablish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Depends on how many hours defrag you get at night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Much less now than before Paddy's weekend!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Sounds to me that once we find out exactly how the human brain works we will have supercomputers the size of a melon in the future so ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Sounds to me that once we find out exactly how the human brain works we will have supercomputers the size of a melon in the future so ??

    Not really.

    Computers work with a specific architecture designed to run programs. The brain has no such architecture.

    When we know exactly how the brain works and have the technological means to fuse organic and mechanical elements we might be able to do something along the lines of turning the brain into a supercomputer.

    Right now though, and for a very long time, your brain can only really do what you yourself can do. Obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    My ears are USB 3.0 so fcuk you!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Not really.

    Computers work with a specific architecture designed to run programs. The brain has no such architecture.

    When we know exactly how the brain works and have the technological means to fuse organic and mechanical elements we might be able to do something along the lines of turning the brain into a supercomputer.

    Right now though, and for a very long time, your brain can only really do what you yourself can do. Obviously.

    Sounds to me that "once we find out exactly how the human brain works" we will have supercomputers the size of a melon in the future so ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I really need to de-frag


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    efb wrote: »
    I really need to de-frag

    Try deleting the System 32 file.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Sounds to me that "once we find out exactly how the human brain works" we will have supercomputers the size of a melon in the future so ??

    Bolding points doesn't mean that you haven't left out important caveats that are required to give your hypothesis some merit.

    Would you like some lovely crayons?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Try 2.5 petabytes.

    4 TB is nothing.



    This is a little bit off, common thought seems to be that the way the brain stores memory is through association, not direct record/replication.

    If you walk into a room 400 times you don't have 400 recordings of the room, you have one, which the brain alters and updates accordingly depending on changes made to the room...the changes then overlap...but the memory of the human brain is basically transient and ethereal, it's not static.

    Is this the reason that when one of my friends gets a haircut I can't remember what they looked like before?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Our brain is not like a hard disk at all though... it's apples ans oranges.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Bolding pointsdoesn't mean that you haven't left out important caveats that are required to give your hypothesis some merit.

    Would you like some lovely crayons?
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    .

    Yes you are.

    Back on-topic please.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    150 petaflops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭Casillas


    Bah, I use cloud computing also known as the ether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Funny thing about memory...every time you remember something, your brain rewrites it, which keeps it 'fresh'. If it does this enough times, the memory (neural pathways) becomes more static..i.e, it becomes long term memory. But even these long term memories degrade over time if we are not actively reminded of them, which then 'rewrites' the memory. And events that only happened recently can have gaps as well, as the brain only tries to retain relevant information...it deliberate forgets most of what we sense.

    The brain has a great way of dealing with this. It fills in the missing bits with 'likely data' based from other long term memories.
    If you ask 5 people to exactly describe an event that happened just a few hours ago, or many many years ago, you will get very different recollections because of this. So oddly enough, for most cases, the memories from a few weeks/months ago that are 'important' are actually our more accurate memories.

    For evolution, it makes sense. Information we know longer regularly need is forgotten over time, and things that just happened are only put into long term memory if we see it as important or use it a lot.

    So, for this reason, memory capacity probably won't ever be reached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Incalculable in real terms.
    The brain is incredibly good at compressing data and not the same way that computers do


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Burgo wrote: »
    How much could johnny mnemonic hold?
    80GB 'cos he needs a memory doubler just to get to 160GB
    but he stretches it out to 320GB :eek:

    So looks like he's using something like Nand Flash and going up to 4 bits per cell.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/21/nand_bleak_future/
    For example, our data show each additional bit-per-cell increases write latency by 4X and reduces program/erase lifetime by 10X to 20X, while providing decreasing returns in density (2X, 1.5X, and 1.3X between 1-,2-,3- and 4-bit cells, respectively).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Ah here you seriously cannot compare the brain to even the most advanced super computer. For one they have a fairly good understanding of how a computer works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Xivilai


    250 gb 5400 rpm :(

    Anyone reccommend a good free tumour scanner/remover


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