Apartments in Navan - advice needed

I have heard the same Fuff! My wife used to own an apartment there about 10 years ago and sold. I always got the impression it went downhill after that.

fuff wrote: »

I assume there is a reason they're so affordable!

In addition to the social issues there is the real issue of the economy - supply and demand. I know you make reference to your own level of affordability but buying an apartment is a major mistake. Nobody wants apartments now. Although it may be anecdotal I strongly believe that banks will not give mortgages out on apartments because they are far too risky as an investment. They were thrown up as pointed out previously to maximise profits from small spaces in a short space of time. Also there is an abundance of empty houses and even more apartments so you will be less likely to be able to sell it in future.

I'm sure if you go looking for a house with your budget and you make an offer someone will take it, somewhere. Personally I'd prefer an old cottage which I can do up over time than a dodgy apartment. Consider as well that 1200e in management charges over 20 years is a further 24000euro!

If you are buying property today you need to buy with the intention that you will be content there for 20 years because the market will never recover. Those apartments will be a lot less attractive in 3 years time, no doubt about it.

I, like many others lived in rivermill 10 years ago. Stayed there for one month and got the hell out of there. Full of drugs, prostitutes and riff raff.

The steeples - I never knew it was haunted? It's a kip too though.

Poolboy quay - thought these looked lovely from the outside and when they were just built but supposedly they are full of the scum of the earth that have been blown into our town from every direction.

As many others have said you should go for a 3 bed semi. If you go on daft.ie there are a few very reasonable ones there. If I was advising anybody that wanted to find a nice property in a nice area thats not expensive Id be looking at Northside - clonmagadden fort/tara court/the paddocks area or fitzherbert court/blackcastle estate/beaufort place

Southside - Balreask village/canterbrook/Limekiln wood all on the trim road in Navan

Avoid rivermill, the steeples, poolboy quay, clusker park, anywhere in windtown, reask, townspark, clogherboy park, claremont estate and anywhere in Johnstown, woodview not great either but woodlands nice

lukesmom wrote: »

Parts of it are but it's fast becoming a mini ballymun

Sorry but I cant agree with that, It would be more accurate to say parts of it are a little run down but to call it a mini ballymun is plain ridiculous!

I agree with your assesment of the other areas you mentioned but all in all Johnstown is fine.

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

That's just not true. There was one incident of a bomb targeted at one individual. And what murders are you talking about?

Everything I mentioned is true, there was a bomb, there was a murder, drug importers, dealers etc, ahve lived there along with certain West Dublin criminals, crime rate is the highest in the town (ask a garda).


Murder referred to was a drug related stabbing some years back, a house party gone wrong.

Duffff-Man wrote: »

That was one murder, he was not an innocent man, he was a drug dealer. There have been few murders in the town in the last 20+ years. There are drugs in every town, in every estate, in every apartment block, there are of course going to be drug dealers in towns. Crime is at it's highest at the weekends when everyone is coming out of the nightclubs, just like any other town.

All in all it's not a bad town, but like all other towns it has it's fair share of problems.

Totally agree, was just clarifying for the previous poster, Navan's a great town and an excellent place to live, I've lived here pretty much my whole life and wouldn't like to change, that said there are parts of it I wouldn't live in.
Crime around nightclubs etc is pretty rare here TBH, the town's well policed, cctv, patrols etc.

Duffff-Man wrote: »

What about the likes of Abbeygrove, clogherboy, towns park? Those areas aren't in Johnstown yet you see the amount of anto-social behaviour there and drug problems. Johnstown has a big population, it's a big area of the town. Of course there are going to be drug problems, but no more so than anywhere else in the town.

lukesmom wrote: »

I already mentioned Clogherboy Park. Abbeygrove has always had its share of anti-social behaviour but nothing major really. And Townspark has quietened down a lot the past few years. I never said it was worse than anywhere in the town but I did say I wouldn't like to bring my kids up there. I think it is only going to get worse up there. That's what happens when you build alot of estates in one small enough area, there is bound to be anti social behaviour. I'm just saying I would not like to bring my kids up there! And yeah I know the town like the back of my hand

So going on what your saying here, all the above estates will end up the same because "thats what happens when you build a lot of estates in one small area".

And yeah I know the town like the back of my hand

And your point being?

Johnstown is the same as any other part of Navan, with the exception that it has more Dubs in it. That is a thing that a lot of Navan people can't stand, but their opion has changed over the last ten years.

lukesmom wrote: »

No doesn't bother me that Johnstown is full of dubs. I'm nowhere near it! And there's no need to be so argumentative 'and your point being'???. I'm just stating that I wouldn't live in Johnstown because I don't like it out there. It's a kip in my opinion and yeah it is full of dubs but I don't see what that's got to do with anything. There are plenty of dubs in my estate and they are all sound.

How exactly is Johnstown a kip? And btw, I am not from the johnstown area, so I am not being biased.

lukesmom wrote: »

too many sprawling estates in one area.
supervalu over priced
gym rubbish
nothing for kids to do
alot of criminals & scumbags - and YES there are!

However, there are a few areas in Johnstown that are lovely, Carne Hill being one of them and Athlumney wood

How the hell does an over priced supervalu mean it's a kip?
I can name at least two other gyms that in my opion are "rubbish" that are in two different locations.
There is nothing for kids to do in any other part of Navan.
Lot's of scumbags other parts of Navan, does that not mean the whole town is a kip?
I can think of at least six other criminals in other parts of the town.

Your a very narrow minded person. I can walk through Johnstown safetly at night, but if I walk into the town or around other areas I would be taking a high chance of getting hassle. You aren't making a vaild argument. You are saying an area is a kip because it has an over priced supervalu, get real!!!!!!

Lukesmom, your opinion is the typical narrowminded,stereotypical attitude I've seen with all the anti-dubs/blow-ins I've come across. I've lived here the last 9 years and am from Meath and I'm not denying the fact that there is antisocial behaviour and crime in the area but it's no different anywhere you go.
What area of Navan do you live and why is it so much better? Does your Supervalue do 6 chicken fillets for a fiver rather than 5?:rolleyes:

youtube! wrote: »

[I]but the ones you got out in Johnstown aren't from Navan either.
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well that just wrong, i was the victim of a navan scumbag who was well known to the gards. (car stolen and stereo robbed) he was from Bailis downs but was navan born and bred. At the end of the day scumbags are scumbags and you hust cannot come out with statements as narrow minded and plain wrong as that.

I am so sorry for your loss lukesmom and if I had gone thru what you have gone thru I am certain I would have felt the same way,we are afterall only human. It was a brave move to delete your comments.

Good luck to you.

Duffff-Man wrote: »

Im sorry for your loss, and I hope you get justice for your brother.

I wish! frustrating as I have no proof that would stand up in a court and they are not the sort I would want to blow the whistle on either. It will not bring my brother back. I have heard that one of them was ran out of the place by the bigger fry for non payment so at least a little justice there.