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Mountain bike like tyres on a racer

  • 25-08-2012 05:08PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Is this possible, im not interested in high speed and would like safer tyres.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    not really. depends on what size tyre your bike will allow. You may be able to get a tourer tyre on. I have one on my bike and is a 28c tyre but dont think it would go much further. See the pic attached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭VictorRomeo


    Cyclocross tyres are the nearest thing.... I use Conti...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    jwof2006 wrote: »
    Is this possible, im not interested in high speed and would like safer tyres.:D

    Safer from what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Also interested in the answer to this for the purpose of going offroad with my road bike, no crazy downhills or anything, but maybe for a spin through the likes of a forest park on woodland, gravel type paths. The road tyres I'm sure would be punctured within 5 minutes. There's also the lack of suspension. Would it be a danger to the bike even with suitable tyres?

    This is my bike: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=54153524 (I bought it). So not sure if it's even possible with such a bike? If so, any recommendations on a set of tyres to get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭The tax man


    Raam wrote: »
    Safer from what?

    All those broken bottles you missed.:pac:


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    If the bike has caliper brakes, then no, you can't. 28c is the best you can hope for and a lot of bikes won't even have the clearance for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,286 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Raam wrote: »
    Safer from what?
    I too am curious.... do tell OP, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭reallyunique


    Don't know about MTB tyres being safer. Knobblies don't feel great on the road and their grip levels are neither as high nor as predictable as racing tyres. A touring tyre can give decent levels of grip and some tread for the sort of gravel and muck I sometimes find myself on.

    @Cormie: Velouria said this about mild off-roading on skinny tyres. Personally, I'm unconvinced as her handling skills and reactions are better than mine but if I find myself near some roots and mud I might just give it a go if I were feeling brave. You should definitely try it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    Having an MTB and a road bike, I can safely say that in my experience, that I get more grip and more predictable handling on both wet and dry tarmac with the road bike tyres. I've got the rather expensive Continental GP4000s on the road bike and it's taken me a while to learn to trust them as I've taken a few spills on the MTB when I have been cycling on the road. The MTB tyres are Maxxis Advantages which are very very good tyres offroad but they don't have as good grip on the road as the road tyres. The slicks are good at biting through the water to get to the road surface, and the compound itself is grippy (on tarmac) compared to the off-road tires. Now on muddy tarmac, all of the tyres I have used have low grip but the MTB tyres give up earlier but are smoother when sliding. It's odd!

    To better answer the question, what type of surfaces do you expect to cycle on and why do you feel unsafe with the slicks on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Don't know about MTB tyres being safer. Knobblies don't feel great on the road and their grip levels are neither as high nor as predictable as racing tyres. A touring tyre can give decent levels of grip and some tread for the sort of gravel and muck I sometimes find myself on.

    @Cormie: Velouria said this about mild off-roading on skinny tyres. Personally, I'm unconvinced as her handling skills and reactions are better than mine but if I find myself near some roots and mud I might just give it a go if I were feeling brave. You should definitely try it :D

    Thanks a lot, have you any idea whether the bike I linked to would be compatible with more off road tyres? I'm not really sure what to measure and how to tell? Any recommendations on a set of tyres for dirt trails offroad too? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    cormie wrote: »
    Thanks a lot, have you any idea whether the bike I linked to would be compatible with more off road tyres? I'm not really sure what to measure and how to tell? Any recommendations on a set of tyres for dirt trails offroad too? :)
    You *might* squeeze 28s on that but certainly not any wider. You won't get cross tyres on it. There are few bikes in the world that are less suitable for off road riding; I really wouldn't recommend it. If you were just talking about a dirt path that was a shortcut on a commute, or a short section of an adventure race, then sure, it should handle it, but I wouldn't go taking it off road for fun (unless your idea of fun is loss of control and crashing.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Thanks Blorg, I was more thinking just not being limited to tarmac and paved roads and being able to take it on the likes of the Greenway cycle route in Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    cormie wrote: »
    Thanks Blorg, I was more thinking just not being limited to tarmac and paved roads and being able to take it on the likes of the Greenway cycle route in Mayo.
    I don't know how bad that is but you can certainly do unpaved roads. I even used to tour, heavily loaded (as I carried all my girlfriend's stuff as well as my own) on 25s, including on Italian Strada Bianchi. But I wouldn't do it out of choice. You have a much higher risk of pinch flats on a bad surface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    That's good to hear. Do you reckon any oul road tyres will be good? If you remember this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247087 you'll see I've 23 wheels and it says I need 23 or 25 tyres, and there's a suggestion to use continental ultra gator skins or Specialized armilidos. I believe I have 2 Continental Sport 1000 700 x 23c Wire - Black/Red on at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    cormie wrote: »
    That's good to hear. Do you reckon any oul road tyres will be good? If you remember this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247087 you'll see I've 23 wheels and it says I need 23 or 25 tyres, and there's a suggestion to use continental ultra gator skins or Specialized armilidos. I believe I have 2 Continental Sport 1000 700 x 23c Wire - Black/Red on at the moment.
    25 will be much better. You might get 28 on even if out of spec. I prefer Gatorskins to Armadillos. Make sure to inflate as puncture protection does nothing against pinch flats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Thanks again blorg! There's quite a few tyre results for gatorskins on wiggle here: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?s=gatorskins but only the top 3 seem to be available in 25/700. Any particular one I should go for or would they all be the same I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Any of them should do.

    I have a similar vintage giant FCR3 and I have run 28mm tyres on it in the past. They're a pretty tight fit though, I had to do some hacking on my mudguards. I'm currently running 25mm gators and have taken it off road (accidentally) through some forest trails. Tyres coped well enough taking it easy. Only had one or two spots where I lost grip and otherwise it was fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    If you have long reach brakes and alot of frame clearance you can get more than 28mm on. I had 32mm touring tyres on my roadbike before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Cyclepath


    blorg wrote: »
    25 will be much better. You might get 28 on even if out of spec. I prefer Gatorskins to Armadillos. Make sure to inflate as puncture protection does nothing against pinch flats.

    With winter coming in, I'd go with Gatorskins - much better in the wet. I never had a puncture with Armadillos but I had a few slides! Even taking off from the lights, they sometimes slip a bit...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I've never been a fan of either Gatorskins or Armadillos. For me, Conti GP4000s are fine through winter. Everyone has their own preference though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Thanks again folks, might just stick with the 25 incase the 28 don't fit. Not sure how to tell if I have long reach brakes or if the 28's would fit without buying them first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    cormie wrote: »
    Thanks again folks, might just stick with the 25 incase the 28 don't fit. Not sure how to tell if I have long reach brakes or if the 28's would fit without buying them first.

    Most roadbikes don't have long reach brakes but some Giants do. What bike do you have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭SetOverSet


    Another tire worth considering are Conti GP 4 Season, not as puncture resistant as Armadillos or Gatorskins, but pretty close and much more grip. Also available up to 28s AFAIK

    Edit: Wiggle have 2 folding 4 Season + tubes for ~€84 atm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Most roadbikes don't have long reach brakes but some Giants do. What bike do you have?

    Giant SCR 3.0, this one here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247087 (picture of it at the bottom)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    cormie wrote: »
    Giant SCR 3.0, this one here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055247087 (picture of it at the bottom)
    Well if all SCRs are made the same then you should be able to get 32's on, definitely 28's.

    I have 28's on my SCR at the moment in time. I'll probably put a 32 on the rear for a loaded trip to EP at the weekend. My wheel rims are sized for 18-28mm tyres but I never had any trouble with the 32's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Cool, I'll go with 28's of the gatorskins, what's the difference between folding and wire bead? wire bead sounds stronger?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Another vote for Gatorskin 25's. Good enough for the Great Western Greenway, Gaelforce and touring on loose hardcore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,859 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    That's great to heard hardCopy, so 28 should be even better.

    These are the only ones available in 28 actually: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-ultra-gatorskin-road-tyre/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    cormie wrote: »
    That's great to heard hardCopy, so 28 should be even better.

    These are the only ones available in 28 actually: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-ultra-gatorskin-road-tyre/

    I have a 2008 SCR 1.5 and find the 25's just barely squeeze between the callipers when I take the front wheel off, not sure I'd manage with 28's. But I do take the wheel off a lot, as in several times a week.

    If you were to get them in an LBS they may fit them on the spot and you'd know for sure before buying.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Mayo greenway is mostly very fine loose gravel from memory. You could handle it ok on any tyres, but be prepared for the odd skid. Loads of cattle grids. I use 25mm Durano plus tyres which have stayed puncture free so far touch wood. You're also running at slightly lower pressure on the wide tyres, which gives some more comfort on crap surfaces.


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