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Need to re-home our dog

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    #32
    Sigma Force
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Sigma Force


    Hen wise it's easy to keep them secure just get a dog run for them with a roof on cilldara.ie do hen runs now and they last a lifetime there is no reason why your hens should be affected if kept secure.

    They also supply half covered panels so that the hens won't even be able to see the dog and vice versa this will also totally stop any chance of foxes or any other animals getting in at the hens. They are designed to keep dogs in so are perfect also for keeping dogs out. Have used them for rabbits in the past and use them for the dogs and they are brill.


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    #33
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,862 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    OP I have checked with MADRA near Galway & they would take him with a few days notice. If you decide to let him go then PM me & I can give you the details. It would be a good choice as they also run specialist training.


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    #34
    Wolflikeme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    Builderfromhell wrote: »
    On a seperate topic, I admit that I am not an animal lover, but do not understand why people get so upset about one dog being put down when the animal has killed 5 hens and maimed another. Aren't the hens entitled to a peaceful life too.

    Hi Dogownerfromhell,

    Just one dog? That's a disgusting attitude. Go and actively seek a new home for your dog and don't just throw him in a pound.

    Yes he's killed 5 hens, you've neglected to find a solution to this not to mention to remember the fact your dog is killing hens, because...wait for it..he's an animal!


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    #35
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    Hi Dogownerfromhell,

    Just one dog? That's a disgusting attitude. Go and actively seek a new home for your dog and don't just throw him in a pound.

    Yes he's killed 5 hens, you've neglected to find a solution to this not to mention to remember the fact your dog is killing hens, because...wait for it..he's an animal!

    Theres no need for this attitude and another user has already been banned for a similar comment.
    Consider this your one and only warning.


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    #36
    Kitiara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Kitiara


    portgirl123 wrote: »
    has any of these rescues actually confirmed that they have a place for him?
    Yes.


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    #37
    Cherry Blossom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    OP, If some of these rescues have a space for your dog, I would suggest you contact them directly yourself to arrange it with them. I for one would not be handing over a dog to an anonymous poster on the internet who claims to be a transporter and has a definite space for your dog but has not identified exactly where.

    Mod Post:

    Kitara - I suggest you read the forum rules, you are treading on very dangerous ground here:
    Agencies/Rescues:

    If you are an agency or affiliated with an agency then please let the mods know before you post. Agencies are no longer allowed to post in an agency manner or with an agency agenda. This means no linking to your own sites for rehoming or other agency work. No spamming your agency or associated material, and also no speculation/libel against other agencies/rescues.***


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    #38
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Im going to add to Adrenaline Junkies post in that the rule is there becasue in the past we had trouble with a particular rescue asking for money for rehoming animals under the guise of transportation costs,vaccination costs or even just for the animals upkeep when it got to the rescue.

    It turned out that this user was selling the animals on gumtree and donedeal and making a substantial profit from the A+p forums rehoming thread.


    After a discussion between the mods and admins we have decided that we no longer want rescues posting on boards at all in any type of agency manner ie advertisng themselves or their services,hopping on threads where someone is looking to rehome a pet offering to take the animal or even just creating threads to rehome animals.

    They are however welcome to join any discussion that they want to add to as long as they post in a personal capacity and not an agency one.

    We have also decided that recommending rescues is also no longer allowed.This forum cannot be seen to allow recommendations of one company over another and in the case of this forum--rescue agencies,dog groomers,petshops,home sitting,dog walkers etc.fall into this bracket.

    There is also the issue of users recommending one rescue over another and then we end up with all sorts of legal actions being taken by the agency that was given a bad reputation--all on the basis of a single post in this forum. .We cannot have this in the forum so in order to keep things equal recommending rescues is no longer allowed.

    There is a verified representative scheme operating on boards where a company or association can ask to be verified and post in that manner after approval from the admins of boards.ie.

    Finally we are also toying with the idea of doing away with any rehoming in the forum completely.The discussion is ongoing but our decision will be relayed to all users as soon as its been made.

    So for now.

    No more recommendations of rehoming agencies and no more agencies advertising their rehoming services


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    #39
    barbiegirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭barbiegirl


    Don't advertise and give him away free you run the risk of him being used for dog fighting. Horrible, horrible people. A rescue if you can't dedicate time to him and adequetly protect your hens


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    #40
    keithb93
    Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭keithb93


    I found my dog drowning in a box in a field in the middle of winter at about 1 month old. Ive had her for nearly 4 years now. I think this country is a disgrace when it comes to dogs and cats. OP I hope you take responsibility for this dog and dont let him become another victim of animal neglect.


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    #41
    Taltos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    OP - I want to applaud you for coming on here and admitting you are not an animal lover - not an easy thing to do here.

    Can I just restate some of the points by the other posters.
    1. Your daughter - look if she pushed for this dog then you now need to play tough and insist she take care if it. Not an easy lesson - but one that will stand to her for the rest of her days. Yes you will put up with tantrums - but you have to be really hard on this point and NEVER slip - consistency is the key.
    2. Your interaction with the dog - like your daughter you have to be 100% consistent. Dogs don't like surprises - they crave attention though. Even bad attention.
    > reward ALL good behaviour - even if the dog just sits at your feet and looks at you (carry doggy treats).
    > ignore all BAD behaviour - giving out, slapping, scolding - that is still attention and will just reinforce the bad behaviour (I know counter intuitive but it's true in my experience). Look if you are pushed just use the following (again ALL have to do this) - say something like "Too Bad" and turn away from dog - if it escalates - escort the dog to a time-out zone and leave her there - for no MORE than say 30 seconds or a minute until she calms down. She has to learn - if I am bad I am ignored...
    3. Training - there are great trainers out there - have a look.
    4. Boredom - your dog's breed needs interaction and stimulation - you will have to get creative here - or task your daughter to be. Look into agility training, verbal commands. Mental stimulation for dogs tires them out faster than physical. Physical just gets them in shape faster than us and then we can't keep up.
    5. Bad things - it is your responsbility and your daughter's to ensure that the dog cannot do any mischief including killing hens. Dogs are predatory/scaveners - and will just be true to their nature. Anything the dog does including soiling the floor overnight is really the human's fault for putting the dog into that situation. Next time the dog kills a hen - turn to your daughter and say "ok so the dog killed another hen, what can we do to keep them safe..." - remember - you create the scenario/situation the dog will do what dogs do...

    Finally, just try to spend time around the dog doing normal things. Trust me - you might surprise yourself and in 4 mts found that you have bonded to this dog. GSD's are amazing dogs to have as companions (not pets...) - my wife had one growing up and the stories she and her father tell of this gentle giant are just amazing.

    Remember - calm, warm voice. This dog already has bonded to you and that bond will keep getting stronger - be open to letting her in to you. :)


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    #42
    marley123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭marley123


    Crazy that Boards.ie have to put it mildly ZERO IDEA of the Animal Crisis in Ireland at the moment! Due to a post on Boards.ie I spotted about a dog , I was personally able to find that dog a rescue space - 48hours later & he would have been dead - appointment made to be PTS!!!

    By removing the " freedom" of speech on the Animal page - people needing to rehome are going to use the likes of Gumtre* - from which dogs are being given away for free - some Im sure to decent homes but apparently people putting on a false pretence & are using the dogs as bait dogs for dog fighting.


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    #43
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    marley123 wrote: »
    Crazy that Boards.ie have to put it mildly ZERO IDEA of the Animal Crisis in Ireland at the moment! Due to a post on Boards.ie I spotted about a dog , I was personally able to find that dog a rescue space - 48hours later & he would have been dead - appointment made to be PTS!!!

    By removing the " freedom" of speech on the Animal page - people needing to rehome are going to use the likes of Gumtre* - from which dogs are being given away for free - some Im sure to decent homes but apparently people putting on a false pretence & are using the dogs as bait dogs for dog fighting.

    A user has already been site banned for harping on about the supposedly taking away of freedom of speech and making threats of legal action against boards for this reason.
    There is NO freedom of speech on boards.ie so I suggest you read the terms and conditions you agreed to when you created your account on boards.

    For anyone who didnt bother please read the FAQ`s here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq#faq_bie_faq_guidelines

    I suggest that you drop this now.

    Now I ve already made it clear why we are doing this.We cannot be held responsible for rehoming agencies that we know nothing about ie if they try rip you off etc.

    If an agency wants official recognition on boards then they can do so and once verified as reputable by talking to the admins and getting an official recognised status then at least we would have some come back if something went wrong.


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    #44
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Ok Ive gotten a few pm`s about this new rule so Im going to clarify a few things.

    1.Rescues.At present the number of user that are involved with rescues seems to be quite large.Since we have no way to verify that these users that offer to rehome a pet are who they say they are we have no option but to put a stop to all rescue agencies offering to take animals in.
    For example in this thread there are at least 6 agencies (or those affiliated with rescues) mentioned.We cannot verify that these have even offered to take the dog but are going on posts from other users.
    This doesnt sit right with us and feel that its leaving users hoping to rehome their family pet open to being scammed.

    2.Verified Representatives.There is a scheme in place where a business can register as a verified rep and receive a status that allows them to post in a business related manner.If any rescue agency wants to go ahead with this and post in the forum as a verified rep then please contact the mods and we`ll put you in touch with the relevant people.

    3.The issue of businesses and recommending businesses.There are two issue here.

    One-businesses are not allowed to advertise their own services--this is a site wide rule and not just this forums.In the last few weeks Ive had to remove at least 5 threads of businesses advertising their own services.

    Two-Recommendations-We are going to continue to allow recommendations based on First hand experience again as per every forum on boards.This means that if you personally have dealt with the company then you can recommend them.Whats not allowed is saying that a "friend of a friends cousin" uses them and theyre brilliant.

    4.Rehoming.The rehoming thread stays as it is for the minute but may be reviewed in the future.It is however not for agencies to use (unless verified)and is only for users seeking to rehome their own pets/litters etc.

    I hope this clarifies some of the issues.


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    #45
    JustAThought
    Registered Users Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Back to the dog!!!

    A young dog that's still growing can't do all the long walks and activities an older dog can so it s important to play with them or interact with to keep them busy and their pea brains thinking!

    Have you or yor daughtertried playing Hide and Sniff with your GS! easy ! Put the dog in one spot or in another room and hide about 20 small food pellets around a room. Then let the dog in to find! When ur finds reward with praise ( good find good dog!). And s/ he gets to eat it!!! Keeps them we'll amused and busy, and sniffing games tire them out ! When s/ he finds them all give her a fewextra treats and lots of praise , and then close the door and hide another 20!!! My dog would play this 3 or 4 times and she loves it and is then happy to lie and be chilled for a while!!! it's indoors and dosnt require wellies or walking!!!

    Also. Young big dogs shouldn't get long walks as it can affect their growth, butyou can play chase the ball with them in/ outdoors and with this get them to GIVE it back; rewarding the give! Amuses them and teaches them a new skill; giving!

    Also with a GS play scent dragging games; especially in a garden but start indoors to teach the concept! tie a ( used!)sock to a piece of string or scarf and walk about with letting it bounce around hitting off lots of places in a room, or a tiny bit of meat wrapped in lots of paper and let the dog follow the scent til s/ he finds it. Again; no long walking required and exciting for the dog. Don't forget to let the dog sniff the thing first so it knows what it's looking for. Start with short distances and build up to a round the garden hunt. Reward with a treat and lots of enthusiasm when s/ he finds it !!! Lodza fun!


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