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Spies, intelligience ,counter intelligience & informers in pre Independence Ireland.

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  • 23-08-2011 1:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭


    What a topic. its come up in the 1798 thread.

    One mans spy is another man's intelligience officer.

    Treachery has a long history in Ireland and the Queen of Breffni's schenanigans with Diarmuid McMurrough may even fit the bill.

    It is controvercial so the tread should cover pre 1922 to exclude recent events or the recently deceased and their kids.

    If people stick to facts this thread should work.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Here is what came up in the 1798 thread
    MarchDub wrote: »
    It was the fact that betrayal and treachery were so endemic to Irish history and Irish insurrections that Michael Collins knew - and stated - that the only way to win the War of Independence was to break the spy system at Dublin Castle, which he did.

    Collins knew that Irish spies in the pay of the British were always willing to give the game away. There was a long history of precedent for this. And 1798 was no exception.
    slowburner wrote: »
    Were there no Irish spying on the British over the course of 1798? Counter intelligence, I suppose you could call it.
    HellsAngel wrote: »
    Well a bit of topic but my 2 cents. The spy system was and still is one of the main weapons in the hands of the occupier. Collins would have had the Fenians in mind and the secret society's such as the Whiteboys, Defenders and Molly Maguires who were all destroyed by spies.

    There were a few other posts that could kick this off nicely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Is it true the IRB tracked down the informer in Phoenix Park murders to South Africa , and was there anything interesting released under the 100 year rule thing about it

    (Sorry UK press would 't give it much coverage but remember plenty of speculation about what would be released when I was at school)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    Is it true the IRB tracked down the informer in Phoenix Park murders to South Africa , and was there anything interesting released under the 100 year rule thing about it

    (Sorry UK press would 't give it much coverage but remember plenty of speculation about what would be released when I was at school)
    The informer James Carey was shot dead on board the Melrose Castle off Cape Town, South Africa, on July 29, 1883, by Donegal man Patrick O Donnell. O'Donnell was apprehended and escorted back to London, where he was convicted of murder at the Old Bailey and hanged on December 17, 1883.

    It's a wiki but seems to be reliable as it's based on The Phoenix Murders: Conspiracy, Betrayal and Retribution. Dublin: Mercier Press.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_National_Invincibles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    I read somewhere that the Battle of Kinsale was lost due to a cousin of Red Hugh O'Donnell's been a spy who relayed the battle plans to the British. How true it is anyone's guess but they did suffer a relatively easy defeat which flew in the face of their previous victories at the Battle of the Yellow Ford, the Curlews, Clontibret etc

    Anyone any related information or insight ?





  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    In Ernie O'Malley's excellent The Singing Flame, Ernie tells of when the Four Courts blew up, among the rubble what got his attention was book containing names of spies and how much they were paid in 1798. What a history document that would make.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Born in Dublin in 1752

    Well thought of during his lifetime. A mildly successful playwright and was a producer at the Theatre Royal. Was not highly praised by critics but popular with the public and wrote the long running, Robin Hood, 1779-96 .

    Became a barrister, returned to Dublin and would have been a friend of the better known barrister John Philpott Curran

    An original member of the Society of United Irishmen and came to prominence in 1792 defending James Napper Tandy



    Reverend William Jackson was a contemporary of Thomas Paine and Lord Edward Fitzgerald was in Paris a the time of the Revolution.
    Influenced by what he saw he was commissioned by the French as a spy and sent to England and Ireland to check for likely support for an armed rebellion and agitation

    However, the British has Jackson accompanied by a solicitor in their pay and so when Jackson and the spy visited McNally in Dublin, McNally passed on the names of other supporters such as Wolfe Tone and Archibald Hamilton Rowan.

    The British intercepted correspondence and put Jackson on trial for high treason, Tone went to exile in France and Hamilton escaped from jail and fled the country

    McNally was questioned for having these contacts though he was not charged and taken into custody.
    But he knew as a rising barrister to have questions over his reputation as a revolutionary would destroy his career.
    Faced with a future prosecution and facing ruin, he turned informant.



    Like many spies he became greedy but then the Secret Service paid him badly and strung him along so money was not the main factor for his treachery.

    But still trusted by the United Irishmen he went on to represent many on them while they were on trial for their lives for high treason

    Passed the defense strategy for the Maidstone Treason Trials to the prosectution sending Father O'Quigley to the gallows.
    Encouraged John and Henry Shears to stand trial together which was a terrible strategy as the guilt of one would surely mean the guilt of the other
    Also passed the defense strategy for Robert Emmet to the Crown Prosecution.
    And these are just the main examples, there were many more.

    During his lifetime he was frequently denounced by Dublin Castle which of course played up his reputation as a defender of Irish Patriots. ;)

    Given a huge funeral and treated as a patriot by his peers. He was given the nickname "McNally the incorruptible". Later revelations would show this was one of the worst choices possible

    It was only after his death that his family applied for his pension that it came into the open that he was on payroll of the British Secret Service and the truth started to come out.

    His family recieved his pension of £300 a year and while he had a great reputation during his lifetime, forever more he'll be known for treachery and backstabbing and sending men who trusted him to the gallows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭MarchDub


    HellsAngel wrote: »
    I read somewhere that the Battle of Kinsale was lost due to a cousin of Red Hugh O'Donnell's been a spy who relayed the battle plans to the British. How true it is anyone's guess but they did suffer a relatively easy defeat which flew in the face of their previous victories at the Battle of the Yellow Ford, the Curlews, Clontibret etc

    Anyone any related information or insight ?




    There are a number of sources that suggest betrayal at Kinsale by Irish informants. The Four Masters report that ‘Some assert that a certain Irishman had sent word and information to the Lord [Mountjoy]’. They do not name the Irishman. Mountjoy’s secretary Fynes Moryson writing afterwards about the battle says that for the English “many intelligences confirmed’ the plans of both the Irish and the Spanish forces.


    The one you are probably thinking of is Brian Mac Hugh Og Mac Mahon [son in law to Ui Neill] who supposedly was given a bottle of whiskey by Sir George Carew for his spy effort. But this ‘whiskey’ part of story is doubted by historians - but Hiram Morgan in Tyrone’s Rebellion says that the rumours of bribery about Mac Mahon have credibility and he is named by an English source.


    The English did seem to know the Irish troop movements so some kind of ‘intelligence’ was likely going on . And the Spanish landing - the location of which had shifted a few times until Kinsale was decided upon - was also known within a very short time by the English. But Kinsale was not a battle that Ui Neill wanted to fight anyway. It was against his better judgement that he agreed to the Spanish landing there - and according to the Four Masters he and O’Donnell did not agree on how the battle should be conducted. And then during the combat the Spanish failed to sally forth when they – somehow – failed to hear the signal from the Irish side. The Spanish were also suffering from divisions and arguments amongst the leadership.

    All in all not a Happy Christmas event for the Irish…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    mikemac wrote: »
    Born in Dublin in 1752

    Well thought of during his lifetime. A mildly successful playwright and was a producer at the Theatre Royal. Was not highly praised by critics but popular with the public and wrote the long running, Robin Hood, 1779-96 .

    Became a barrister, returned to Dublin and would have been a friend of the better known barrister John Philpott Curran

    An original member of the Society of United Irishmen and came to prominence in 1792 defending James Napper Tandy



    Reverend William Jackson was a contemporary of Thomas Paine and Lord Edward Fitzgerald was in Paris a the time of the Revolution.
    Influenced by what he saw he was commissioned by the French as a spy and sent to England and Ireland to check for likely support for an armed rebellion and agitation

    However, the British has Jackson accompanied by a solicitor in their pay and so when Jackson and the spy visited McNally in Dublin, McNally passed on the names of other supporters such as Wolfe Tone and Archibald Hamilton Rowan.

    The British intercepted correspondence and put Jackson on trial for high treason, Tone went to exile in France and Hamilton escaped from jail and fled the country

    McNally was questioned for having these contacts though he was not charged and taken into custody.
    But he knew as a rising barrister to have questions over his reputation as a revolutionary would destroy his career.
    Faced with a future prosecution and facing ruin, he turned informant.



    Like many spies he became greedy but then the Secret Service paid him badly and strung him along so money was not the main factor for his treachery.

    But still trusted by the United Irishmen he went on to represent many on them while they were on trial for their lives for high treason

    Passed the defense strategy for the Maidstone Treason Trials to the prosectution sending Father O'Quigley to the gallows.
    Encouraged John and Henry Shears to stand trial together which was a terrible strategy as the guilt of one would surely mean the guilt of the other
    Also passed the defense strategy for Robert Emmet to the Crown Prosecution.
    And these are just the main examples, there were many more.

    During his lifetime he was frequently denounced by Dublin Castle which of course played up his reputation as a defender of Irish Patriots. ;)

    Given a huge funeral and treated as a patriot by his peers. He was given the nickname "McNally the incorruptible". Later revelations would show this was one of the worst choices possible

    It was only after his death that his family applied for his pension that it came into the open that he was on payroll of the British Secret Service and the truth started to come out.

    His family recieved his pension of £300 a year and while he had a great reputation during his lifetime, forever more he'll be known for treachery and backstabbing and sending men who trusted him to the gallows
    Very intereesting. I had heard of this fellow McNally, a total low life. "During his lifetime he was frequently denounced by Dublin Castle which of course played up his reputation as a defender of Irish Patriots" Typical deviousness of intelligence people. It's a pity that they didn't have men with the capability of Micheal Collins, Dan Breen and Vinny Byrne around in those days ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    I think I heard that Micheal Collins incredibly had a cousin from Cork, a woman, working in Dublin castle and who gathered intelligence for him. Anyone know anything about it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭MarchDub


    HellsAngel wrote: »
    I think I heard that Micheal Collins incredibly had a cousin from Cork, a woman, working in Dublin castle and who gathered intelligence for him. Anyone know anything about it ?

    More incredible than that - she was his cousin Nancy O'Brien and she had worked in the GPO. The British then gave her the job of decoding messages coming to Dublin Castle from Whitehall.

    Collins' reputed response to her telling him this was: 'In the name of Jesus how did these people ever get an empire?'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Richard Mulcahy's brother was a post office clerk in Ennis and lots of material was sent by post

    Being a suspected spy could get you shot

    Spies, Informers, and the 'Anti-Sinn Féin Society': The Intelligence War in Cork City, 1920-1921


    borgonovo.jpgAuthor's Response


    Book:
    Spies, Informers, and the 'Anti-Sinn Féin Society': The Intelligence War in Cork City, 1920-1921

    John Borgonovo
    Dublin, Irish Academic Press, 2007, ISBN: 978071652833-3; 192pp.; Price: £19.95;


    Reviewer:
    David LeesonLaurentian University, Canada

    Citation:
    David Leeson, review of Spies, Informers, and the 'Anti-Sinn Féin Society': The Intelligence War in Cork City, 1920-1921, (review no. 631)URL: http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/631
    Date accessed: Fri 19 August 2011 11:43:16 BST




    On 15 February 1921, in the city of Cork, Ireland, a military court consisting of three British Army officers assembled for the purpose of inquiring into the death of a local man the previous evening. (Such courts had been held in lieu of coroner's inquests since the passage of the Restoration of Order in Ireland Act the previous summer.) Having assembled and viewed the body, the court proceeded to take evidence from three witnesses, including Fireman Dennis Murphy, who made the following statement. 'I belong to the Cork Fire Brigade', it says:
    At 20.15 hours last night on receipt of a telephone message an ambulance was sent from Sullivan's Quay Fire Station to Tory Top Lane. I accompanied the driver. There we found lying in the road the body of the man now in the South Infirmary Mortuary. His cap was off and also his overcoat which was lying by his side. This card (produced, marked A) was lying on the overcoat. (The card about 6" by 4" has on it
    CONVICTED SPY.
    Penalty Death.
    Let all spies and traitors beware.)
    There were no signs of life in the body. We put him in the Ambulance and brought him to the South Infirmary. It was dark and I noticed no wounds on the spot. There was no one by the body when we reached it. I noticed no one and nothing to indicate what had happened. I do not know who sent the telephone message. The clothing of the deceased was not searched in my presence.
    Having considered the evidence, the court found:
    (1) that the deceased was William SULLIVAN, Aged 34, Single, an Army Pensioner residing in South Douglas Road, CORK.
    (2) that the deceased died in Top Tory Lane [sic], CORK on the night of 14th February 1921 from the effect of gunshot wounds ...
    (3) that the wounds were inflicted by persons unknown against whom the court finds a verdict of wilful murder.
    Despite this verdict, there is no record of any subsequent investigation into the killing of William Sullivan.(1)
    Sullivan was just one of at least 26 Cork citizens executed for 'spying' by the insurgent Irish Republican Army during the Irish War of Independence (1920-1).(2) These executions, and their justification, are at the heart of John Borgonovo's new book, Spies, Informers, and the 'Anti-Sinn Féin Society'. As Borgonovo explains:
    This study attempts to answer four essential questions about those events. (1) Who were the Cork city civilians shot by the IRA in 1920-21? (2) Were they informers? (3) What was the context of the killings? (4) Was the IRA intelligence network capable of identifying civilian spies operating in city? (p. 1)
    After consulting a wide variety of both published and unpublished Irish (and British) sources, and examining each case in some detail, Borgonovo has come to conclusions that are tentative, but still persuasive. At least some of these people, he argues, really were informers: while some others were genuinely under suspicion of informing; either way, in a majority of cases, there is a clear connection between their deaths and the intelligence war in Cork City.
    This is an important point because, as Borgonovo explains, some recent revisionist histories of the War of Independence have suggested that the IRA's accusations of spying often served as a mere pretext for the persecution and murder of ex-soldiers and Protestants. Borgonovo denies this revisionist thesis, and his denial is based in part on a detailed examination of the IRA's intelligence service in Cork. This, he demonstrates, was much more effective than its British counterpart, and fully capable of rooting out spies and informers in its midst. What is more, according to Borgonovo, the IRA's Cork No. 1 Brigade did not shoot first and ask questions later, as many believe: their Brigade Intelligence Officer, Florence (Florrie) O'Donoghue, took his responsibilities very seriously, and insisted on accusations of spying being proved beyond a reasonable doubt before sanctioning an execution.

    The full book review is here

    http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/631

    And an interesting site from Co Clare and there is no doubt as to where the authors sympathies lie

    Spies, traitors and double agents are as old as war itself. Patrick Kerin who was born in Knocklisgrane, Milltown Malbay in 1896 heard similar stories of the Fenians, spies, and informers when he was a young lad a century ago: “On my mothers side I had Fenian blood. Her uncle and first cousins were members of the Fenian Brotherhood; two of her cousins named O Leary, were sentenced to penal servitude for their part in what is still known in North Clare as the ‘Ballygaston Affair’[sic. Ballygasteel] where the local Fenians were led into a trap by a British spy, named Cullinane, a native of West Cork.”
    The ‘Ballygaston Affair’ as Kerin called it happened at Ballygasteel, about two miles outside Lisdoonvarna in September 1887. The Head Constable of the R.I.C. in Ennis – Whelan (29264) who was seeking promotion, hired a paid police spy named Jeremiah Patrick Callinan, a native of Kerry who lived in the area and had infiltrated the local circle of the Fenians, to organise an attack on a man named Thomas Sexton, who was unpopular at the time because of his involvement in a land dispute. On the night of 11th of September 1887 Callinan led the unsuspecting Fenians into a trap, and as they approached Sexton’s house they were surprised by Head Constable Whelean and a large group of R.I.C. men. A struggle ensued, three of the R.I.C. constables were wounded and Head Constable Whelean was killed in the affray. Eight of the Fenians were arrested and sentenced to four years penal servitude each. Cullinane appeared as a Crown witness – and disappeared afterwards into a presumably well paid retirement afterwards. Needless to say Head Constable Whelean never got the promotion he had been seeking!.
    I.R.A. Counter-Intelligence
    However republicans were not idle while the R.I.C. and British Army gathered information on them many I.R.A. leaders had moles inside the British forces who were passing them intelligence information and were able to reveal the identities of suspected spies. A British soldier – Sergeant Martin Doyle who was stationed in Ennis Barracks, who had won the Victoria Cross during the First World War was providing the I.R.A. in Ennis with intelligence information. R.I.C. Constable Tom Healy, who was clerk to the R.I.C. County Inspector in Ennis was also passing highly important intelligence information to Michael Brennan in East Clare. At least two other members of the R.I.C. in Clare Constable Carroll, Ruan and Constable Buckley, New Market On Fergus were giving information to the I.R.A. Major Reynolds a member of F. Company of the Auxiliaries originally stationed in Dublin Castle before his transfer to Clare was supplying detailed and accurate intelligence information to I.R.A. Headquarters in Dublin in return for payment.
    During the War of Independence Richard Mulcahy’s brother Patrick an ex-British soldier worked as a clerk in Ennis Post Office was kept busy monitoring R.I.C. and British Army communications and passing information to the Mid Clare Brigade of the I.R.A.
    “Another form of assistance was the taking of important police letters passing through the post. The bulky official envelopes were seldom important, but I became familiar with the handwriting of R.I.C. confidential clerk, D.I.‘s and C.I. letters in their handwriting were always of interest. I could also recognise disguised handwriting on envelopes addressed to the police and invariably took such letters They usually contained information of volunteer activity from some local spy or, sometimes, a disgruntled Volunteer. One such capture resulted in the banishment of one man from Clare. Usually however, such letters were unsigned, but contained correct information.”


    A priest and his housekeeper



    Fr. Michael Hayes & Johanna Slattery

    On the 5th of October 1920 the I.R.A. ambushed an R.I.C. patrol at Feakle post office, killing two members of the R.I.C. The ambush was immediately condemned by the local local Catholic Priest Fr. Michael Hayes, a firm political opponent of republicanism according to I.R.A. Veteran Thomas Tuohy:

    “After the Feackle ambush the local Parish Priest, Fr. Hayes, a violent imperialist who regularly entertained members of the enemy forces, strongly denounced the I.R.A. from the pulpit. He referred to us as a murder gang, and declared that any information, which he could get, would be readily passed on to the British authorities and that he would not desist until the last of the murders was strung by the neck. This denunciation led to unpleasant consequences and for some time services at which he officiated were boycotted by most of the congregation.”

    After Fr. Hayes having publicly exposed his willingness to give information to the British, and his boycott by local republican sympathisers, his housekeeper Johanna Slattery a native of Tipperary came under suspicion. Miss Slattery was kept under close observation by the members of Cumann Na mBann in the village until she was abducted by the I.R.A. on the 23rd of October and taken against her will first to Tipperary where she was issued with a warning not to return to Clare. Ignoring this she returned to Feakle two weeks later with an escort of R.I.C. and British Soldiers as a bodyguard. However she seems to have taken some notice of the danger posed by continuing her activities and from then on she gave the I.R.A. little cause for concern and was not interfered with.
    Miss. Slattery was extremely fortunate not to have been executed.

    A Cork Woman got executed




    A female spy Mrs. Lindsey was later captured and executed as a suspected spy by the I.R.A. in Cork. The East Clare Brigade of the I.R.A. apparently decided it would make for bad propaganda if they executed a woman, similarly if Fr. Hayes had not been a Catholic priest he would almost certainly have been abducted. He was eventually removed from Feakle and posted as the parish priest of Sixmilebridge in 1921

    http://www.warofindependence.info/?page_id=7
    Óg Ó Ruairc, Pádraig

    Pádraig Óg Ó Ruairc is originally from Co. Clare but now lives in Cork. He works seasonally for the Irish Heritage Service at Fort Charles in Kinsale and is currently researching the Anglo-Irish Truce for a PhD in the University of Limerick. He is the administrator for the website www.warofindependence.net a resource page dedicated to making public new research about the War of Independence in Clare and Galway.

    To visit Pádraig's website, please click the underlined link: Pádraig Óg Ó'Ruairc.

    http://www.mercierpress.ie/padraigogoruairc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    The story of Mrs Lindsay and her chauffer
    News that the IRA was preparing for action soon became common knowledge amongst the local population. One resident of the area, who lived just outside the village of Coachford at Leemont House, was Mrs Mary Lindsay, a woman with strong Loyalist convictions. Upon hearing of the IRA's preparations, she travelled to the military barracks at Ballincollig and informed the British authorities of what she knew.
    The barracks in Ballincollig was occupied by troops from the 1st Battalion of the Manchester Regiment. Their commanding officer, Colonel Dowling, decided to launch an attack against the IRA. At around 3.30p.m. a column of British troops under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Garret Evans left the barracks for Dripsey village. At Dripsey the troops dismounted from their lorries, divided into five groups and set out to surround the ambush party. The IRA had scouts posted and one of these saw the approaching troops and alerted his comrades. The officer in charge of the ambush ordered a withdrawal, but firing soon broke out. Eight members of the IRA (five of whom were wounded) and two civilians were captured and brought to Ballincollig barracks. Two of the more seriously wounded IRA men were subsequently moved to the military hospital in Victoria Barracks. The others were later transferred to the military detention barracks in Cork where they awaited trial by military court.









    On 8th. February the trial of eight of the ten men captured at Dripsey opened in the gymnasium of the military detention barracks (two others - Captain James Barrett and Volunteer Denis Murphy - were still being detained in the military hospital). As a matter of principle, Republicans who were captured and brought to trial refused to recognise or acknowledge British courts and claimed that they, as citizens of the Irish Republic, were only subject to laws that were passed by Dail Eireann. On this occasion, as the defendants would be liable to suffer the death penalty, brigade headquarters decided to test the legality of the military courts and sanctioned the appointment of defence counsel for the men. The defendants were;
    Volunteers Thomas O'Brien, Patrick O'Mahoney, Timothy McCarthy, John Lyons, Jeremiah O'Callaghan and Daniel O'Callaghan, Eugene Langtry (civilian) and Denis Sheehan (civilian).
    The military court consisted of a colonel and two majors of the British army. When the trial opened, the accused pleaded not guilty to the charges. The proceedings lasted two days. Volunteer Jeremiah O'Callaghan together with Eugene Langtry and Denis Sheehan, both of whom had no connection with the IRA, were found not guilty and released. The remaining defendants were found guilty and sentenced to death.
    Of the two men still detained in the military hospital, Captain James Barrett died while still a prisoner on 22 March 1922. Volunteer Denis Murphy stood trial in Victoria Barracks on 9 March. He was found guilty and sentenced to death, but this sentence was later commuted to one of 25 years' imprisonment.
    The IRA had discovered that Mrs Lindsay was the person who had supplied the military authorities with information about the ambush and, following the sentencing of the men involved in that operation, they decided on a course of action that they hoped would prevent the executions taking place. On 17 February the IRA surrounded Leemont House and abducted Mrs Lindsay and James Clarke, who was employed as her servant. On the evening of Saturday 26 February Volunteer Michael Ingerton, an IRA dispatch rider who still had the appearance of teenager, cycled past the residence of General Strickland outside Victoria Barracks and, while doing so, dropped an envelope from his pocket. One of the two sentries on duty outside the general's house noticed the envelope fall to the ground and went to retrieve it in order to return it to its owner. On reaching the envelope he noticed that it was address to 'General Strickland, Victoria Barracks'. The man who had delivered it had cycled out of sight. In the envelope was a letter from Mrs Lind­say which read:
    Dear Sir Peter,
    I have just heard that some of the prisoners taken at Dripsey are to be executed on Monday and I write to get you to use your influence to prevent this taking place and try and reprieve them - I am a prisoner as I am sure you will know and I have been told that it will be a very serious matter for me if these men are executed. I have been told that my life will be forfeited for theirs as they believe that I was the direct cause of their capture. I implore you to spare these men for my sake.
    Yours very truly,
    M. Lindsay.
    A covering letter was attached to Mrs Lindsay's correspondence:
    To General Strickland,
    Sixth Battalion Headquarters,
    Sixth Southern Division,
    Victoria Barracks, Cork.
    We are holding Mrs Mary Lindsay and her Chauffeur, James Clarke as hostages. They have been convicted of spying and are under sentence of death. If the five of our men taken at Dripsey are executed on Monday morning as announced by your office, the two hostages will be shot.
    Irish Republican Army
    On receiving the letters General Strickland discussed the situation with General Sir Neville Macready, who was the commander-in-chief of British forces in Ireland. Both men doubted that the IRA would go so far as to execute a woman and decided that the executions should proceed.
    Early on the morning of 28 February, a large crowd gathered outside the gates of the military detention barracks where the widow of Tomas MacCurtain had erected an altar to pray for those who were about to die. At eight o'clock a volley of shots rang out from inside the barrack walls. As the crowds outside the barracks slowly began to disperse more firing was heard at eight fifteen and at half-past eight. Rather than execute the men all at once, the military authorities had decided to execute them at intervals of fifteen minutes.
    On the night of the executions the IRA launched a number of attacks against British forces at different locations throughout Cork city, which resulted in six British soldiers being killed and four being wounded. Following the trial of Volunteer Denis Murphy on 9 March Mrs Lindsay and her servant James Clarke were executed by the IRA.

    http://homepage.eircom.net/~corkcounty/Timeline/Dripsey.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    William Joyce better known as Lord Haw, Haw was from a family of Catholic unionists in Galway and it is said although a teenager, he tried to spy for the British. It was some ironic justice that the same people later ended up hanging him :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    HellsAngel wrote: »
    William Joyce better known as Lord Haw, Haw was from a family of Catholic unionists in Galway and it is said although a teenager, he tried to spy for the British. It was some ironic justice that the same people later ended up hanging him :D


    His father got relocated because of his actions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    His father got relocated because of his actions.
    Yes, I believe so, but now we'll have some West Brit coming on calling it ' ethnic cleansing ' in Galway by the IRA !!!!!!


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