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oscarBravo's "infractions" and impartiality

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    #182
    jawlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭jawlie


    Brendan777 wrote: »
    I tired my best to have a discussion with both Oscar and Tim and all I recieved was abusive and childish PMs. Also my interest is not in winning people over, its in constructive political discussion. However, ive said this before nad I shall say it again, it seems to me that a lot of members of this forum (Oscar and Tim are prime examples) are more interested in point scoring than in learning, debating, discussing. It is rather frustrating when in the attempt to have a discussion a petty power hungry individual closes the thread and then proceeds to send condensending and abusive PMs to your inbox.

    So Overheal if my descent into the language of the petty offended you I apologise. It was not my intention to offend.

    However if anyone is interested in creating a mature thread where these issues can be discussed in a respectful and intelligent manner please let me know. I would be most interested in conversing is such an environment.


    Regards


    Brendan

    Oscar bravo's style can come across as aggressive and bullying, as has been pointed out earlier in this thread. It does seem obvious that his brief responses to quite well thought out and lengthy posts, aggressively challenging the author on one point and ignoring the rest, amply demonstrates his lack of interest in the actual discussion and shows his preference for bullying and controlling and baiting guys.
    Overheal wrote: »
    maybe we should leave politics and all politic subfora unmoderated for a period of one week and see how it goes :rolleyes:

    Brendan you almost won me until you used a term like "I kicked his ass" - its meant to be an engaging, intellectual debate, not a sparring match. this is not fox.

    No one is suggesting that the politics forums should be unmoderated, but it would be great if they could be moderated by people who are not keyboard warriors and trolls who try to provoke contributors into intemperate responses.

    Of course moderators are human, and none of us gets everything right all the time, but Obscr Bravo does seem to be unusually aggressive and bullying more than just occasionally. It is especially telling that he has not responded to the specific instances as outlined earlier in this thread, the hallmark of a bully to (i) accuse his victims of the very vice(s) of which he himself is guilty and (ii) to run away when challenged.

    I myself do not contribute to the politics forums and consider them not places I want to contribute while they are moderated by such a rude, immature and biased moderator.


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    #183
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    IRLConor wrote: »
    Well, I went back to check on the post and it has a yellow card beside it, not a red. Warning, not infraction.

    He didn't call the poster a xenophobe. He called the poster's post xenophobic. The former would be attacking the poster, the latter attacking the post.

    See the difference?
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: PLEASE, PLEASE GO AWAY. I'm sure their's some other forum where you can find someone of similiar mind to yourself and you can both waffle on eternally about how long a length of string is etc, etc.

    IRLConor wrote: »
    You were passing comment on my supposed attitude towards public transport* rather than dealing with the content of my posts.

    It doesn't need to be abuse to be personal.

    And again, you only got a warning, not even an infraction. It's the tiniest of tiny moderator actions. Why anyone would whine about it is beyond me.

    * and being utterly wrong in the process too
    If it was such a tiny infraction then obviously oscarBravo shouldn't have bothered his butt giving one in the first place :rolleyes:.


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    #184
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: PLEASE, PLEASE GO AWAY. I'm sure their's some other forum where you can find someone of similiar mind to yourself and you can both waffle on eternally about how long a length of string is etc, etc.

    Alternatively, you could leave. Or you could stay and abide by the rules. Either way, your choice. I'm staying though.
    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    If it was such a tiny infraction then obviously oscarBravo shouldn't have bothered his butt giving one in the first place :rolleyes:.

    But then the poster wouldn't know that they're being told to behave. The warning mechanism is a useful way of having a proper record of that kind of thing.

    It's also a useful record for other moderators to take into account if someone causes trouble in another forum.


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    #185
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    IRLConor wrote: »
    Alternatively, you could leave. Or you could stay and abide by the rules. Either way, your choice. I'm staying though.



    But then the poster wouldn't know that they're being told to behave. The warning mechanism is a useful way of having a proper record of that kind of thing.

    It's also a useful record for other moderators to take into account if someone causes trouble in another forum.


    PLEASE, PLEASE GO AWAY. I'm sure their's some other forum where you can find someone of similiar mind to yourself and you can both waffle on eternally about how long a length of string is etc, etc.


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    #186
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    PLEASE, PLEASE GO AWAY.

    Nope. Sorry, I'm not going to leave.
    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    I'm sure their's some other forum where you can find someone of similiar mind to yourself and you can both waffle on eternally about how long a length of string is etc, etc.

    When did I do anything even remotely similar to waffling about the length of a string*? All I've done is explain the facts of boards.ie life. I'm sorry if that bothers you.




    * Every programmer know that the answer is string.length() or length($string) or similar. ;)


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    #187
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Am I alone in finding it ironic that SlabMurphy is trying to silence someone who disagrees with him?


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    #188
    gandalf
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    Isn't that normally what the chuckies do ;)


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    #189
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    gandalf wrote: »
    Isn't that normally what the chuckies do ;)

    Accusation of being an Orangeman in 3.. 2.. 1...


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    #190
    jawlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭jawlie


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Am I alone in finding it ironic that SlabMurphy is trying to silence someone who disagrees with him?

    Am I alone (note the heavy sarcasm) that OscarBravo blithely ignores any of the posters who question his abuse of power. Oh, would they bring back the double decker buses with conductors for him!


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    #191
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Am I alone in finding it ironic that SlabMurphy is trying to silence someone who disagrees with him?

    No not trying to silence him, just asked him to go away and find someone more interested in his type of discussion, arguin forever on how long a length of string is etc.

    Now if I wanted to silence him I would have asked the mods to apply the tatics you misuse as a mod on politics. I would have asked the mods to start issuing infractions for any particulair reason they can think of in order to try and silence him. Failing that I would have asked them to ban him.
    jawlie wrote: »
    Am I alone (note the heavy sarcasm) that OscarBravo blithely ignores any of the posters who question his abuse of power. Oh, would they bring back the double decker buses with conductors for him!
    Yes indeed, it's indicative of him and his attitude. He hasn't posted for several pages back to refute or explain his actions but just comes on with a sarcastic one line comment. How such a personcan be seen to be fit to moderate a politics forum is beyond me.


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    #192
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    IRLConor wrote: »
    Accusation of being an Orangeman in 3.. 2.. 1...

    Nah you'd be banned if ye did that. *mandatory wink smiley to soften sectarian jibe on back order*


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    #193
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    gandalf wrote:
    Isn't that normally what the chuckies do
    YET AGAIN - " mods automatically agreeing with mods, "
    IRLConor wrote: »
    Accusation of being an Orangeman in 3.. 2.. 1...

    :rolleyes: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


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    #194
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Nah you'd be banned if ye did that. *mandatory wink smiley to soften sectarian jibe on back order*
    EXACTLY.


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    #195
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,808 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    jawlie wrote: »
    Am I alone (note the heavy sarcasm) that OscarBravo blithely ignores any of the posters who question his abuse of power. Oh, would they bring back the double decker buses with conductors for him!

    iirc this isnt the first Oscar Bravo thread we've had in feedback and while im not going to bother to right now having just been through the airsoft thing; youre welcome to read through and see if OB explained himself to your satisfaction in any of these threads:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055279187&highlight=oscar+bravo
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055193614&highlight=oscar+bravo
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055148331&highlight=oscar+bravo

    mods in general: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055121460&highlight=oscar+bravo

    I wager there are a few more but go figure.
    No one is suggesting that the politics forums should be unmoderated, but it would be great if they could be moderated by people who are not keyboard warriors and trolls who try to provoke contributors into intemperate responses.

    Whew, leaves me out as a candidate so :pac:


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    #196
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Hmmm

    OB does seem to dish out a disproportionally large number of bans and infractions alright.......


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    #197
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    Yes indeed, it's indicative of him and his attitude. He hasn't posted for several pages back to refute or explain his actions but just comes on with a sarcastic one line comment. How such a personcan be seen to be fit to moderate a politics forum is beyond me.
    I'm sorry, I missed the bit where I'm required to explain my actions to you. I answer to the people who own this site. When they ask me to explain my actions, I explain them. When they ask me to do things differently, I do things differently.
    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    YET AGAIN - " mods automatically agreeing with mods, "
    Or, just maybe, another mod disagreeing with you.


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    #198
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,808 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    Hmmm

    OB does seem to dish out a disproportionally large number of bans and infractions alright.......
    .........so the mods not dishing out infractions arent doing their job?
    OB wrote:
    I'm sorry, I missed the bit where I'm required to explain my actions to you. I answer to the people who own this site. When they ask me to explain my actions, I explain them. When they ask me to do things differently, I do things differently.

    Sadly for some he has a point :confused: somehow I wager Mr Bravo has appeared on the sysadmin radar a few times; since they havent de-modded him he must be doing something they approve of.


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    #199
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Overheal wrote: »
    .........so the mods not dishing out infractions arent doing their job?

    No, that's not what I'm inferring and you know it.

    Perhaps OB is being too harsh with his infractions


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    #200
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    Hmmm

    OB does seem to dish out a disproportionally large number of bans and infractions alright.......

    If you were a mod of Politics and wanted to keep it afloat, you would too.


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    #201
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,808 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    No, that's not what I'm inferring and you know it.

    Perhaps OB is being too harsh with his infractions

    Or moderating a forum on Politics is more volatile than most? Lets face it: its Politics. One of the big 3 unspoken subjects (generic pub courtesy rule along with Religion and another im usually too drunk to recall) because lo and behold, it usually ends up in fights: shouting matches and the like. I once tried to have a discussion on american politics with an elderly man in a pub a couple years ago and he nearly decked me :rolleyes:

    You could do a lot worse than the politics forum that OB caters for here at boards.ie: ever been to the pulse site recently? No better way to get my blood flowing for the gross amount of bullying and bias taking place there. Honestly: try out other websites just to get a feel for how crazy it is out there. In comparison boards is incredibly stable.


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    #202
    berliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭berliner


    Oscar bravo give out infractions simply because he disagrees with some peoples opinion's. It's ridiculous.


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    #203
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Peeps should read oBs sig and take the hint.
    "I've always been like this, since I was young. I'm a truculent bigot, I revel in scum."

    Mike.


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    #204
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    people should move on and get over it


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    #205
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    berliner wrote: »
    Oscar bravo give out infractions simply because he disagrees with some peoples opinion's. It's ridiculous.
    I wondered when you'd show up here.

    Yes, I infracted you just because I disagree with your opinions. The fact that your opinions are trolling and xenophobic don't enter into it.


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    #206
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,808 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    how are people ever to work out their xenophobia though if they arent allowed to speak of it?


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    #207
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Counselling. Beats trolling any day.


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    #208
    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Well, I think this thread is done.
    B


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    #209
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Done to death.


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