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When Good Brets Go Bad

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  • #62
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    rovert wrote: »
    WOW Mr.Nice Guy can play devil’s advocate (because he does know anything about the situation.)

    It's called not jumping to conclusions. You should try it some time. ;)
    rovert wrote:
    I do but going my both parties respoonses

    And as has been explained to you the responses only contain what answers the interviewee chooses to give. For example, take a look at interviews Shawn Michaels gave not long after Survivor Series 1997. Did everyone ascertain what really happened in Montreal due to these interviews? Far from it.
    rovert wrote:
    As you don’t know about anyone else on the list? I guessing. Quite the Wrestling historian you are.

    I never claimed to be a wrestling historian but I don't need to be. I don't need to know about every Northern Irish footballer in history to know George Best was better than all of them. The cream rises to the top you see.
    rovert wrote:
    Sorry but Canadian Wrestling has a better legacy than Northern Irish football. How can you claim the book is nonsense when you haven’t read it, don’t understand the ranking system or a decent knowledge of Canadian Wrestling history. So you've no sense of perspective when it comes to this list. Id put more stock Greg Oliver's opinion than yours as he did research everyone on the list and interview many, many people who know more than you about Canadian wrestling history. I gave you to rank them but you didn’t. You are showing bias here.

    A few points here. I could use Irish football rather than Northern Irish football if it would please you. The analogy and point would still stand that the cream rises to the top.

    And as has been pointed out to you already, you don't need to read a book with a nonsensical claim in it to acknowledge the nonsensical claim. I don't need to read a book which says Elvis and Princess Di are living on an island in Tahiti right now to know it's BS, understand?

    I love how I am supposedly showing bias when earlier you were the one saying Bret has no class unlike Oliver! Keep on digging that hole though rovert.
    rovert wrote:
    Stupid analogy. Once again you haven’t read the book and the idea you have of it is completely simplistic. The book is one of the most researched books in Wrestling history.

    Sure keep telling yourself that. You should have kept the receipt mate! :pac:
    rovert wrote:
    You put too much stock a maybe when nothing points to possibly it might be true.

    Most people acknowledge there are two sides to every story!

    Listen we can go back and forth on this all day and I'm sure you'd enjoy that since you don't seem to have many good books to keep you occupied, but we'll just have to agree to differ.


  • #63
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    It's called not jumping to conclusions. You should try it some time. ;)

    Its not jumping to conclusions again this is not the first this issue has raised it's head, the book is five years old.

    You are jumping to conclusions about the other wrestlers on the list.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    And as has been explained to you the responses only contain what answers the interviewee chooses to give. For example, take a look at interviews Shawn Michaels gave not long after Survivor Series 1997. Did everyone ascertain what really happened in Montreal due to these interviews? Far from it.

    Dave Meltzer did in almost complete detail within two weeks after the incident, using a similar level of research Greg Oliver did. Read Bret Harts book for that story.Everyone in Wrestling knew HBK was full of it at the time.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a wrestling historian but I don't need to be. I don't need to know about every Northern Irish footballer in history to know George Best was better than all of them. The cream rises to the top you see.

    As George Best was far in the way the best player they ever had in a sallow talent pool. He also kept a high media profile post-football career. Best's peak didn’t last so long and people lamented that fact due him going off the rails. In some ways Montreal and Owen's death magnified Bret's career.

    Again Canadian has a rich history in Wrestling almost unparalleled by most other sports and countries.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    A few points here. I could use Irish football rather than Northern Irish football if it would please you. The analogy and point would still stand that the cream rises to the top.

    Empty analogy in this case. Sounds like you've fallen for Bret's marketing catchphrase.

    MAKE BRET NO.1 AS WWE RELEASED A DVD ABOUT HIM AND I WATCHED IT LOL sums up your mentality.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    And as has been pointed out to you already, you don't need to read a book with a nonsensical claim in it to acknowledge the nonsensical claim. I don't need to read a book which says Elvis and Princess Di are living on an island in Tahiti right now to know it's BS, understand?.

    The claim is not even on that on that level. You are really going to ludicrous extremes to try to discredit a book you haven’t read and you coming across as undulying defensive.

    The claim isn’t nonsense as you’ve yet to give any factual reasons why the claim is nonsense.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    I love how I am supposedly showing bias when earlier you were the one saying Bret has no class unlike Oliver! Keep on digging that hole though rovert.

    I was referring to Bret's conduct at the dinner. I’m not the only person who thought it was classless. I have shown more compassion for Bret than anyone in this thread. So you can’t get me on that.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Most people acknowledge there are two sides to every story! .

    But the key thing you actually don’t.
    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Listen we can go back and forth on this all day and I'm sure you'd enjoy that since you don't seem to have many good books to keep you occupied, but we'll just have to agree to differ.

    Your views are retarded as you know nothing about the contents of the book. Yet you make judgments about it. You know nothing about Canadian wrestling history or even Bret's own views of Sky Low Low's place in history.

    You are completely uninformed on this issue and add little to the discusssion.


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