Jose Aldo requests his release from the UFC

Mr. Manager wrote: »

I plenty understand how it works, thanks. All of the above is what I hate about what the UFC is becoming.

In the past you had it arranged by the matchmakers - Fighter A vs. Fighter B - booked. Then they build the hype.

Not the other way around.

All this bullsh*t of people calling out "money" fights is ruining the legitimacy of belts/divisions. ****.

Why f*cking have belts when they mean jack sh*t. Just start matching up people with who the crowd wants to see. Open a poll on UFC.com and let people vote. Done.

If my boss tells me I'm getting a promotion based on the merit of my work up until that date I'm going to believe him and continue to do my job.
If my boss tells me I'm getting a promotion based on the merit of my work up until that date and doesn't give me the promotion because I didn't work even harder than I already was (after telling me already), I'm going to be pretty pissed off.

Aldo could have had superfights back when he was champion, he spoke about it, but he feared what a loss in one would do to his legacy. I cant think of one time when the UFC turned down a champion vs champion superfight, when the champion has beaten most of the division already. This is not a new thing, they have even given fighters coming off losses title shots when they change divisions.

No matter how much people don’t want to accept it, McGregor has pretty much cleared out the 145 division. The only fights left for him are rematches or a guy who just dropped down in weight after a 3 fight losing streak. This is not a situation where Woodley got an (debatably) undeserved title shot, has fought practically no one in the top 10 and goes looking for a 'money fight'.

People just don't see things clearly when it comes to Conor.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor v Eddie is one.

I fully expect Cruz v DJ within the next 18 months, purely on the basis Cruz and DJ both want bigger money and there's not a lot left for Mighty Mouse at flyweight.

I could see a few others potentially. DC has said he's willing to fight Stipe. Depending what happens with Jon Jones, that might actually come to fruition because LHW is really shallow. Gustafsson and Bader would be decent fights for him but outside of that not a lot.

If GSP ever comes back, there's a fair chance it's to take on Bisping or Conor.


Conor is setting a trend in his willingness to take risks and the other champions now have a precedent they can argue with the UFC. Put it this way - if DJ v Cruz does happen, there's no way they strip the Flyweight belt.

So in short, the answer was precisely 0 superfights so far. Great

Deleted User wrote: »

Were you not complaining about people asking for these fights anyway? Or did I misread something?

Open to correction if someone wants to trawl through my post history but as far as my memory serves me I've been against these makey-upy fights.

I've no issue with someone moving up/down a weight class for a shot at the belt . My point was there has been zero of this going on as one poster mentioned.

McGregor/Diaz is an anti-superfight. Total joke shop.

Foxtrol wrote: »

Aldo could have had superfights back when he was champion, he spoke about it, but he feared what a loss in one would do to his legacy. I cant think of one time when the UFC turned down a champion vs champion superfight, when the champion has beaten most of the division already. This is not a new thing, they have even given fighters coming off losses title shots when they change divisions.

Actually, Aldo has said that when he wanted to move up and fight he was told he would have to drop the belt before doing so.

No matter how much people don’t want to accept it, McGregor has pretty much cleared out the 145 division. The only fights left for him are rematches or a guy who just dropped down in weight after a 3 fight losing streak. This is not a situation where Woodley got an (debatably) undeserved title shot, has fought practically no one in the top 10 and goes looking for a 'money fight'.

Again, this is an attempt to excuse a situation where a division champion is going to have his third fight outside of a division, while refusing to fight the number 1 contender in his division.

People just don't see things clearly when it comes to Conor.

We agree on that for sure.

wonderfullife wrote: »

In terms of sport, well you've got Max Holloway, Yair Rodriguez, Anthony Pettis to give Aldo a crack.......

But realistically none of those fights could headline outside of Brazil.

Hawaii against Max?

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The problem with the UFC right now is that they are both the promoter and the sanctioning body and as a result are turning into the ****ing WWE.

Time to extend the Muhammad Ali act to MMA.

Separating the promoter and sanctioning body makes sense, on paper but I feel it would eventually lead to a complete mess like you have in boxing.

Say they make a WMMAC sanctioning body. Who handles the titles, contenders etc. Even forces co-promotion and such.
What's to stop Rizin, Bellator or even the UFC setting up with the WMMAO, then a few years later we have IWMMAO.

I don't think modelling any system on boxing s a good place to start. They has to be a better solution

TherapyBoy wrote: »

Jose & whoever are his advisors are going about this all wrong, they need to be smarter.

He should be hassling the UFC for a fight at 206, against Max or whoever. Hope McGregor wins at 205, destroy whoever he's fighting at 206 & immediately call out McGregor at lightweight. Then back to hassling the UFC for another fight at 145 or 155, whoever is top 5 & available. Every fight he takes he should be aiming for total annihilation of his opponent, no decisions or point-fighting. Cement his place undeniably as the 145 interim champ & chomping on McGregors heels for the 155 belt at every opportunity. Eventually he'll get his rematch at 145 or get a title shot at 155. If he took 155 off McGregor while 145 interim champ I think he'd have Conor's ear again.

Being honest, the way he fights recently & the way he dropped out of fights, did little promotion & generally not being a company man as champion, not to mention the messing with the drug testing that time, how did he think he would be treated if he lost his belt? He only has himself to blame. Make me want to go see you fight Jose and you'll get things the way you want again.

Great post!

Jose has an amateur mindset in a professional world.

StringerBell wrote: »

Your analysis of Jose Aldo is just ridiculous. Hardly worth a rebuttal at this point, suffice to say, you are blinded by your hate for him and it comes through in your posts too clearly. Not a hope of objectivity.

And you’re blinded by the fighter that we saw back in the WEC.

That or you have the same mentality as him and see it as being normal, moan and complain about what you don’t like rather than getting up and doing something to improve your situation.

StringerBell wrote: »

How much money can get made by a fight is not supposed to be the most important reason a fight gets made

This is factually incorrect. Combat sports are not like team sports. They are booked to make money. They have to be because unlike team sports which are self sustaining because the teams are forever, the stars in boxing or MMA are transitory so you have to lay things out in a way that maximizes earning potential or you can end up out of business like IFL, EliteXC, Affliction, Strikeforce, Pride etc. That's why the UFC is the King, they make the fights that the most people want to see.

Also, with the leveraged buyout by WME-IMG, UFC has to make $88 million in profit just to cover their interest. If they 'make' $70 million profit next year, they lose 18 mill. This year and last year they easily beat that number. But in 2014, they'd have lost their ass. It is just plain naive to think that booking to make money is a mistake.

I have sympathy for Aldo in the sense he feels he's been messed about lately, but not over the whole. There are the consistent PED rumours and the story about the tester who showed up at his camp and was threatened and forced to leave. The fact he consistently pulled out of fights, averaging one every 8 months in his time as champion. The fact he got knocked out in 13 seconds by the champion, swore blind he would jump at the chance to rematch Conor under any circumstances then turned down the fight before UFC 196. The fact he's an absolute primadonna with his outbursts about still using IVs when they're banned. I could go on. Do I understand why he'd be frustrated? I do. Is he a particularly sympathetic figure on the whole. Fu<k no, he's an asshole.

me wrote:

How much money can get made by a fight is not supposed to be the most important reason a fight gets made

Monokne wrote: »

This is factually incorrect.

It really isn't. Money is obviously a factor in fights and it is becoming a bigger one every year, but it is not supposed to be the most important reason a fight gets made.

That is factually correct.

Fair enough dude, I have no interest in getting in to a drawn out one on this. That whole agree to disagree thing works now and then I guess.