Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Whoscored.com if you click on chalkboard then touches.

As far as I can see, this just gives a picture of all the touches on the pitch and a total number. So do you just count them up yourself to get how many were within 30 yards of goal? If so, how do you measure it?

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

you click on the touches box down at the bottem first then on an individual player at the side to limit it to just their touches

Oh yeah, I mean when you have done that, it just gives you a picture of all the touches for that player. Are you just counting them yourself then to see how many are within 30 yards of goal?

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Yeah I'm assuming the pitch is to scale otherwise it would be a fairly pointless excercise collecting all that data. The average pitch is about 58 yards a half, the 18 yard line and the centre circle being 10 yards at it's furthest point you can guess round about where 30 yards is.

Cool, thanks for the explanation. I wanted to check in case there was an easier way you had for doing this, because I find it a lot of work and not that precise. Although just looking at the images is certainly still useful.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

30 yards was just an example, I could probably have made the same point with 40 yards because the games I looked over Ozil and KDB seemed to be operating closer to goal than Rooney was my main point.

I really think we would need a good bit more than one or two players compared in one or two matches before we can draw useful conclusions on this.

Bit tired of all the behind the scenes skulduggery when the shít has hit the fan over the last few years. Don't even like Mourinho but I'm all for him swinging the axe at a few of the gossips in the team.

Literally, if needs be.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Jose can axe whoever he likes as far as I'm concerned, we're in the territory now of players having too much power if they can turn on 3 managers.

What are we going to do, keep sacking managers until there's one who won't criticise them for coming 5th? Fergie would have torn their heads off.

So whoever has been leaking stuff was around under Fergie according to what was said about Jose to the press,that narrows things down considerably

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It would have to be Carrick or Rooney

I can't see anybody else in the dressing room having much clout, they are all relatively new and haven't got the medal haul to question managers like Van Gaal and Mourinho.

Players from that time,
De gea
Smalling
Jones
Valencia
Young
Carrick
Rooney

Then again could be the media making up more stuff again to sell papers

Whoever the leak is (Rooney) get the disease out of the club, Soft shower of fcuks.

Fu3k the players I say. They have served up nothing but crap for 3 years now. They blamed Moyes, SAF was blamed for leaving such a bad squad, LVG for being inflexible, how about you guys get your heads down and learn how to do the fecking basics right. Stop letting your man free into the box. Stop sending crosses into Row Z, stop making a mess of corners. How about you learn how to take free kicks so that they actually become a weapon rather than an elaborate way to give the ball back to the other team.

You don't like Jose, hand in a transfer request. Simple. There are hundreds/thousands of others who would love the chance to be where you are. You put everything in your life into getting to this point and now you are finding it a bit difficult. Man the feck up.

The team seems totally incapable of taking on board any lessons. It is always something/someones else fault. Either the manager is too timid, too hard, too pally with the players or not pally enough. The tactics are too rigid, or nobody knows what they are doing.

instead of moaning about it why not get a plan together yourselfs. If you are unsure what is being asked of you why not bring it up in training and do extra work until you do understand. Carrick wants a game, bust your balls in training so that there is no doubt who should play. And if that doesn't work, hand in a transfer request for January.


The players are unhappy? Guess what, the fans that pay the bloody wages aren't exactly over the moon either. An unlike the players, for many fans the team is the definition of their lives. Their lives revolve around it. WHen things go badly they get abuse from co-workers and friends. A bad result wrecks the mood of the whole week. So stop feeling sorry for yourselves. Grow a pair, decide what needs to be done, and do it. Struggling in a new position, sit down and watch videos of players who have done it and practice that. Corners are sh1te, then stay back after training and keep working on them until you get a decent scoring percentage.

Touch isn't great, then practice one touch until it hurts.

Otherwise feck off with your whinging. Jose is the manager, whatever he says goes. Either get on board or GTFO.

duffman13 wrote: »

This was on redcafe from back in July after Jose's first press conference.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/details-about-leaks-at-united.419544/

It stuck with me for whatever reason and points the finger of blame firmly in Rooneys direction. Worth a quick read but there appears to be a leak inside the club and the club at this stage have to know where it is coming from!

I remember reading that post on United pages also. It somewhat went along the same lines I had already thought myself from early in the season and Van Gaals reign.

I don't think Jose will stand for that at all. If found out Rooney could well be turfed out, nevermind playing his way out.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

It's amazing how these "leaks" happen with no other club

Madrid and Bayern are two for a start. They make United look like a well run Masonic lodge in comparison.

If this story of the players being unhappy with Mourinho's comments about Shaw is true then the leak needs to be gotten rid of. I have no problem with the dirt having being spilt on Moyes and LVG, they were awful managers and they needed to be gotten rid of, but it is far too early in Jose's reign to be having him publicly questioned. He needs to be given a chance to see if his style (that includes everything he does) can work.