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France vs Italy match thread.

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    #182
    Buer
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    In fairness Parisse was as likely to nail that as Haimona was.

    I know you're being tongue in cheek but it was the height of glory hunting from him. He takes on far too much at times with Italy when his team would be better served by the simpler action.


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    #183
    bilston
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Who wasn't stepping up to the plate that should have done? Haimona? McLean?

    Haimona had dropped back. I don't think it was case of them not stepping up I think they thought they were too far out.


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    #184
    Buer
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Who wasn't stepping up to the plate that should have done? Haimona? McLean?

    Either would have been better but I didn't see the scrum half check the pocket until the final pass. They were making no yardage and should have spun it several phases before that rather than risking an error in the pack.


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    #185
    thebaz
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    what a dreadful biased decision by Doyle - once again dreadful refereeing ruining it for the small guys in International rugby - Shame


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    #186
    [Deleted User]
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    That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. And I live in Louth.


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    #187
    [Deleted User]
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    MJohnston wrote: »
    I think you're all being harsh on Parisse, it took a big deflection off a head

    Good one :p


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    #188
    Larbre34
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    Hmm. So much for great leadership. He shouldve called the pattern and forced one of the kickers into position, not get frustrated and pull a stunt like that. France were there for the taking today.


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    #189
    Snickers Man
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    mansize wrote: »
    Brain fart from Parisse

    Total brain fart.

    With all the ****e we have to listen to about how much superior than us the southern hemisphere teams are (they're not; New Zealand excepted) that just shows a degree of idiocy that shows us all up.

    None of those teams would ever have let a Number 8 take a pressure kick like that. OK, you oldies will say, Zinzan Brooke did it in a world cup semi final against England but that was when they were out of sight and taking the piss, thanks to the actions of a youthful mr Lomu.

    Munster would NEVER have done something like that. They would have been patient, even if O'Gara wasn't on the field to take the kick.

    Feck's sake: the Italians had done all the hard work:mad::mad::mad:


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    #190
    Buer
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    thebaz wrote: »
    what a dreadful biased decision by Doyle - once again dreadful refereeing ruining it for the small guys in International rugby - Shame

    In fairness, Parisse was on the way down into the tackle if you're talking about the high one. It was a 50/50 to my mind and it appeared to me that he was held so correct call for me.


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    #191
    Brendan97
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    Who got Man of the Match?


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    #192
    sydthebeat
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    Haimona, palazzani and McLean are all players who should have demanded that.

    I don't know why posters are saying 'i fear for ireland in this 6n' ?
    I saw absolutely nothing there today to ha v e me worried. That France team is still all over the place and desperate at defending mauls.

    Any structured team will beat both those teams.

    France 5th and Italy 6th is my prediction.


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    #193
    Bazzo
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Haimona, palazzani and McLean are all players who should have demanded that.

    I don't know why posters are saying 'i fear for ireland in this 6n' ?
    I saw absolutely nothing there today to ha v e me worried. That France team is still all over the place and desperate at defending mauls.

    Any structured team will beat both those teams.

    France 5th and Italy 6th is my prediction.

    Haimona had dropped in to the pocket a couple phases before so the blame for that idiocy rests solely on Parisse. So disappointing from somebody who is usually one of the best in the business at every facet of the game.


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    #194
    Buer
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    I don't know why posters are saying 'i fear for ireland in this 6n' ?
    I saw absolutely nothing there today to ha v e me worried. That France team is still all over the place and desperate at defending mauls.
    .

    Yup, odd bit of flair and attacking initiative from them but they were really poor up front. That's supposedly their first choice pack against Italy at home and needed a monster kick from a needlessly conceded late penalty to win.

    I'm not sure if we'll win there but there's nothing to fear based on today. Plus we know Vakatawa is their go to tactic and we can shut him down early.


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    #195
    Flipper22
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    Buer wrote: »
    I know you're being tongue in cheek but it was the height of glory hunting from him. He takes on far too much at times with Italy when his team would be better served by the simpler action.

    Think glory hunting is harsh. I thought he was super today. He's more than capable of kicking a drop goal from there. If he'd kicked it, we'd all be dissolving into floods of adoration.


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    #196
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    In my far from expert opinion I thought France looked slightly better than they did at the WC in that for one or two minutes one or two players looked like they'd actually met each other before.
    Italy... I don't know, we struggled against them at the World Cup so it's hard to say whether they've improved or not.


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    #197
    thebaz
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    Buer wrote: »
    In fairness, Parisse was on the way down into the tackle if you're talking about the high one. It was a 50/50 to my mind and it appeared to me that he was held so correct call for me.

    yeah - that was the one - just sick of watching the smaller nations never getting the big calls in International rugby


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    #198
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?


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    #199
    Buer
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    Flipper22 wrote: »
    Think glory hunting is harsh. I thought he was super today. He's more than capable of kicking a drop goal from there. If he'd kicked it, we'd all be dissolving into floods of adoration.

    I'm more than capable of kicking a drop goal from there but I wouldn't in a match.

    A no. 8 taking a shot at goal for the win, after the clock has gone dead in a huge test match is absolutely glory hunting, in my opinion.

    That was completely absurd decision whether he got it or not. He had no business even being back there. He's badly needed up front to eke out yards, protect their ball and stand in the line to hinder any French chase to block.


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    #200
    Stheno
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    my friend wrote: »
    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?

    Eh what?


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    #201
    Bazzo
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    my friend wrote: »
    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?

    Lol, what?


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    #202
    Narcissus
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    my friend wrote: »
    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?

    we haven't even touched a blade of grass yet! :mad::P


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    #203
    Flipper22
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    Buer wrote: »
    I'm more than capable of kicking a drop goal from there but I wouldn't in a match.

    A no. 8 taking a shot at goal for the win, after the clock has gone dead in a huge test match is absolutely glory hunting, in my opinion.

    That was completely absurd decision whether he got it or not. He had no business even being back there. He's badly needed up front to eke out yards, protect their ball and stand in the line to hinder any French chase to block.

    He's not just any no. 8 though, he's a brilliant footballer. I think he's as likely to get that as anyone else they had on the pitch.


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    #204
    Buer
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    Flipper22 wrote: »
    He's not just any no. 8 though, he's a brilliant footballer. I think he's as likely to get that as anyone else they had on the pitch.

    Ah come on. If he was as good a kicker as the other guys, he'd be given the kicking duties at least once in the few hundred games he has played as a professional.

    There was specialist kickers who are appointed for these tasks and he's not one of them even if he is a ridiculously talented forward.


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    #205
    Tox56
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    my friend wrote: »
    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?

    The last two weeks on the boards rugby forum in one comment


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    #206
    Boscoirl
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    Imagine if heaslip attempted a drop goal in that situation? The Internet old melt in Ireland and he used to practice them in the warm up


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    #207
    my friend
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    Lol, what?

    Okay, so call each game


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    #208
    .ak
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    Boscoirl wrote: »
    Imagine if heaslip attempted a drop goal in that situation? The Internet old melt in Ireland and he used to practice them in the warm up

    Every forward practices them at training... Because deep down every forward wants to be a back.


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    #209
    Swan Curry
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    I don't think there's anything that I would back Kelly Haimona to do better than Sergio Parisse. Maybe some kind of pie eating contest.


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    #210
    TeoReid
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    .ak wrote: »
    Every forward practices them at training... Because deep down every forward wants to be a back.

    And be like Matt Dunning


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    #211
    gamma001
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    my friend wrote: »
    Could Ireland be in line for the wooden spoon?

    lol, if Ireland beat Wales we have a very good chance of winning the 6n. We have nothing to fear playing France away next week


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