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Stallingrad · 23-09-2014 2:29pm

Akrasia wrote: »

Any new laptop on windows 8 is going to be mind numbingly slow for the first day or two while it downloads, configures and installs all the necessary updates.

It's a pain in the hole, but can't be avoided really.

The problem here is the updates are not successful, then reverting takes forever, or goes on an endless loop.

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branners69 · 23-09-2014 2:43pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

The problem here is the updates are not successful, then reverting takes forever, or goes on an endless loop.

I read online that one lad's laptop was reverting for over 12 hours, so I decided to refresh mine. It took 20 minutes or so and just meant I had to reinstall a few things.

Akrasia · 23-09-2014 2:48pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

The problem here is the updates are not successful, then reverting takes forever, or goes on an endless loop.

That happened to me before. You can either wait for ages and hope for the best, or try and restart the install again. It can be a pain but if you try holding f12 when the computer is restarting, that usually brings you into a recovery mode where you can re-install windows from the recovery partition and try the updating process again. (if F12 doesn't work, try f8, f9.. etc
or sometimes even ctrl alt and delete)

Stallingrad · 23-09-2014 2:53pm

branners69 wrote: »

I read online that one lad's laptop was reverting for over 12 hours, so I decided to refresh mine. It took 20 minutes or so and just meant I had to reinstall a few things.

Mind if I ask how do you reinstall things? Mine was a new Assus laptop that doesn't come with anything?

beauf · 23-09-2014 3:05pm

Are you doing this over WiFi or via Ethernet?

Stallingrad · 23-09-2014 3:08pm

beauf wrote: »

Are you doing this over WiFi or via Ethernet?

Wifi.

branners69 · 23-09-2014 3:21pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

Mind if I ask how do you reinstall things? Mine was a new Assus laptop that doesn't come with anything?

When you turn on the laptop hold in F9 (someone else has said F12) then you get the windows logo and eventually this screen loads.

I selected the middle option and refreshed it!

beauf · 23-09-2014 3:26pm

On my desk top the update failed, but it recovered quickly enough. But its hard wired to UPC so updates come down really fast.

jive · 23-09-2014 3:54pm

Rather than start a new thread does this seem a good deal? http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00K1VB368?cache=e93c7da40eba82eb9965a4640eb42a2c&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1411483882&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

I know you can get the similar spec for less with lenovo but that spec with a full HD IPS display seems excellent value to me?! Slim and relatively light laptop too with good build quality

balfe1990 · 23-09-2014 5:24pm

jive wrote: »

Rather than start a new thread does this seem a good deal? http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00K1VB368?cache=e93c7da40eba82eb9965a4640eb42a2c&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1411483882&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

I know you can get the similar spec for less with lenovo but that spec with a full HD IPS display seems excellent value to me?! Slim and relatively light laptop too with good build quality

There's pretty good Dell on sale that they're discussing over at HUKD. It's on sale and with two seperate 10% off codes brings the cost down to around 730€.

Only issue is, the VIP codes don't seem to be working for Irish users.

Specs:

Intel Core i7 Haswell CPU
16GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 5400rpm SATA Hybrid Drive (with 8gb cache)
1080p Touch Display
nVidia GeForce 750M 2GB DDR5 GPU

Link.

If anyone has a fix, I'd appreciate it, because I'm now looking into buying one of these for myself.

EDIT: Think I'll post this in another thread

Nono Toure · 23-09-2014 6:50pm

This above is now happening on my laptop. Its the Asus F-series, brand new. I was just browsing earlier and then turned off my pc, when it was shutting down up popped a note saying "laptop configurating, do not turn off" but it was already turning off before the note popped up!

2 hours later I turned it back on, and its saying "failure configuring windows update, reverting changes, do not turn off". I didn't request a Windows 8.1 update! It's been on an hour now!! I also transferred loads of files over from my old laptop earlier which took ages, I hope I don't lose all them?!

beauf · 23-09-2014 6:56pm

The files are still on the old laptop yes?

Do ye have automatic updates turned on. I usually set it to don't download just prompt so I can pick and choose what and when to install.

beauf · 23-09-2014 6:59pm

Maybe the ms servers are slow at the moment

Nono Toure · 23-09-2014 7:10pm

beauf wrote: »

The files are still on the old laptop yes?

Do ye have automatic updates turned on. I usually set it to don't download just prompt so I can pick and choose what and when to install.

files on old laptop are now deleted!!! I'll go mental.....

L1011 · 23-09-2014 8:50pm

beauf wrote: »

Maybe the ms servers are slow at the moment

I've actually been having nightmares all day with Microsoft's download servers albeit for Office 2013 not updates so there may be something.

RossieMan · 23-09-2014 9:14pm

For the reverting part, try doing it 16-18 updates at a time. Used to do the trick for me.
Not sure why, could have been complete luck.

Stallingrad · 23-09-2014 9:31pm

RossieMan wrote: »

For the reverting part, try doing it 16-18 updates at a time. Used to do the trick for me.
Not sure why, could have been complete luck.

How do you do this? Long time Mac user battling with this PC!

droidman123 · 24-09-2014 11:29am

is this an asus problem or a Microsoft problem. what I mean is it just on asus laptops that cause the update problems?

L1011 · 24-09-2014 11:54am

Stallingrad wrote: »

How do you do this? Long time Mac user battling with this PC!

Untick them all in Windows Update and just tick individual ones. Often the only way to get large volumes of updates on to 8 I've found. Which is why every machine in the entire company is now bought with 8 Pro and "downgraded" to 7 instantly.

branners69 · 24-09-2014 12:01pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

How do you do this? Long time Mac user battling with this PC!

Open My Computer (Win + E), select System Properties top middle of the screen (if you cant see System Properties make sure the Computer tab top left is selected.

In System Properties, click Windows Updates bottom left. Select the XX Important Updates are available. From here you can click the Name tick to unselect them all, then select the ones you want to install. I did 10 or so at a time or by group ie all .Net updates.

branners69 · 24-09-2014 12:04pm

droidman123 wrote: »

is this an asus problem or a Microsoft problem. what I mean is it just on asus laptops that cause the update problems?

I think it isnt really anyones problem, these laptops were manufactured in February of this year. There is just a huge volume of updates which the laptop cant handle in one go!

I have read that other low end laptops have the same problem.

L1011 · 24-09-2014 1:11pm

branners69 wrote: »

I think it isnt really anyones problem, these laptops were manufactured in February of this year. There is just a huge volume of updates which the laptop cant handle in one go!

I have read that other low end laptops have the same problem.

Its Windows 8, not the spec of the laptop that's at issue. I've had a Core i7 desktop PC need a reinstall after failing to take the 80+ updates offered (and selected by default) in one go.

beauf · 24-09-2014 1:30pm

Its probably one update that broke something.

tea and coffee · 24-09-2014 1:30pm

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?pp=20&s=Price%3A+Low+-+High&storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&q=TOSHIBA+LAPTOP&authToken=

What am I missing here- the first laptop (sorry ignore the HDDs) is "more powerful" than the 2nd one and is cheaper- and cheaper than the 3rd one down which is the same capacity 4gb and 500gb

copey · 24-09-2014 1:46pm

Asus make great laptops

beauf · 24-09-2014 2:11pm

tea and coffee wrote: »

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?pp=20&s=Price%3A+Low+-+High&storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&q=TOSHIBA+LAPTOP&authToken=

What am I missing here- the first laptop (sorry ignore the HDDs) is "more powerful" than the 2nd one and is cheaper- and cheaper than the 3rd one down which is the same capacity 4gb and 500gb

Research the CPU's there may be a difference there.

Headshot · 24-09-2014 2:40pm

damn pity that Asus F551CA is 500 euro now

Is it worth that price even?

Stallingrad · 24-09-2014 3:44pm

Headshot wrote: »

damn pity that Asus F551CA is 500 euro now

Is it worth that price even?

Keep an eye on Argos, it went up and down a couple of times over a few days. No way would I pay that price when €300 is possible.

branners69 · 24-09-2014 3:51pm

Headshot wrote: »

damn pity that Asus F551CA is 500 euro now

Is it worth that price even?

No, definitely not worth €500! Keep an eye out if it drops down again. Or else someone posted a link recently to a Lenovo for €350.

branners69 · 24-09-2014 3:55pm

tea and coffee wrote: »

What am I missing here- the first laptop (sorry ignore the HDDs) is "more powerful" than the 2nd one and is cheaper- and cheaper than the 3rd one down which is the same capacity 4gb and 500gb

As suggested compare the CPUs - http://cpuboss.com/compare-cpus

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