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Shatter resigns

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  • 07-05-2014 4:52pm
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    Dazzler88
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    Breaking news that Alan Shatter has resigned.


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    Scofflaw
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    Looks like the head has finally rolled: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/minister-for-justice-alan-shatter-resigns-1.1786901

    May have gone in advance of the Guerin report, but presumably the existing load is already heavy on his plate. Kenny accepts "with regret".

    RTE: http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0507/615716-alan-shatter-mick-wallace/
    Taoiseach Enda Kenny told the Dáil this afternoon Mr Shatter had resigned following receipt of the report of Seán Guerin into allegations made by Sergeant Maurice McCabe.

    It is critical of a number of agencies including the Department of Justice.

    The minister has taken responsibility for this and is stepping down.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


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    Sully
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    I assume he will continue with his appeal against the ruling by the Data Protection Commission?


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    Chips Lovell
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    Wonder who'll get his job. I assume someone like Varadkar will get bumped up to Justice and a junior minister then given his job?


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    Banjo String
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    Will he bring Kenny down with him?

    Very embarrassing for a legal professional.


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    blackplum123
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    Veradker . The minister that covers everyone else's portfolio


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    HeidiHeidi
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    Is he gone from the Defence portfolio as well I wonder?


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    Sierra Oscar
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    I wonder if he will resign as a TD? He is not someone who wants to languish away on the backbenches exclusively doing constituency reps.


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    Sully
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    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I wonder if he will resign as a TD? He is not someone who wants to languish away on the backbenches exclusively doing constituency reps.

    I suspect he will be back as a Ministerial position in some future government tbh, assuming FG were to get back into power.


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    miju
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    Sully wrote: »
    I suspect he will be back as a Ministerial position in some future government tbh, assuming FG were to get back into power.

    I sincerely hope he's not. He was a disgrace of a Minister with other Ministers in history resigning over alot less that the controversies he blatantly steel necked through.


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    Riskymove
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Is he gone from the Defence portfolio as well I wonder?

    yes he is the one Minister with one portfolio covering 2 departments


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    glued
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    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Wonder who'll get his job. I assume someone like Varadkar will get bumped up to Justice and a junior minister then given his job?

    No one else in cabinet has a legal background. Varadkar would be the obvious choice of the current ministers as he's probably the most popular minister in the public eye but his support of Bruton in 2010 may keep him away from one of the top ministerial positions.


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    Sierra Oscar
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    Sully wrote: »
    I suspect he will be back as a Ministerial position in some future government tbh, assuming FG were to get back into power.

    I wouldn't be too sure, the Guerin report will be explosive. I think it will become clear that Shatter was left with little other option but to resign. It is not something you can come back from too easily.


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    Chips Lovell
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    Actually, yes, I'd forgotten about his role in the heave. That could well work against him.

    I suppose Hogan fits the "law 'n' order" bill. He can hardly be any more polarising that Shatter proved to be.


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    Gene Parmesan
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    Anyone fancy Gilmore to take it?


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    Sully
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    miju wrote: »
    I sincerely hope he's not. He was a disgrace of a Minister with other Ministers in history resigning over alot less that the controversies he blatantly steel necked through.

    Wouldn't go that far. I don't mind the Wallace case as much. It's a bit rich for Wallace to demand he resign for breaking the law when Wallace himself broke far more serious laws.
    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I wouldn't be too sure, the Guerin report will be explosive. I think it will become clear that Shatter was left with little other option but to resign. It is not something you can come back from too easily.

    Well, maybe so. I think his major downfall was the whistle-blower fiasco.


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    sillyoulfool
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    The Guerin and other reports will be explosive re Institutional Garda corruption and mismanagement. If the government is serious about really reforming this most dysfunctional of state agencies, then there is only one person for the job, and that is Varadker.
    With Philly "the enforcer" Hogan about to board the EU Commission gravy train he is ruled out anyway and there is nobody else of ability and stature to take on the job, so it has to be Varadker.


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    Manach
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    Although I agree his position was untenable and while I'd disagree with many of his reforms, he was intellectually one of the most suited to hold the position of Minister of Justice. Pity his hubris caused him to stumble.


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    iwantmydinner
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    Struggling to remember the last time a Minister was forced to resign in disgrace (as opposed to the Noel Dempsey-type resignations of the last govt) ... Any ideas?


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    JP Liz V1
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    About time too, took Kenny long enough
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    Bobeagleburger
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    How he hung on for this long I'll never know.


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    Pedro K
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    Dragged kicking and screaming in the end. An arrogant man who held on for as long as he could.


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    Zubeneschamali
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    I think he held on as long as possible because the plan was always to reshuffle a year or so out from the general election. After the Locals and Euros, when the govt gets a beating, retire the old faces (Shatter, Hogan and Noonan) and roll out the new faces to promise us good times, tax cuts and a spending spree.

    But he had to go early...


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    padser
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    Dazzler88 wrote: »
    Breaking news that Alan Shatter has resigned.

    DELIGHTED!!!!!

    Sorry, didn't mean to shout....I'm just really happy :-)

    It occurs to me, James Reilly must be sitting over in his department feeling fairly worried......after all, if Ministers in Ireland are losing their jobs over doing inappropriate things......


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    seligehgit
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    Yeah I presume Phil Hogan is off to Europe....


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    seligehgit
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    About time too, took Kenny long enough

    I don't believe Enda Kenny sacked him?


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    on the river
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    seligehgit wrote: »
    Yeah I presume Phil Hogan is off to Europe....

    AND LEO AND SIMON. ENDA AND PHIL ARE STAYING


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    20Cent
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    Apparently Shatter has had the Guerin report for a few days at least. Answered questions on defence in the Dail hours before resigning. All very sudden, Guerin report out on Friday will be interesting.

    Gilmore hasn't seen report, left out of the loop once again.


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    SlickRic
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    How he hung on for this long I'll never know.

    1. he's as stubborn as they come.

    2. Kenny owed him it after, along with Hogan, helping him through the heave on his leadership.


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    LynnGrace
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    Sully wrote: »
    It's a bit rich for Wallace to demand he resign for breaking the law when Wallace himself broke far more serious laws.

    Same here, found it hard watching Wallace yesterday evening on the news pontificating about law breaking, considering what he did, himself.

    Shatter was totally wrong to do what he did, and I've no love for him, but when I saw Wallace's blonde curls appearing again this evening on the news, I quickly switched off the tv.


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    bajer101
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    Paddy Power has Charlie Flanagan at 5/6 favourite. Frances Fitzgerald is 15/8. Varadkar is 3/1 and Coveney is 9/1.


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