Roaming charges to end

bumper234 · 03-04-2014 1:35pm #1

The number’s up: Europe votes to end roaming charges

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/the-numbers-up-europe-votes-to-end-roaming-charges-30152284.html

Roaming charges will be ended across Europe by Christmas 2015

About time too, I wonder what "charge" the mobile providers will replace this with to keep fleecing customers.

Oh wait

Mobile phone operators have warned the new regulations could lead to higher domestic tariffs if they can no longer charge extra for roaming.

:rolleyes:

MS.ing · 03-04-2014 3:36pm

do americans have to pay roaming charges when they move from state to state in their home country too? or even in well any country with a state system like australians in austraulia too for example also.

a quick google looks like its just us euro chumps, seriously I mean wtf, how come the eu got away with it or rather imposed whats looking like some ****in charade now, now that they are suddenly saying 'ah no be grand, roam away now we were just having a laugh before and the joke was so good it never got old

'. :rolleyes:

B.A._Baracus · 03-04-2014 3:39pm

On the subject of mobile phones and charges...

Sick of my smartphone taking up to a euro credit each day. Something to do with connecting to vodafone and the internet. Even if you dont use the internet. Was reading that the solution is to swtich off any internet features on your phone. Thne whats the point of having a smartphone

MS.ing · 03-04-2014 3:41pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

On the subject of mobile phones and charges...

Sick of my smartphone taking up to a euro credit each day. Something to do with connecting to vodafone and the internet. Even if you dont use the internet. Was reading that the solution is to swtich off any internet features on your phone. Thne whats the point of having a smartphone

facepalm.jpeg

NegativeCreep · 03-04-2014 3:43pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

On the subject of mobile phones and charges...

Sick of my smartphone taking up to a euro credit each day. Something to do with connecting to vodafone and the internet. Even if you dont use the internet. Was reading that the solution is to swtich off any internet features on your phone. Thne whats the point of having a smartphone

The solution is to switch plans so you can get free internet.

Guy:Incognito · 03-04-2014 4:02pm

MS.ing wrote: »

do americans have to pay roaming charges when they move from state to state in their home country too? or even in well any country with a state system like australians in austraulia too for example also.

a quick google looks like its just us euro chumps, seriously I mean wtf, how come the eu got away with it or rather imposed whats looking like some ****in charade now, now that they are suddenly saying 'ah no be grand, roam away now we were just having a laugh before and the joke was so good it never got old '. :rolleyes:

Is each state in America a separate country? Does each mobile provider have a different company operating in each state? Does your phone switch to a different network when going to different states or are you always on your own?

B.A._Baracus · 03-04-2014 4:06pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

The solution is to switch plans so you can get free internet.

I top up by 20 euro a month and get free texts to all networks and something like 250mb of internet usage (which I never come close to using) When I am in my house I use my wifi....Vodafone still takes credit each day and I dont make calls. More of a texting man

MS.ing wrote: »

facepalm.jpeg

.jpeg?

Irony being you couldnt even link to an image but took the time to write .jpeg :pac:

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-04-2014 4:07pm

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The Backwards Man · 03-04-2014 4:10pm

In fairness, roaming charges are only a fraction of what they were a few years ago so long as you have the right plan(s). My bill in 2004 was averaging €150 a month, it's less than €30 now. No such thing as unlimited internet then either.

Penny Tration · 03-04-2014 4:11pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I top up by 20 euro a month and get free texts to all networks and something like 250mb of internet usage (which I never come close to using) When I am in my house I use my wifi....Vodafone still takes credit each day and I dont make calls. More of a texting man

.jpeg? Irony being you couldnt even link to an image but took the time to write .jpeg :pac:

Switch to Three. 20 euro a month gets you free any network texts, free Three calls, free any network weekend calls, and unlimited data.

ScumLord · 03-04-2014 4:13pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is each state in America a separate country? Does each mobile provider have a different company operating in each state?

There are plenty of companies like Vodafone that operate across all of Europe, there are no technical reasons for having roaming charges, I can't imagine that putting a phone on a cell network is all that much different from connecting a PC to the internet, which isn't all that different from adding a PC to a local network.

These companies are more than likely using the same standardised equipment in every country so there's little reason for the charge.

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2014 4:15pm

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WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 4:15pm

MS.ing wrote: »

do americans have to pay roaming charges when they move from state to state in their home country too? or even in well any country with a state system like australians in austraulia too for example also.

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No roaming charges between States

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is each state in America a separate country? Does each mobile provider have a different company operating in each state? Does your phone switch to a different network when going to different states or are you always on your own?

Each State (to all intents and purposes) is a separate country. Each have their own laws/taxes/building codes etc. Providers are nationwide so no need to float to a different network when crossing State lines.

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2014 4:16pm

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krudler · 03-04-2014 4:16pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

On the subject of mobile phones and charges...

Sick of my smartphone taking up to a euro credit each day. Something to do with connecting to vodafone and the internet. Even if you dont use the internet. Was reading that the solution is to swtich off any internet features on your phone. Thne whats the point of having a smartphone

your phone is probably doing app updates in the background you can turn that off in the app store settings, or just get a data allowance that'll stop the daily charges.

Think of a phone as like a laptop, even if you're connected to the net but not surfing anything it's still using some sort of data traffic in miniscule amounts. If you#re at home just turn off your mobile data and leave wifi on, having both on is just running down your battery faster.

jimgoose · 03-04-2014 4:18pm

ScumLord wrote: »

There are plenty of companies like Vodafone that operate across all of Europe, there are no technical reasons for having roaming charges, I can't imagine that putting a phone on a cell network is all that much different from connecting a PC to the internet, which isn't all that different from adding a PC to a local network.

These companies are more than likely using the same standardised equipment in every country so there's little reason for the charge.

There is a cost associated with facilitating inter-cellular network roaming, mainly due to authentication and accounting procedures. The operators were taking the complete piss out of it for years, though.

Guy:Incognito · 03-04-2014 4:44pm

ScumLord wrote: »

There are plenty of companies like Vodafone that operate across all of Europe, there are no technical reasons for having roaming charges, I can't imagine that putting a phone on a cell network is all that much different from connecting a PC to the internet, which isn't all that different from adding a PC to a local network.

These companies are more than likely using the same standardised equipment in every country so there's little reason for the charge.

It's not just "Vodafone europe" though. It's lots of separate companies. If your with Vodafone and go to Germany say , your not always roaming on Vodafone Germany unless you manually select it and then you might not have coverage everywhere. What about companies that don't operate in the country your in?

Guy:Incognito · 03-04-2014 4:47pm

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Each State (to all intents and purposes) is a separate country. Each have their own laws/taxes/building codes etc. Providers are nationwide so no need to float to a different network when crossing State lines.

That was my point. Its different in Europe, where we actually are separate countries with different languages, currencies etc you cant compare us to the US.

andrew · 03-04-2014 4:47pm

So does this mean I can get a phone contract from a mobile operator in, say, Spain and use it over here with no difference as to data/text/call charges?

WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 4:48pm

ScumLord wrote: »

There are plenty of companies like Vodafone that operate across all of Europe, there are no technical reasons for having roaming charges, I can't imagine that putting a phone on a cell network is all that much different from connecting a PC to the internet, which isn't all that different from adding a PC to a local network.

These companies are more than likely using the same standardised equipment in every country so there's little reason for the charge.

The cellphone companies did this because the politicians allowed it to happen. A lot of jiggery-pokery went on.

coffee_cake · 03-04-2014 4:48pm

MS.ing wrote: »

do americans have to pay roaming charges when they move from state to state in their home country too? or even in well any country with a state system like australians in austraulia too for example also.

a quick google looks like its just us euro chumps, seriously I mean wtf, how come the eu got away with it or rather imposed whats looking like some ****in charade now, now that they are suddenly saying 'ah no be grand, roam away now we were just having a laugh before and the joke was so good it never got old '. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure americans have to pay to receive all calls and stuff anyway, they get charged more for mobiles and stuff than we do

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2010/10/us-canada-lead-the-world-in-expensive-cell-packages/
Mobile users in the US and Canada tend to pay more for a complete cell phone package than anyone else in the world
(The US and Canada's per-minute rate was doubled in the report because customers pay for both incoming and outgoing calls.)

Again, the US was among the top three when it came to expensive texts (and again, the US rate was doubled because we pay for both incoming and outgoing texts)

Imagine paying for incoming texts

WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 5:03pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

That was my point. Its different in Europe, where we actually are separate countries with different languages, currencies etc you cant compare us to the US.

It is pretty much like the United States of Europe. Each State makes it's own laws but can be overridden by the Federal government - just like the European Parliament. Each State HAS it's own currency (on one side) with the USA stamp on the other - just like the Euro coins. As regards the languages .......... fancy overhearing a conversation between someone from the Bayou in Louisiana and a fisherman in Maine

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2014 5:04pm

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Call Me Jimmy · 03-04-2014 5:04pm

The EU: is there anything we can't do?

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WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 5:09pm

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm pretty sure americans have to pay to receive all calls and stuff anyway, they get charged more for mobiles and stuff than we do

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Imagine paying for incoming texts

Especially the spam ones :mad:

Mammanabammana · 03-04-2014 5:26pm

Restrict your phone to wifi and use the likes of Skype, Viber, Tango etc. I'll be out of the country a lot this year and I'm fecked if I'm paying roaming charges when there's so many free options.

WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 5:34pm

Mammanabammana wrote: »

Restrict your phone to wifi and use the likes of Skype, Viber, Tango etc. I'll be out of the country a lot this year and I'm fecked if I'm paying roaming charges when there's so many free options.

Not trying to be personal Mammanabammana ............ but did the priest that christened you have a bit of a stststammammer?

Mammanabammana · 03-04-2014 5:38pm

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Not trying to be personal Mammanabammana ............ but did the priest that christened you have a bit of a stststammammer?

He pronounced it perfectly. But the source was a perfectly articulated 'mammanabammana' from a YouTube video of a child talking pure gibberish in the back seat of her father's car. So we must blame the children. Well, child.

WilyCoyote · 03-04-2014 5:46pm

Mammanabammana wrote: »

He pronounced it perfectly. But the source was a perfectly articulated 'mammanabammana' from a YouTube video of a child talking pure gibberish in the back seat of her father's car. So we must blame the children. Well, child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFeO2t4luQ

MS.ing · 03-04-2014 6:15pm

WilyCoyote wrote: »

No roaming charges between States

Each State (to all intents and purposes) is a separate country. Each have their own laws/taxes/building codes etc. Providers are nationwide so no need to float to a different network when crossing State lines.

cheers thought so and knew it! which brings me to my real question how could this possibly have happened in the eu apart from some ****ed up corruption and why did we all say " ah ye bastards, but here *opens wallet*"

for us

:mad: :bangheadsmiley:

I miss bang head smiley

Knasher · 03-04-2014 6:20pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Sick of my smartphone taking up to a euro credit each day. Something to do with connecting to vodafone and the internet. Even if you dont use the internet. Was reading that the solution is to swtich off any internet features on your phone. Thne whats the point of having a smartphone

You don't have to stop using WiFi, just the phones 3G connection (and turn it back on the days you explicitly want to use it). Even if you aren't using the internet, if you have 3G turned on your phone is, so it can maintain a connection to a server for receiving emails or internet messages or whatever.

Roaming charges to end

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