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Phantom FM no more

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 rmerrin


    will the new station not have live programs or will it all be auto dj


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    rmerrin wrote: »
    will the new station not have live programs or will it all be auto dj

    https://www.spotify.com/ie/ if you like auto


    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Does this mean Nova has won........God help us........:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,714 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Advertisers were always going to be wary of a station that specialised in obscure album tracks from cult bands that very few of their target would have heard of.

    Once listener numbers fell off a cliff, cold business decisions had to be made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Advertisers were always going to be wary of a station that specialised in obscure album tracks from cult bands that very few of their target would have heard of.

    Once listener numbers fell off a cliff, cold business decisions had to be made.

    Seems to have been no issue in year one of Phantom when they had no figures to their name. Big advertisers like cool too which is why you hear more local than agency ads on Nova. Nova has the numbers but just isn't cool.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,998 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    this is the end result of phantom being forced to operate as a full commercial station rather then a community of interest station, plastic bubblegum pop music sells, alternative, rock, indie, doesn't sell as much, as for this TX fm, whats the point, if its going to be mostly automated then really is their any point in it being on air? i can't see it getting any more listeners then currently

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭soc160


    https://soundcloud.com/phantom1052/phantom-good-times

    The final broadcast, including the best bits of the station and the first broadcast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭thalia_13


    I don't know if its just an effect of the fear after last night's drinking, but I got very tearful listening to that clip. I missed the last few hours, heard a bit of John Caddell, but as much as I could never stand Joe, I will miss the breakfast show in the morning. The last stadium rock put a lump in my throat, and the 2 Richies no longer on radio is hard to fathom!!
    I can't begin to imagine what radio I will listen to now Phantom is gone!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    thalia_13 wrote: »
    I don't know if its just an effect of the fear after last night's drinking, but I got very tearful listening to that clip. I missed the last few hours, heard a bit of John Caddell, but as much as I could never stand Joe, I will miss the breakfast show in the morning. The last stadium rock put a lump in my throat, and the 2 Richies no longer on radio is hard to fathom!!
    I can't begin to imagine what radio I will listen to now Phantom is gone!!

    The brandname Phantom is gone but the station is not gone completely. It is in transition, currently using the name 105.2. It will be relaunched later this month as TX FM. By the way, neither John Caddell or Joe Donnelly have been let go. It is quite conceivable that Joe may still be doing the breakfast show.

    This is the official situation, but it could be argued that the spirit of the station has gone. Time will tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭former legend


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Advertisers were always going to be wary of a station that specialised in obscure album tracks from cult bands that very few of their target would have heard of.
    I don't think Phantom was ever like that. I'm guessing you didn't listen.
    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Once listener numbers fell off a cliff, cold business decisions had to be made.

    No-one would argue with that, it's a commercial enterprise. I think what most people objected to was the fact that, when audience figures weren't good enough, they changed the format. But when figures kept falling, they just ploughed on in the same vein and digging themselves deeper into the same hole. So they lost their loyal listeners and gained no new ones. If you ever heard the Joe & Keith breakfast show, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    RDS now reads 105.2FM.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    And in some cars, especially those with older displays, it looks like I05-2fm.

    Whoops! ;)
    Maybe it is a secret plan from Dan Healy? An April Fools day prank from Denis? Fooling us all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,834 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Infoanon wrote: »
    RDS now reads 105.2FM.....

    The station info still has Phantom FM though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Where?


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭More Music


    Where?

    Radiotext maybe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Listening to 105.2FM now and it's a joy not to have the banality and 'banter' that was the morning show playing.
    Music on the radio again, 'tis nice.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    More Music wrote: »
    Radiotext maybe?

    Didn't notice anything scrolling on my receiver this morning.

    RDS implementation is a bit sloppy though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,834 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    The station info still has Phantom FM though.
    Where?
    More Music wrote: »
    Radiotext maybe?

    Yeah, radio text. I checked this morning and like Five Lamps said it's not there now. I got the message that no data is available when I went to check again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Listening to 105.2FM now and it's a joy not to have the banality and 'banter' that was the morning show playing.
    Music on the radio again, 'tis nice.

    Your one now doing the morning show sounds like she's about ten and over indulging on helium. On at least occasions in the last two mornings she's incorrectly introduced songs too. Added to the fact that the delays in pressing buttons for adverts etc. It gives the impression of someone on work experience. The music is still good but bring back Joe and Charlotte Flood (I could listen to Floody reading the telephone directory. I hope she finds an outlet for her dulcet tones sooner rather than later.....)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 rmerrin


    have they took some of the djs over from frq.fm to cover the slots or it is a permanent thing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Shame really and odd hearing just hearing the 105.2 now...

    I'll really miss shows like The Weekender, and hope somethign similiar like that continues on the new station.


    It really is amazing how they're keeping on Keith and Joe, surely the Breakfast Show couldn't have indicated good enough listening figures to keep them on?! Then again, it's probably a case of the blind leading the blind.
    They should of kept the likes of Charlotte on. Keeping Cadell on board gives me some hope of some sort of viability for tue future of the station, but not a whole lot, I don't think TX will last all that long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Shame really and odd hearing just hearing the 105.2 now...

    I'll really miss shows like The Weekender, and hope somethign similiar like that continues on the new station.


    It really is amazing how they're keeping on Keith and Joe, surely the Breakfast Show couldn't have indicated good enough listening figures to keep them on?! Then again, it's probably a case of the blind leading the blind.
    They should of kept the likes of Charlotte on. Keeping Cadell on board gives me some hope of some sort of viability for tue future of the station, but not a whole lot, I don't think TX will last all that long.

    It's well documented on this forum that Keith Walsh went to 2FM some time ago. He is one of the presenters of 2FM's Breakfast Republic (see that thread). He left Phantom during December. Have you been away?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    marwelie wrote: »
    Your one now doing the morning show sounds like she's about ten and over indulging on helium. On at least occasions in the last two mornings she's incorrectly introduced songs too. Added to the fact that the delays in pressing buttons for adverts etc. It gives the impression of someone on work experience. The music is still good but bring back Joe and Charlotte Flood (I could listen to Floody reading the telephone directory. I hope she finds an outlet for her dulcet tones sooner rather than later.....)
    i'll agree with the first part. she sounds like a kid full of sugar. needs to relax a bit. I see she is (was?) a presenter on Spin, and it shows to be honest. Only listened for 30mins yesterday and today, but if I had to listen much longer i'd probably get annoyed with the enthusiasm.

    as for the 2nd part, i'd rather have no presenter than Joe back on the air.

    in truth, i'd prefer if the only words out of a presenter's mouth in the mornings were "that was Band A - Song X here on 105.2, here is Band B with Song Y".


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    thalia_13 wrote: »
    I don't know if its just an effect of the fear after last night's drinking, but I got very tearful listening to that clip. I missed the last few hours, heard a bit of John Caddell, but as much as I could never stand Joe, I will miss the breakfast show in the morning. The last stadium rock put a lump in my throat, and the 2 Richies no longer on radio is hard to fathom!!
    I can't begin to imagine what radio I will listen to now Phantom is gone!!

    BBC Radio 6.No need to listen to Irish radio.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    BBC 6 Music is the absolute dogs bollocks. Brilliant station.

    I thought that all presenters were taken off 105.2 until the rebrand? I totally turned off until then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    BBC 6 Music is the absolute dogs bollocks. Brilliant station.

    I thought that all presenters were taken off 105.2 until the rebrand? I totally turned off until then.

    No, there have been presenters. At least two: Claire O'Dowd in the morning and Paul Donegan in the evening. I don't know about in between.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Then why all the hoo-haa about the closure? They just call it 105.2? Ads? Etc.?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Then why all the hoo-haa about the closure? They just call it 105.2? Ads? Etc.?

    There are a few reasons. Firstly, it is the end of the Phantom brand which has been around since 1997 as a pirate. It has been around fully licensed since 2006. Secondly, most of the staff (broadcasting and others) have been let go. Between these two factors, it is like the end of something.... the spirit of Phantom you might say.

    Of course, there are some who have mistakenly and very understandably thought the station as such had completely closed down. There are others like yourself surprised to discover that there are people presenting on 105.2 during this bizarre transition before the re-launch as TX FM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    What happened to Phantom? It had such vibe and energy when it appeared. It reintroduced me to music I thought I would never listen to. Artisits such as Ian Brown spring to mind in recent years with his solo album but that seemed to fade. Was the music too alternative for the listener?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,998 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    bbability wrote: »
    What happened to Phantom? It had such vibe and energy when it appeared. It reintroduced me to music I thought I would never listen to. Artisits such as Ian Brown spring to mind in recent years with his solo album but that seemed to fade. Was the music too alternative for the listener?
    my take on it is, the music was to alternative for the advertisers, not enough advertisers for the particular market, other advertisers wouldn't advertise because they felt the listenership wasn't big enough, so station goes more mainstream to try to apeal to a bigger audience to get more advertising, it failed/backfired (whatever way one wants to put it) and they lost listeners, original investers got out and new invester (communicorp) kept to the same strategy of trying to apeal to a bigger more mainstream audience, by the sounds of it it has failed and now they have gotten rid of the majority of the staff and are rebranding, probably in the hope that the cross promotion between it and today fm will help it stay afloat, whether it will or not is anyones guess, its a game of wait and see.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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