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Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

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    #1622
    thekopend
    Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    Raider190 wrote: »
    So if a candidate is smart holds a degree a masters degree and say 4. Years Garda reserve experience and spent the last two years designing hr related aptitude testing systems then the chances of success are good

    Maybe not, he could have an attitude that stinks and fail the interview, reserve or not.


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    #1623
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    Devil08 wrote: »
    Are you a reserve raider? If you are then now I know why reserves get a bad rap. They must let anyone into the reserve

    Careful now your insults have gotten you into trouble before. And no they are quite selective and the process is exactly the same apart from the physical


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    #1624
    thekopend
    Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    Raider190 wrote: »
    Careful now your insults have gotten you into trouble before. And no they are quite selective and the process is exactly the same apart from the physical

    Don't forget the aptitude now, more wrong information.


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    #1625
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    thekopend wrote: »
    Maybe not, he could have an attitude that stinks and fail the interview, reserve or not.

    But the interview process is the same for the regular as for the reserve. Competency based except the reserve will have some actual police experience in order to demonstrate his or hers competency. So the logic is pretty clear


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    #1626
    thekopend
    Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    For the sake of the whole forum I am not feeding you anymore


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    #1627
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    thekopend wrote: »
    Don't forget the aptitude now, more wrong information.

    The aptitude is so simple and. I say this in the context of working in this sector. It is standard and will pose no problem to those who are well balanced and of average intelligent. But you are correct the test is different for the reserve but designed to test the same attributes


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    #1628
    robo008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭robo008


    I said I would not get sucked in but I have! There seems to be an awful lot of jealousy from non reserves here. People saying they take on anyone? Just remember lads wen it comes to interview, full timers I work with were asked why they didn't join the reserve before the moratorium! It will be heavily asked this time around. Also just think of this lads 13000 full timers 1300 reserves max. Yes some come and go however it is an accomplishment to get a reserve spot. Say there was 1300 reserves hired in its 7 years. Assuming they hire the same amount every year that estimating 185 hired each year. Which is less than they will hire this year full time. So don't think anybody gets in! Just remember we have on the job experience. Weve shown community involvement, commitment to a career, it's proof we aren't driven by financial gain, volunteering, a career in AGS Is not for everone, reserves will be less likely to drop out! I'm in the reserve 3 years I know I won't get it this time around. There are many fine over qualified reserves to compete against. Obviously not all reserves will make it! But I just can't believe how slated the reserve is here. Good luck lads...


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    #1629
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    thekopend wrote: »
    For the sake of the whole forum I am not feeding you anymore

    you choose to answer and poke holes in most of the posters here. You need to respect others opinions and those of us who do have some police experience and who are also doing their best to further their career by joining the regular. A number of posters on this forum are serving members and hoping to join as Garda trainees, perhaps you could remember this for future postings


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    #1630
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    Raider190 wrote: »
    you choose to answer and poke holes in most of the posters here. You need to respect others opinions and those of us who do have some police experience and who are also doing their best to further their career by joining the regular. A number of posters on this forum are serving members and hoping to join as Garda trainees, perhaps you could remember this for future postings

    Does that mean that because I'm not in the reserve I'm less entitled to apply? I didn't know that reserves are getting in automatically, apologies raider 190, seems you might make it after all. What rank are you in the reserve?


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    #1631
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    robo008 wrote: »
    I said I would not get sucked in but I have! There seems to be an awful lot of jealousy from non reserves here. People saying they take on anyone? Just remember lads wen it comes to interview, full timers I work with were asked why they didn't join the reserve before the moratorium! It will be heavily asked this time around. Also just think of this lads 13000 full timers 1300 reserves max. Yes some come and go however it is an accomplishment to get a reserve spot. Say there was 1300 reserves hired in its 7 years. Assuming they hire the same amount every year that estimating 185 hired each year. Which is less than they will hire this year full time. So don't think anybody gets in! Just remember we have on the job experience. Weve shown community involvement, commitment to a career, it's proof we aren't driven by financial gain, volunteering, a career in AGS Is not for everone, reserves will be less likely to drop out! I'm in the reserve 3 years I know I won't get it this time around. There are many fine over qualified reserves to compete against. Obviously not all reserves will make it! But I just can't believe how slated the reserve is here. Good luck lads...

    I actually agree that gardai reserves have an advantage, well at the interview stage anyway. But as been said many times on this forum there are loads of other ways to show community involvement, commitment to a career and all the rest of it.

    They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...


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    #1632
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    thekopend wrote: »
    Jesus, they really do take on anyone. Best of luck to you, please let us know how u get on, if you get on :)

    When your commitment level increases and you decide to actually do something that may help you join the Gardai then your opinion would be of value but to sit on the sideline and denigrate those who put on a uniform and a stab vest and put themselves ion the line. Well that clearly says a lot


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    #1633
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    Does that mean that because I'm not in the reserve I'm less entitled to apply? I didn't know that reserves are getting in automatically, apologies raider 190, seems you might make it after all. What rank are you in the reserve?

    Everyone is entitled to apply and Reserves won't automatically get a training slot but when it comes to an interview they will have an advantage, as regard rank within the reserve there is only one that of reserve Garda.


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    #1634
    Scouser
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    carzony wrote: »

    They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...

    but while your explaining and excusing why you didnt/wouldnt/couldnt others will be leaping in front of you

    if your explaining your losing!


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    #1635
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Scouser wrote: »
    but while your explaining and excusing why you didnt/wouldnt/couldnt others will be leaping in front of you

    if your explaining your losing!

    If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

    We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..


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    #1636
    thestar
    Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭thestar


    nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use ;)


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    #1637
    Scouser
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    thestar wrote: »
    nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use ;)

    put that big spoon away!


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    #1638
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    carzony wrote: »
    I actually agree that gardai reserves have an advantage, well at the interview stage anyway. But as been said many times on this forum there are loads of other ways to show community involvement, commitment to a career and all the rest of it.

    They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...

    Imagine how impressed they would be given all the above and you still found the time to work with regular as a reseve..........they would be giving your application some serious consideration


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    #1639
    thestar
    Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭thestar


    carzony wrote: »
    If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

    We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..

    Agree with you there that it doesn't show much faith in them that there was no preference was given to reserves. Interesting to see the question about being a reserve in the application form however


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    #1640
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    thestar wrote: »
    nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use ;)

    I work, have college and work with the civil defence twice a week. I actually work alongside lots of gardai. Being honest The main reason I didnt go for the reserves is the time it takes to go through the checks ect....


    thestar wrote: »
    Agree with you there that it doesn't show much faith in them that there was no preference was given to reserves. Interesting to see the question about being a reserve in the application form however

    I did consider that but as I said we shall see how many are actually recruited in the campaign.. I think if recruitment becomes a regular thing than the reserve force won't be as big because people will just wanna join full time again..


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    #1641
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    carzony wrote: »
    If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

    We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..

    Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes


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    #1642
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Raider190 wrote: »
    Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes

    I don't know the answer to that and neither do you. I could well be statistical... Anyone what does it mean? you still need to go through the process the same as any joe soap and if not the rest of the applicants will feel it's unfair..

    I would love to know how many reserves actually want to go full time.. aHopefully this campaign can give us a rough answer..


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    #1643
    thestar
    Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭thestar


    Raider190 wrote: »
    Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes

    For whatever reason it is the aptitude tests are still gonna be marked the same way, regardless of being a reserve or not, its the one step in the process where one has to earn their right to the next stage


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    #1644
    Scouser
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    carzony wrote: »
    I don't know the answer to that and neither do you

    HR will have that answer for you


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    #1645
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    I did consider that but as I said we shall see how many are actually recruited in the campaign.. I think if recruitment becomes a regular thing than the reserve force won't be as big because people will just wanna join full time again..[/QUOTE]

    The total number of the force will be 13000 for a number of years to come and the Reserve will stand at 10 percent . The UK forces faced problems with keeping there numbers in the past. Their solution was to offer their special constables full time 3 yearly renewable contracts


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    #1646
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    carzony wrote: »
    I don't know the answer to that and neither do you. I could well be statistical... Anyone what does it mean? you still need to go through the process the same as any joe soap and if not the rest of the applicants will feel it's unfair..

    I would love to know how many reserves actually want to go full time.. aHopefully this campaign can give us a rough answer..

    Hands up anyone who has a mate in HR


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    #1647
    Hitchroun
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Hitchroun


    Raider190 wrote: »
    The UK forces faced problems with keeping there numbers in the past. Their solution was to offer their special constables full time 3 yearly renewable contracts

    Could you go into more detail on that?


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    #1648
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    thestar wrote: »
    For whatever reason it is the aptitude tests are still gonna be marked the same way, regardless of being a reserve or not, its the one step in the process where one has to earn their right to the next stage

    Totally agree but when your file arrives at the interview panel table with a reserve member marker on it then the game changes


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    #1649
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    Hitchroun wrote: »
    Could you go into more detail on that?

    All on line I believe think it was 3 to 5 years ago


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    #1650
    Hitchroun
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Hitchroun


    Raider190 wrote: »
    All on line I believe think it was 3 to 5 years ago

    Yeah, I tried. Can't find anything.


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    #1651
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Raider190 wrote: »
    Totally agree but when your file arrives at the interview panel table with a reserve member marker on it then the game changes

    If the aptitude goes well;);)

    i'm certain there is better qualified people out there than a lot of the reserves.. As an earlier poster said they only dedicate 4 hours a week.. and from a report i read here a few months ago a lot of them aint even given that much time..


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