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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    just reading Ryanairs reply to C4 Dispatches and have to say I agree with Ryanair. TV reporting at its worst!

    On the posts re ease of booking have to say that EasyJet and Aer Lingus websites are more booking friendly than Ryanair. I obviously don't know what happened to MOH but I have never encountered any problems with AL. Quite the opposite and while I have never had a problem with Ryanair staff I would say that Aer Lingus staff are much more friendly, both on board and at the airport. My only real quibble with AL is the pricing structure, I check all three airlines when flying to Faro, checking out early prices and of these EasyJet are the only consistant ones, earlier you book - cheaper the price. Usually the case with Ryanair but not always. Aer Lingus, who are usually the first to release flights always overprice early and then have a number of sales as the year progresses. Silly for the likes of me, as by the time they reduce fares I have already booked, not willing to take a punt on the sales. point in case: I checked August/Sept fares much earlier this year, got returns to Faro with EJ for €261 return for 2, AL were quoting over €400 at that stage. They are now down to €295 for equivelant flights. Why they don't offer these fare to early bookers and then increase always leave me puzzled. But their staff are friendlier. No question. I usually use AL when I take a last minute notion to go to Portugal (have the use of an apt there)and they have reduced prices.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    Did Michael O'Leary send in the assassins to joeysoap?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Did Michael O'Leary send in the assassins to joeysoap?

    :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Now they go and fire the pilot!! Good publicity. For C4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭livemusic4life


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Now they go and fire the pilot!! Good publicity. For C4.

    he was 6 months from retirement, so i doubt he'll be too gutted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,911 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Now they go and fire the pilot!! Good publicity. For C4.

    Deserved to be fired, if i had gone onto a TV programme to slag off my employers, without there permission i'd fully expect to get fired too.

    The pilot knew what he was doing


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I must be extremely lucky because I regularly book with EI and Ryanair and manage to book tickets in under 2 minutes, and the majority of my flights are on time and absolutely fine.

    Some of the comments here are gas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Anyone see this?

    This lady was apparently Ryanair's one millionth passenger. She was to get free flights for life. But she had trouble getting them, so she sued. And won! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Anyone see this?

    This lady was apparently Ryanair's one millionth passenger. She was to get free flights for life. But she had trouble getting them, so she sued. And won! :D

    11 years ago :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Hmmm. Caught my eye as it was one of the most read stories on RTE. On closer inspection, it's dated June '02! Strange...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 davidoc4


    Hi -Does anyone know how to contact Ryanair? I was given a fax number 01 5081702, however it is either engaged or not answered?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    davidoc4 wrote: »
    Hi -Does anyone know how to contact Ryanair? I was given a fax number 01 5081702, however it is either engaged or not answered?

    What do you mean not answered? Have you tried sending a fax?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 davidoc4


    syklops wrote: »
    What do you mean not answered? Have you tried sending a fax?

    Yes, tried about 10 tImes this morning. Either no ans or busy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    davidoc4 wrote: »
    Yes, tried about 10 tImes this morning. Either no ans or busy.

    Try again later. it is the correct number, Other boardsies have sent faxes to that number and gotten replies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 davidoc4


    Having now in excess of 30 failed fax attempts over the day - does anyone know how else to contact Ryanair without using the premium number?


  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭finnteme


    davidoc4 wrote: »
    Having now in excess of 30 failed fax attempts over the day - does anyone know how else to contact Ryanair without using the premium number?

    Try this one, dont know if they are valid anymore

    Country: Ireland
    World second largest low-cost airline, extensive network within Europe
    IATA code: FR
    ICAO code: RYR
    Head office: Corporate Head Office, Dublin Airport, Dublin, Co Dublin, Ireland
    Phone number: +353 1 812 1212
    Fax number: +353 1 812 1213

    http://www.airlines-inform.com/world_airlines/Ryanair.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    I think Ryanair are missing a trick with their refund policy (no refunds).

    I have to cancel 2 seats on the return leg of a booking in November. I know I will have to simply not turn up for the flight and forfeit the fare. No problem. If I was bad enough I could check in and cause some small hassle for the airline trying to close the flight.

    However, If I was allowed to cancel and get, say, 50% refund on that leg they would then be able to sell the seats again at full value. Everyone wins.


    While I'm in the saddle... Their carry-on bag policy is a little counter-productive. My wife and I have identical carry on cases. Both were packed in a similar fashion. We arrived at Malaga and proceeded to the gate. We had no checked in bags. My wife was reading a book while waiting to board and she stuffed it in the front pocket of the bag instead of inside the bag at the top where it came from.

    My bag went into the frame no problem, but my wife's wouldn't go in due to the book. An old crone told my wife to check it in and pay the €60 to put it in the hold. She realised what she had done and took the book from the front pocket and put it in the bag. Bag then goes easily into the frame. But the aforesaid crone insisted that it be checked in, even though she saw it fit into the frame.

    My wife had no other option but to pay the €60 to leave the bag and get on the plane.

    In future we will pay for a checked bag and carry more stuff with us. I'm sure that's not what Mick O'Leary wants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Gosub wrote: »
    I think Ryanair are missing a trick with their refund policy (no refunds).

    I have to cancel 2 seats on the return leg of a booking in November. I know I will have to simply not turn up for the flight and forfeit the fare. No problem. If I was bad enough I could check in and cause some small hassle for the airline trying to close the flight.

    However, If I was allowed to cancel and get, say, 50% refund on that leg they would then be able to sell the seats again at full value. Everyone wins.


    While I'm in the saddle... Their carry-on bag policy is a little counter-productive. My wife and I have identical carry on cases. Both were packed in a similar fashion. We arrived at Malaga and proceeded to the gate. We had no checked in bags. My wife was reading a book while waiting to board and she stuffed it in the front pocket of the bag instead of inside the bag at the top where it came from.

    My bag went into the frame no problem, but my wife's wouldn't go in due to the book. An old crone told my wife to check it in and pay the €60 to put it in the hold. She realised what she had done and took the book from the front pocket and put it in the bag. Bag then goes easily into the frame. But the aforesaid crone insisted that it be checked in, even though she saw it fit into the frame.

    My wife had no other option but to pay the €60 to leave the bag and get on the plane.

    In future we will pay for a checked bag and carry more stuff with us. I'm sure that's not what Mick O'Leary wants.


    Second bit, I would have refused to pay

    Third bit, I would not pay for checked bags just to carry more stuff to spite Ryanair


  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭livemusic4life


    Gosub wrote: »
    I think Ryanair are missing a trick with their refund policy (no refunds).

    I have to cancel 2 seats on the return leg of a booking in November. I know I will have to simply not turn up for the flight and forfeit the fare. No problem. If I was bad enough I could check in and cause some small hassle for the airline trying to close the flight.

    However, If I was allowed to cancel and get, say, 50% refund on that leg they would then be able to sell the seats again at full value. Everyone wins.


    While I'm in the saddle... Their carry-on bag policy is a little counter-productive. My wife and I have identical carry on cases. Both were packed in a similar fashion. We arrived at Malaga and proceeded to the gate. We had no checked in bags. My wife was reading a book while waiting to board and she stuffed it in the front pocket of the bag instead of inside the bag at the top where it came from.

    My bag went into the frame no problem, but my wife's wouldn't go in due to the book. An old crone told my wife to check it in and pay the €60 to put it in the hold. She realised what she had done and took the book from the front pocket and put it in the bag. Bag then goes easily into the frame. But the aforesaid crone insisted that it be checked in, even though she saw it fit into the frame.

    My wife had no other option but to pay the €60 to leave the bag and get on the plane.

    In future we will pay for a checked bag and carry more stuff with us. I'm sure that's not what Mick O'Leary wants.


    you can still get a refund on the airport charges. i know its not that much but its better than nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭opa01_2000


    davidoc4 wrote: »
    Having now in excess of 30 failed fax attempts over the day - does anyone know how else to contact Ryanair without using the premium number?

    Same happened to me a couple of years ago - took three days regularly trying to get a fax through.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    Gosub wrote: »
    I think Ryanair are missing a trick with their refund policy (no refunds).

    I have to cancel 2 seats on the return leg of a booking in November. I know I will have to simply not turn up for the flight and forfeit the fare. No problem. If I was bad enough I could check in and cause some small hassle for the airline trying to close the flight.

    However, If I was allowed to cancel and get, say, 50% refund on that leg they would then be able to sell the seats again at full value. Everyone wins.

    I don't think they are "missing a trick". They don't want the administrative cost and headache of people cancelling all the time. The only way "everyone wins" in the scenario you describe might be if the flight you no longer wished to take suddenly became very popular because it crossed with a sports event, for example, which they knew they could sell an extra seat at maximum price. Most flights have spare seats, and I suspect the algorithm used that sets the flight prices actually targets less than maximum capacity, so any last minute corporate passengers can be accommodated at maximum price too. So if there are spare seats on the trip you are no longer going on, Ryanair has gained nothing by allowing you to have a refund.
    Gosub wrote: »
    While I'm in the saddle... Their carry-on bag policy is a little counter-productive. My wife and I have identical carry on cases. Both were packed in a similar fashion. We arrived at Malaga and proceeded to the gate. We had no checked in bags. My wife was reading a book while waiting to board and she stuffed it in the front pocket of the bag instead of inside the bag at the top where it came from.

    My bag went into the frame no problem, but my wife's wouldn't go in due to the book. An old crone told my wife to check it in and pay the €60 to put it in the hold. She realised what she had done and took the book from the front pocket and put it in the bag. Bag then goes easily into the frame. But the aforesaid crone insisted that it be checked in, even though she saw it fit into the frame.

    My wife had no other option but to pay the €60 to leave the bag and get on the plane.

    In future we will pay for a checked bag and carry more stuff with us. I'm sure that's not what Mick O'Leary wants.

    On what grounds did the guy think he had the right to charge you?
    On what grounds did you relent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 davidoc4


    With over 80 failed attempts to send a fax to the number provided by Ryanair in their email to me, I called the premium rate number. 3 people hung up on me once I explained the problem I was having, until eventually on a 4th attempt it was confirmed to me that the number is not connected to a fax and is not i use (even though it does ring occasionally). When asked why, I was told that it is "just a standard email that gets sent out". Ryanair customer service at its best!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub



    On what grounds did the guy think he had the right to charge you?
    On what grounds did you relent?

    It was my wife's bag, I had already gone through and they wouldn't allow me to go back and help my wife.

    They charged on the grounds that the bag didn't fit in the cage. It did fit in after the book had been removed from the front pocket and placed inside the bag, but that didn't impress the b¡tch on the gate. She insisted that the charge be paid or the bag left behind. My wife was left with no other option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    Gosub wrote: »
    They charged on the grounds that the bag didn't fit inthe cage. It did fit in after the book had been removed from the front pocketand placed inside the bag, but that didn't impress the b¡tch on the gate. Sheinsisted that the charge be paid or the bag left behind. My wife was left with no other option.


    You're clearly angry. If you'd known you were going to pay a total of an extra €60 more than you expected, it might have altered your travel plans.

    =Perhaps it’s better not to go too far ahead of your wife in future. If it was me, I'd write to them at: Customer Service Dept, Ryanair Corporate Head Office, Dublin Airport, Co Dublin and explain the situation factually, (without descending into derogatory terms). At the very least you'll be forcing them to acknowledge your complaint (and the costs that go with having to employ someone to do this), and explain to you why it was justified that you should be charged and secondly why you should be refused to go back to your wife.

    I wouldn't expect my €60 back, but it will reduce your annoyance because you've done something.

    You will then have a response from them, which combined with your complaint, offers the full picture to someone independent. I'm not suggesting you do anything beyond this, but at least you have it, and the matter is closed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭strongback


    It really depends on whether you want to get into a row or just pay the €60 for the sake of peace.


    I know a women who was flying Ryanair with her daughter. They ended up being 30 sec late when they got to the gate and were refused entry to the plane. These two people are hot headed and after requesting some leniencey the daughter just walked past the person checking the tickets and got onto the plane. Ryanair rang the Gardai who came and escorted her off the plane. The women were taken back through passport control and released. As they walked they were chatting to the Guards who apparently said 'Ryanair give us more hassle than all the other airlines put together. Ryanair bring it on themselves as they are openly hostile to passengers. We are not surprised when people react badly to it.'

    The daughter got a life ban from Ryanair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    strongback wrote: »
    It really depends on whether you want to get into a row or just pay the €60 for the sake of peace.


    I know a women who was flying Ryanair with her daughter. They ended up being 30 sec late when they got to the gate and were refused entry to the plane. These two people are hot headed and after requesting some leniencey the daughter just walked past the person checking the tickets and got onto the plane. Ryanair rang the Gardai who came and escorted her off the plane. The women were taken back through passport control and released. As they walked they were chatting to the Guards who apparently said 'Ryanair give us more hassle than all the other airlines put together. Ryanair bring it on themselves as they are openly hostile to passengers. We are not surprised when people react badly to it.'

    The daughter got a life ban from Ryanair.

    I seriously doubt they were refused entry to the plane for being 30 seconds late. 30 seconds later than them closing the doors which had been preceded by five minutes of calling for the passengers on the tannoy more like.

    Edit:
    If it didn't go to court how would Ryanair enforce a lifetime ban? As soon as the daughter renews her passport, Ryanair lose the ability to track her bookings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭strongback


    syklops wrote: »
    I seriously doubt they were refused entry to the plane for being 30 seconds late. 30 seconds later than them closing the doors which had been preceded by five minutes of calling for the passengers on the tannoy more like.

    Edit:
    If it didn't go to court how would Ryanair enforce a lifetime ban? As soon as the daughter renews her passport, Ryanair lose the ability to track her bookings.


    In 2010 I flew every week to the UK with Ryanair. Nothing would surprise me with them. It's just about learning the drill so they don't get the opportunity to apply their terms and conditions. Make no mistake they see their passengers as little more than cattle.

    The daughter deserved her life ban. I couldn't care less how Ryanair police the ban.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    syklops wrote: »
    I seriously doubt they were refused entry to the plane for being 30 seconds late. 30 seconds later than them closing the doors which had been preceded by five minutes of calling for the passengers on the tannoy more like.

    I agree with this, the pair must have been well late


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭strongback


    I agree with this, the pair must have been well late


    Was that worth a post?


    Ryanair are strict to the point of being antagonistic was my point.


    Anyway the daughter was still able to walk onto the plane and sit down even though see was refused entry.


    The previous poster mentioned names being called out on a tannoy. Ryanair don't do a lot of that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    If it was me, I'd write to them at: Customer Service Dept, Ryanair Corporate Head Office, Dublin Airport, Co Dublin and explain the situation factually.

    It's interesting that in the little magazine that Ryanair hand out to you that they say that they have (one of) the lowest complaints per 1000 passengers of any airline. This depends of course on 2 things: that they categorise their feedback properly and the likelihood of a passenger that's had an issue to complain about it.

    Given the effort that has to go into making a complaint, many passengers will be put off bothering to complain if they know they will get nowhere. If more people complained about the issues they have suffered, I suspect it would take the gloss off the stats.


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