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NUTS! this is just a Loaded Nuts!

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  • 27-05-2013 9:59am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭


    full article here
    A campaign launched by UK Feminista and the anti-objectification organisation Object aims to put pressure on Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Asda and WHSmith to remove lads' mags from their shelves.

    If they fail to act, the lawyers threaten to bring a test case and will support employees uncomfortable with images of naked and near-naked women on magazines.

    "For too long supermarkets have got off the hook, stocking lads' mags in the face of widespread opposition, but this time we have the law on our side," said Kat Banyard, founder of UK Feminista. "Every shop that sells lads' mags – publications which are deeply harmful to women – are opening themselves up to legal action."

    The group says retail employees have told them they dislike handling the magazines but feel powerless to take up the issue with their employers.

    "One woman said to us: 'Those magazines don't do women any favours, they are appalling and demeaning to women, but what can little old me do about it?' Well, employees need to know they don't need to put up with it any more."

    Sophie Bennett, campaigns officer for Object, said: "Lads' mags dehumanise and objectify women, promoting harmful attitudes that underpin discrimination and violence against women and girls. Reducing women to sex objects sends out an incredibly dangerous message that women are constantly sexually available and displaying these publications in everyday spaces normalises this sexism."

    The lawyers' letter supports the campaign and urges high-street retailers to immediately withdraw magazines and papers featuring explicit covers from their stores.

    You couldn't make this up, The Daily Mash might have tried at some point before giving up on grounds of credulity being stretched to unreasonable levels.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    This is the type of crazy feminism that gives them all a bad name.
    One of my pet hates is this kind of feminism and stories like this really get my blood boiling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Pics or GTFO


    Funny thing is that you could substitute the term "Womens mags" for every time they say "Lads mags" in that article and the arguments would still be valid.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,419 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Totally agree(with the feminists)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    These type of people really give feminists a bad name. Will this case also apply to the dozens of daft women's magazines with topless pictures of male celebrities on the front complemented by headlines like "PHWOAR"


  • Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭Baneblade


    thats a load of nuts


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    publications which are deeply harmful to women


    How can they say stuff like this. They dont represent all women, least of all the women in these magazines. None of them are being photographed at gun point, they all do it very willingly and are very handsomely rewarded for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    Someone made a great comment on the news about how crazy this is...He said he was on a diet and seeing all these Cooking Magazines upset him too and he wanted them banned lol
    Sums it up perfectly I think.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shenshen


    So they're going to leave all the rubbish gossip rags, because of course they do marvels for the perception of women as rounded human characters with souls and deep thought. :rolleyes:


    I would regard myself as a feminist, but "actions" like this make me want to hide in shame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Fine, then ban all the celebrity women garbage magazines that have stories about "love rat" men or men and their dopey habits........

    ......and at least 1 story of a woman who made love to a ghost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    They are outdated and old fashioned, they will die a death on their own anyway, me cynically thinks this may be a bit of a PR stunt to draw attention to themselves.


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    They should ban women's mags too. Lets have non-gender specific magazines .. About kettles. You dont see many of those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    I like Kat Banyard. She has interesting things to say, especially about pornography.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    "One woman said to us: 'Those magazines don't do women any favours
    Neither do feckin gossip rags

    LOSE 20 LBS IN A WEEK OR YOU'RE A FAILURE

    If you don't like them don't look at them


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    "Lads' mags dehumanise and objectify women, promoting harmful attitudes that underpin discrimination and violence against women and girls. Reducing women to sex objects sends out an incredibly dangerous message that women are constantly sexually available and displaying these publications in everyday spaces normalises this sexism."

    One thing I really hate about that sort of argument, is that there is a very thin line between saying "Naked women on a magazine make men rape", and "Women in short skirts make men rape". It's really strange how, sometimes at least, Feminism verges on a past conservative belief.

    And of course the lack of evidence, or link of any sort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    They should ban women's mags too. Lets have non-gender specific magazines .. About kettles. You dont see many of those.

    You obviously don't subscribe to "Kettle Monthly" or "Irish Kettle Watcher".
    They're a hoot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Obliq


    I'd say ban em all. I don't get (and I'm a woman) how women's magazines are seen as any better for body image or perpetuating stereotypes about us. They're all a pile of sh*te. Ban those too, or leave the lad's mags where they are. I don't have to look at them, same as I don't look at the women's mags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Ban the womens' magazines too! Ban them all! :pac: The "celeb gossip", "real life" and "women's" mags are just as bad for gender perceptions. They're all about getting that perfect beach body (what's a perfect body?), how to attract men, ogling topless male celebrities and seeing who can tell the most scandalous sob story.

    There was a copy of Heat (I think, might have been Closer either) left behind in the hostel I was staying in last summer, I flicked through it one day out of boredom and discovered that they had a page entitled "Crotch Watch" where they zoomed in on photos of male celebrities' crotches. :eek: Imagine what would happen if a guys' magazine did the same thing...

    That said, I worked in a newsagents when I was 15 and I haaaated stacking the shelves with Nuts et al. Even more awkward when a man came up to buy one off me :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Devia


    Yeah I love how there's no mention of removing 'torso of the week' from women's magazines.

    Glamour models are paid very well for doing little to nothing. If anything the men who buy the magazines are being taken for mugs. But let's face the facts. Removing men's mags won't supress men's sexual urges in the slightest. I think that's the most delusional part of this ridiculous campaign. At least Mr Randy McRanderson is getting his thrills from a magazine instead of getting up to worse mischief.


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    El Guapo! wrote: »
    You obviously don't subscribe to "Kettle Monthly" or "Irish Kettle Watcher".
    They're a hoot.

    Thing is that the pot'll get annoyed, call the kettle black and then it becomes a race issue.

    Where does it end??


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,899 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I had a good aul chuckle to myself when I read the article. What ever happened to "if you no likey, no buyie" ?

    The demeaning and objectification of women may have some merit if the women in these mags didn't make a fortune from flashing their truppinie bits. I'd also argue that your as likely to see the same images in the sun or star newspapers.

    As for promoting voilence against women, give me a break. I'd like to know what this group were smoking when looking at these mags, purely so I never have the misfortune of having that kind of bad trip.

    You can be sure that groups like this will be looking for the internet to be shut down soon, "it's terrible Joe, nothing but that filthy pornography all over it".

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    What about womens glossy mags that stalk female celebrities and post photos of them without make-up as if it were some sort of victory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Devia wrote: »
    Removing men's mags won't supress men's sexual urges in the slightest. I think that's the most delusional part of this ridiculous campaign. At least Mr Randy McRanderson is getting his thrills from a magazine instead of getting up to worse mischief.

    That isn't the point of the campaign. I'm not seeing any evidence that the real reason behind this is some nefarious plot to remove male sexual urges.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Bloody tree huggers

    Have they taken a break from saving the whales


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    the mags that I think really do harm to women are all the tripe mags such as my wife reads which sensationalise every celebrity crisis such as some poor actresses cellulite on the beach ..these are real exploitation. They fawn over stars one week and savage them the next...really nasty catty stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    They are outdated and old fashioned, they will die a death on their own anyway, me cynically thinks this may be a bit of a PR stunt to draw attention to themselves.

    I highly doubt that. Their target audience, 16-24 year old males, or something along those lines anyway, arent going to just stop liking looking at boobs.
    In fact there are more of these magazines today than ever before. It looks like they're here to stay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Well they should ban women's mags too if that's the case.


    Oh wait.... every second person has already said that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Devia


    Sergeant wrote: »
    That isn't the point of the campaign. I'm not seeing any evidence that the real reason behind this is some nefarious plot to remove male sexual urges.

    Not blatantly.

    "Reducing women to sex objects sends out an incredibly dangerous message that women are constantly sexually available and displaying these publications in everyday spaces normalises this sexism"

    In reference to this. Removing magazines for people who want them isn't going to help the matter.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    I'm no fan of these magazines, they are either for hormonal teenagers or thick oafs with little chance of ever getting a woman. However, do these "feminists" not realise that they are putting lots of jobs (including those of women) at risk if they pull these magazines off the shelves? All for their own little agenda.

    Some women are obviously comfortable with their bodies being used in these magazines so they should respect it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    You obviously don't subscribe to "Kettle Monthly" or "Irish Kettle Watcher".
    They're a hoot.
    Pfft. Kettleweek is where it's at, although it is a bit like Nuts these days with the pictures focusing on the kettle's curves and lots of pics of steaming kettles :(
    corktina wrote: »
    the mags that I think really do harm to women are all the tripe mags such as my wife reads which sensationalise every celebrity crisis such as some poor actresses cellulite on the beach ..these are real exploitation. They fawn over stars one week and savage them the next...really nasty catty stuff.

    ...and rather than making the point that cellulite and blemishes are fairly normal, they instead gloat about the fact that the celebrity has it! Thereby reinforcing the idea that these things are 'bad' and 'ugly'. Pathetic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Do people actually buy those mags seeing as you can get everything on the net these days and for free


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