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  • 15-04-2009 1:53pm
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    Judomad
    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭


    Ok, im just back from signing on and being told to come back in again in 4 weeks which is the norn BUT and in no way am i racist or have anything against foreigners but the 2 lads infront of me where Eastern European and to my disgust they where both told they wont have to sign on again until SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!! Its from the Swords office and the reason they gave was because too many people where signing on.......Genuinely if i was an eastern european living here and was told that id be rubbing my hands and saying to myself that ill be going home for a few months during the summer and the money will be going into my bank account either way....Its no wonder the country is in sh!te these days!!!!!!!
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    #2
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    The money will not be going into any bank account.
    You (and the Eastern Europeans) will have to collect it at your local post office and will also have to bring valid ID with you.


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    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Judomad wrote: »
    Ok, im just back from signing on and being told to come back in again in 4 weeks which is the norn BUT and in no way am i racist or have anything against foreigners but the 2 lads infront of me where Eastern European and to my disgust they where both told they wont have to sign on again until SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!! Its from the Swords office and the reason they gave was because too many people where signing on!

    So what has the fact they're eastern European got to do with anything, if the reason is that theres too many signing on....?


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    Judomad
    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    Terry wrote: »
    The money will not be going into any bank account.
    You (and the Eastern Europeans) will have to collect it at your local post office and will also have to bring valid ID with you.

    I've always had to collect it at the post office so its a relief that from what your saying everybody has to do this, i remember reading here before that it was going into peoples bank a/c, its good to hear because its only fair that they have to show up every week like everybody else, just thought it was a bit weird that theyd to sign on next in September rather than every 4 weeks..


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    Dennis the Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Nodin wrote: »
    So what has the fact they're eastern European got to do with anything, if the reason is that theres too many signing on....?

    It's because they don't have any souls. So they get an extra allowance which goes straight into their offshore account


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    Professey Chin
    Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Tago Mago wrote: »
    It's because they don't have any souls. So they get an extra allowance which goes straight into their offshore account
    I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    WindSock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Judomad wrote: »
    Ok, im just back from signing on and being told to come back in again in 4 weeks which is the norn BUT and in no way am i racist or have anything against foreigners but the 2 lads infront of me where Eastern European and to my disgust they where both told they wont have to sign on again until SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!! Its from the Swords office and the reason they gave was because too many people where signing on.......Genuinely if i was an eastern european living here and was told that id be rubbing my hands and saying to myself that ill be going home for a few months during the summer and the money will be going into my bank account either way....Its no wonder the country is in sh!te these days!!!!!!!

    They won't have to sign on again until September because you will probably have a job by then.


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Judomad wrote: »
    I've always had to collect it at the post office so its a relief that from what your saying everybody has to do this, i remember reading here before that it was going into peoples bank a/c, its good to hear because its only fair that they have to show up every week like everybody else, just thought it was a bit weird that theyd to sign on next in September rather than every 4 weeks..
    The bank account thing was changed last year.
    They brought in the ID thing last week.


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    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Terry wrote: »
    The bank account thing was changed last year.
    They brought in the ID thing last week.

    Those on the dole before the change to the bank account thing still get paid into a bank account.


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    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    OP How do you know one or both of the men were not Irish?
    How close were you standing to the hatch to eavesdrop on the officer's conversation with both customers?

    Did you hear the officer say that they will not have to sign on again for a few months because there are too many people signing-on?


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    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Terry wrote: »
    The money will not be going into any bank account.
    You (and the Eastern Europeans) will have to collect it at your local post office and will also have to bring valid ID with you.



    Have they braught in the rule of id must be present when collecting ?
    i was sighing on yesterday and i swear there was 200 people at least cue's out the door ... i don't have to sign on till july early august its a bit of a piss take, there's to many loop hole's...

    for instance they sent me a letter to remind me to sign on, on the 13th of April which is a public bank holiday....

    I also have found if you act stupid you can sign on at reception meaning you don't have to wait in a 30 minute cue....

    Eastern Europeans have payed tax's like us all their entitled to the money.


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    swingking
    Registered Users Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭swingking


    Judomad wrote: »
    no way am i racist or have anything against foreigners but

    Don't you just love the way people say this :rolleyes:


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    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I knew an Irish lad who was doing something similar, signing on and then f***ing off to europe for a month or so, wasnt doing it everytime he signed on but it was on a regular basis.


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    Rented Mule
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Tago Mago wrote: »
    It's because they don't have any souls. So they get an extra allowance which goes straight into their offshore account

    Isn't every bank account in Ireland....offshore ?


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    Disease Ridden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭Disease Ridden


    Sigh. Another thread were everybody bends over backwards to show how un-racist they are. :rolleyes:


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    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Disease Ridden wrote: »
    Sigh. Another thread were everybody bends over backwards to show how un-racist they are. :rolleyes:

    Sigh. Another thread where someone wanders in and trys to be edgy.


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    Disease Ridden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭Disease Ridden


    thelordofcheese wrote: »
    Sigh. Another thread where someone wanders in and trys to be edgy.

    Do you mean to say that what I said is incorrect? Because it isnt. It annoys me that people in here feel the need to show that they dont have any racist beliefs; in my opinion you'd have to bend over backwards not to notice that alot of the generalisations made of other races by people are almost always based on substance eg. very few black people working on building sites and very often working as taxi drivers or claiming benefits, chinese people over here more often then not tending to be students and so on. Of course there are exceptions but I'm talking about generalities that we all notice every day.


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    Judomad
    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    snubbleste wrote: »
    OP How do you know one or both of the men were not Irish?
    How close were you standing to the hatch to eavesdrop on the officer's conversation with both customers?

    Did you hear the officer say that they will not have to sign on again for a few months because there are too many people signing-on?

    It was pissing raining and the Swords office is a little portacabin so yeah i was close enough along with everyone else who was close enough to stand inside haha, but yes i did hear the lady saying they wont have to sign on again till september and i could also hear the 2 men speak when are where confirming they werent mistaken the fact the dont have to sign on until September..


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    #19
    deadhead13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Why are posts that start with......"I'm not racist but" always followed with reactionary nonsense?


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    Judomad
    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    deadhead13 wrote: »
    Why are posts that start with......"I'm not racist but" always followed with reactionary nonsense?

    And can i note that yes i said im not a racist of any kind but.....and didnt go on to later make any racist comments so cop the f*ck on lads....i was simply stating that if these people had the money going into bank accounts they could go home for a few months if they wanted...nothing racist..


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    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Judomad wrote: »
    on.......Genuinely if i was an eastern european living here and was told that id be rubbing my hands and saying to myself that ill be going home for a few months during the summer and the money will be going into my bank account either way....Its no wonder the country is in sh!te these days!!!!!!!

    That what was happening and thats why they stopped paying the benefits into peoples bank accounts.


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    #22
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,977 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I wonder where Brian Cowen will be signing on........................


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    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    That what was happening and thats why they stopped paying the benefits into peoples bank accounts.

    Again only for new applicants after the rules were changed.


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    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Disease Ridden wrote: »
    Do you mean to say that what I said is incorrect? Because it isnt. It annoys me that people in here feel the need to show that they dont have any racist beliefs; in my opinion you'd have to bend over backwards not to notice that alot of the generalisations made of other races by people are almost always based on substance eg. very few black people working on building sites and very often working as taxi drivers or claiming benefits, chinese people over here more often then not tending to be students and so on. Of course there are exceptions but I'm talking about generalities that we all notice every day.

    I'd suggest you get a dictionary and learn what the word racist means.


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    swingking wrote: »
    Don't you just love the way people say this :rolleyes:


    No, I hate it that in this country we have to qualify any statement re. foreign nationals by posting/saying this disclaimer before the four horsemen of the liberal brigade come storming through.

    The OP is a personal friend of mine, he's an absolutel stand up guy. Train's and is friends with many, many foreign nationals & has represented our country abroad through his Judo and MMA with distinction.

    What I read in his post is the fustration of a young man without a job, or the prospect of finding one and the indignity of signing on the dole.

    .


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    deadhead13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Judomad wrote: »
    And can i note that yes i said im not a racist of any kind but.....and didnt go on to later make any racist comments so cop the f*ck on lads....i was simply stating that if these people had the money going into bank accounts they could go home for a few months if they wanted...nothing racist..

    I wasn't accusing you of being racist. In your op you claimed to be disgusted because the two lads could now feck of home for few months and then claim thats exactly what you would do in their situation. Bit of a mixed message.


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    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    deadhead13 wrote: »
    I wasn't accusing you of being racist. In your op you claimed to be disgusted because the two lads could now feck of home for few months and then claim thats exactly what you would do in their situation. Bit of a mixed message.

    I don't get that. They are seemingly being afforded an opportunity the OP isn't and would like. Why wouldn't he be peeved?


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    Judomad
    Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


    deadhead13 wrote: »
    I wasn't accusing you of being racist. In your op you claimed to be disgusted because the two lads could now feck of home for few months and then claim thats exactly what you would do in their situation. Bit of a mixed message.

    I am disgusted they are given the opportunity from the system, I dont care if they do it, its not me who suffers, its the country and things like this is why the country is in such a sh!tty state. I dont get why people in here feel the need to make smart comments when all im doing is stating a big flaw in the system....


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Judomad wrote: »
    I dont get why people in here feel the need to make smart comments when all im doing is stating a big flaw in the system....

    Because Gary, when you post anything which can be read as even the slightest bit negative about minorities in this country you give the 'higher than thou' brigade a platform to try beat us into submission with they're liberal bullsh*t agenda.

    .


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    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,977 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    If we had a sticky thread entitled "I'm absolutely, completely and utterly non-racist - but", any comments can be thrown in there without anyone being accused of being an absolute, complete and utter racist.

    Just a thought..............................................


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    deadhead13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Judomad wrote: »
    I am disgusted they are given the opportunity from the system, I dont care if they do it, its not me who suffers, its the country and things like this is why the country is in such a sh!tty state. I dont get why people in here feel the need to make smart comments when all im doing is stating a big flaw in the system....

    Where you or they making new claims today?


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