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  • 13-03-2020 8:14pm
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    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users Posts: 703 ✭✭✭


    So a friend works in a creche which is obviously under a closure order.

    They've been told to come to work as normal, full time each day during the closure, in order to deep clean everything every day.


    Is this legal? No hazchem training has been done.


    I'm encouraging them to go for it because it means they'll still be paid, which makes sense to me, but unsure as to if they're meant to stay home or not!


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    Rubberchikken
    Registered Users Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Why would a place which is closed need to be deep cleaned each day?


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    EverythingGood
    Registered Users Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭EverythingGood


    is it legal to go work is your question?


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    han2000
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭han2000


    I'd scrub the toilets with my toothbrush if it meant I'd still get my wages :D


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    road_high
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    I think it’s sensible to keep people working but you’d imagine they’d run out of work after a few days unless they’re going to redecorate which would probably be beyond their brief


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    Dav010
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    They are keeping the staff on and paying them rather than temporarily laying them off without pay, which is preferable to you op?


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    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Most preschools would be sterilisating ,some do it during midterms or on close Days ,
    I'd rather be doing something and getting paid than being laid off
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    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users Posts: 703 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Dav010 wrote: »
    They are keeping the staff on and paying them rather than temporarily laying them off without pay, which is preferable to you op?

    As I very clearly said in my OP, I'm on the employer's side! Seems totally sensible to me!


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    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users Posts: 703 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Gatling wrote: »
    Most preschools would be sterilisating ,some do it during midterms or on close Days ,
    I'd rather be doing something and getting paid than being laid off

    That's how I'm phrasing it to them myself. Makes far more sense to go in and find work to do and get paid


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    racersedge
    Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭racersedge


    We did this ourselves today. A proper deep clean of the place and means we got paid for today. Potentially, depending on circumstances, we will be in again to finish setting up the areas ahead of a potential return and ensuring all our paperwork and planning is up to date during this time as well (so we early years educators aren’t just off and on holidays as I’ve read in some of the other threads that we don’t do any work during this time).

    Personally felt it made a lot of sense to do it today as getting motivation to do it after a few days away would be a pain. We got clearance for insurance etc that it was grand for us to be there. I’d be in each day if it mean the wages were constant instead of needing to head down to the social welfare now come next week to see what the story is..


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    _Brian
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    Schools etc are closed to get the kids home.
    The workers are at no greater risk than any of us that have to work in offices etc any day.


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,264 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    So a friend works in a creche which is obviously under a closure order.

    They've been told to come to work as normal, full time each day during the closure, in order to deep clean everything every day.


    Is this legal? No hazchem training has been done.


    I'm encouraging them to go for it because it means they'll still be paid, which makes sense to me, but unsure as to if they're meant to stay home or not!

    Why would it not be legal ?


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    [Deleted User]
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    More importantly, are they qualified to perform this deep clean and is it in their remit?

    I can clean my house, but health and safety prevents me from cleaning my workplace using chemicals. It's also not my job, there's people employed to do it.


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    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    It's also not my job, there's people employed to do it.

    This would be an idiotic comment at the best of times.

    Welcome to extraordinary times.


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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    More importantly, are they qualified to perform this deep clean and is it in their remit?

    I can clean my house, but health and safety prevents me from cleaning my workplace using chemicals. It's also not my job, there's people employed to do it.

    If you were on the Titanic and you were told to operate the bucket to empty water, you would argue it was beneath you.


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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    ..........but health and safety prevents me from cleaning my workplace using chemicals.

    Clue: Do not breath in chemicals, aim nozzle away from face, do not consume cleaning agents. Just a guess!

    If I was in your work place at the airport I would be swabbing everything down with Isopropyl Alcohol. We are all in this together, pull together.


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    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users Posts: 703 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    More importantly, are they qualified to perform this deep clean and is it in their remit?

    I can clean my house, but health and safety prevents me from cleaning my workplace using chemicals. It's also not my job, there's people employed to do it.

    No hazchem training obviously but to be fair, it's not difficult to use cleaning chemicals properly. Don't breathe in bleach, sorted.


    I've convinced her to take the offer because at least her employer is trying to keep her employed and paid, which is good!


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    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    I can clean my house, but health and safety prevents me from cleaning my workplace using chemicals. It's also not my job, there's people employed to do it.

    Anyone who is not competent to read and follow the instructions printed on cleaning products should NOT be working as a teacher, for children of any age group.


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    paddythere
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    My mother is on a CE scheme working in a museum which will be closed. They have been told they have to come in anyway. As she is nearly 60, she will be leaving as it is not worth it for the extra 20 quid they give u for it. Perfectly understandable as she has to travel by public transport to get to and from the place


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