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09-03-2020, 10:29   #1
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Corona virus and marts

With the pandemic picking up pace, if Ireland sees many more cases of infection through people to people contact I can foresee large gatherings such as marts being suspended. That's the only way I can get my stock .
So my question is ,given that if I can't stock my land and claim my entitlements this year they'll be taken off me and go back to the National Reserve!
Will they go ahead with this given the unforeseen circumstances??
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09-03-2020, 10:33   #2
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Marts in particular would be a concern due to the demographics. At the best of days it’s a massive collection of auld fellas coughing and wheezing jammed in round the ring.
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09-03-2020, 10:40   #3
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With the pandemic picking up pace, if Ireland sees many more cases of infection through people to people contact I can foresee large gatherings such as marts being suspended. That's the only way I can get my stock .
So my question is ,given that if I can't stock my land and claim my entitlements this year they'll be taken off me and go back to the National Reserve!
Will they go ahead with this given the unforeseen circumstances??
Nonsense post.
Are we to risk the health of the nation in case you lose your entitlements?
Surely you can buy in stock in some other way such as direct from neighbouring farm or somesuch?
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09-03-2020, 10:43   #4
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Nonsense post.
Are we to risk the health of the nation in case you lose your entitlements?
Surely you can buy in stock in some other way such as direct from neighbouring farm or somesuch?
Most marts now days lads drop off the stock and go and the mart will ring u after there sold with the bad news would be a bigger crowd in a village shop.
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Most marts now days lads drop off the stock and go and the mart will ring u after there sold with the bad news would be a bigger crowd in a village shop.
No way are most cattle sold like that. Any time I’m in the mart it must be 95% cattle sold by Simeon in the sellers box. There would be a few cattle sold subject each mart but very few.
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09-03-2020, 10:48   #6
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Most marts now days lads drop off the stock and go and the mart will ring u after there sold with the bad news would be a bigger crowd in a village shop.
Its exceptionally rare for the seller not to be in the box at our mart and the place is packed every Saturday. Can be hard to even get parking at times when you come back in with the car after dropping stock earlier. So I'd find it hard to believe you.
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09-03-2020, 10:53   #7
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Nonsense post.
Are we to risk the health of the nation in case you lose your entitlements?
Surely you can buy in stock in some other way such as direct from neighbouring farm or somesuch?
It’s not a nonsense post ,the op is looking out for his business and being pro active instead of reactive
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Its exceptionally rare for the seller not to be in the box at our mart and the place is packed every Saturday. Can be hard to even get parking at times when you come back in with the car after dropping stock earlier. So I'd find it hard to believe you.
Last mart I was in was 400 plus cows going true the ring if there was 15 sellers watching on it would be about it lots of jobbers around the ring alright they get no virus !
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With the pandemic picking up pace, if Ireland sees many more cases of infection through people to people contact I can foresee large gatherings such as marts being suspended. That's the only way I can get my stock .
So my question is ,given that if I can't stock my land and claim my entitlements this year they'll be taken off me and go back to the National Reserve!
Will they go ahead with this given the unforeseen circumstances??
If you can't buy stock why would you lose entitlements. You won't get disadvantage payment without 0.15 lu/ha for 7 consecutive months but you can still claim your bps entitlements. And considering beef prices you might be better off
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Nonsense post.
Are we to risk the health of the nation in case you lose your entitlements?
Surely you can buy in stock in some other way such as direct from neighbouring farm or somesuch?
Nonsense post??
Yeah I have options.
Drive around the country picking up 2 or 3 here and there.
DoneDeal?
Or go to marts where sellers and buyers meet and deals are done.!
I am not putting the nation's health at risk, nor am I asking you to put your health or anybody else's at risk.
I was simply asking a question that if marts and other gatherings are suspended will the current rules regarding 2020 bps rules still apply.
Fcucking imbecile of a post
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Nonsense post??
Yeah I have options.
Drive around the country picking up 2 or 3 here and there.
DoneDeal?
Or go to marts where sellers and buyers meet and deals are done.!
I am not putting the nation's health at risk, nor am I asking you to put your health or anybody else's at risk.
I was simply asking a question that if marts and other gatherings are suspended will the current rules regarding 2020 bps rules still apply.
Fcucking imbecile of a post
What rules?
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09-03-2020, 11:24   #12
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Last mart I was in was 400 plus cows going true the ring if there was 15 sellers watching on it would be about it lots of jobbers around the ring alright they get no virus !
Were they mainly dairy cull cows by any chance?
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What rules?
That any entitlements not claimed this year will revert to the national reserve
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09-03-2020, 12:08   #14
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That any entitlements not claimed this year will revert to the national reserve
It may not be bps , but EU money generally
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09-03-2020, 12:13   #15
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First off you do not need to stock your land to collect BPS. For ANC it 0.15 LU over 12 months with 0.3 over 6 month. 60 acre farm needs 9-10 two year old bullocks or cull cows to draw ANC and ANC is drawable on an annual basis it is not affected by national reserve

Now marts were closed during the Foot and mouth and farming survived and DD was not in existence. No marts nobody billing you on price in a farmers yard
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