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21-06-2019, 10:10   #1
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Do you blame him or not, MP manhandles woman protester

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Should they be charging him with assault or not, should he be made to resign, given the shooting of MP Jo Cox, the "joke" of throwing acid and other things I think not, peaceful protest doesn't mean rushing up to a top table of "dignatories"

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21-06-2019, 10:20   #3
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Of course I blame him. Who else would you blame?
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Of course I blame him. Who else would you blame?
The daft lass for causing a scene. Plus she may have had weapons. Safety first !

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The lady for causing a scene. Plus she may have had weapons. Safety first !
She has a right to protest. He had a right to have her removed, but he didn't need to drag her by the throat. He only has himself to blame.
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I blame him. That is really disturbing.
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He grabs her around the neck and slams her into a pillar?

Christ, who are you meant to blame here?
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The lady for causing a scene. Plus she may have had weapons. Safety first !

He assaulted her. She didn't touch him.
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He assaulted her. She didn't touch him.
Potentially this could have been a terrorist attack ! Cause and effect !
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Question 1: Would it have been different if it was security grabbing her and hauling her out?

Question 2: Was the protester a man, would the same noise be made? Or would the MP been "lauded for his prompt action in the interest of everyone's security"?
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He wasn't employed as security, he had no right to do it.
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Should they be charging him with assault or not, should he be made to resign, given the shooting of MP Jo Cox, the "joke" of throwing acid and other things I think not, peaceful protest doesn't mean rushing up to a top table of "dignatories"
Tbh this is a difficult one and I suspect the optics are being managed to get as much publicity at the expense of Mr Fiels as possible.

Someone pointed out that had she been armed we’d be hailing him as a hero, and I think that’s spot on. In the moment what mr Field had to assess was an uninvited intruder heading directly for the governor of the BoE. In any realistic threat assessment the right action is to prevent that. That he did so with a relatively low level of force is actually pretty impressive.

A few MPs have jumped on the image of a male mp laying his hands on a woman, but really, where a possibility of armed threat applies and a split second decision is needed that idea is very flawed. Knives and guns don’t really care about gender I’m afraid. It was particularly shameful to have the likes of Jess Phillips play that card after what happened to her colleague Jo Cox. She isn’t the only one either, we have similar cases in recent years in Brazil and Scandinavia of politicians being attacked while in public places.

If any blame is applicable here it falls on the protest organizers, who decided it was a good idea to go for maximum impact by gatecrashing the event and putting their volunteers in danger. In many ways the protester was lucky, had there been a heavier security presence, possibly armed, this could have ended far worse.
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Whatever about your man, P45 for the security guys...
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