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09-07-2019, 10:39   #5896
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Excellent post. Hits the nail on the head.
People will feel the effects of Bailey/Farrell in their pockets for many years.
You reckon those two are largely responsible for high insurance premiums?
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The very idea of dodgy claims being referred to Gardai would be enough to dissuade a lot of people from chancing their arm.

Let our police force determine is they have a case to answer.
Actually it's the DPP who does that.
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The very idea of dodgy claims being referred to Gardai would be enough to dissuade a lot of people from chancing their arm.

Let our police force determine is they have a case to answer.
Might be time to refer the insurance companies to the gardai.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but shouldn't it be the government challenging the insurance industry and not an opposition TD. It is the job of government to protect the interests of the citizen and act in the best interests of the citizens. Although as I said FG have no credibility when it comes to insurance fraud.
It would be easy for FG to enact legislation to deal with attempted insurance fraud but why would they, that would be like "poacher turned game keeper".
Despite all the blustering he's as much part of the problem, - i.e. the inability of the Dail to get to grips with the issues around insurance claims. Legislation goes through stages including the type of committee he's on.
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Despite all the blustering he's as much part of the problem, - i.e. the inability of the Dail to get to grips with the issues around insurance claims. Legislation goes through stages including the type of committee he's on.
Ah wondered how long it would take someone to blame those that don't set policy. What legislation to deal with high premia and fraud has the opposition blocked that was brought forward by government?
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You reckon those two are largely responsible for high insurance premiums?
There are 2 wrongs here I guess (fraud and profiteering) but when government TDs are part of the problem and making money from the problem, they certainly help facilitate it.
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This article on John and Maria Bailey is interesting...
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2019/05/29...from-the-tree/
She didn’t lick it off the trees then..

If even half of that is true, FG are corrupt to the core.
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If even half of that is true, FG are corrupt to the core.

FG being corrupt is nothing new. Think M Lowery former minister for communication and DO'B.
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Ah wondered how long it would take someone to blame those that don't set policy. What legislation to deal with high premia and fraud has the opposition blocked that was brought forward by government?
How is it you've formed an opinion on a question you don't know the answer to? As always I'm happy with facts. Current Dail arithmetic means that almost anyone can propose legislation in this area. Policy is not legislation and I suggest you start with how legislation is produced.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/visit-a...laws-are-made/
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How is it you've formed an opinion on a question you don't know the answer to? As always I'm happy with facts. Current Dail arithmetic means that almost anyone can propose legislation in this area. Policy is not legislation and I suggest you start with how legislation is produced.

Your only interest in facts seem to be those that do no cast FG in a bad light. Are you seriously suggesting the opposition in the Dail is frustrating FG's attempts to tackle the high cost of insurance and the damage it is doing? Can you highlight what measures FG as the governing party has introduced but is being twarted?
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FG being corrupt is nothing new. Think M Lowery former minister for communication and DO'B.
FG used to maintain a higher standard as an alternative to FF. Lowry was expelled from the party years before Moriarty findings for example.
For whatever reason they no longer have these principles which is sad.
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Your only interest in facts seem to be those that do no cast FG in a bad light. Are you seriously suggesting the opposition in the Dail is frustrating FG's attempts to tackle the high cost of insurance and the damage it is doing? Can you highlight what measures FG as the governing party has introduced but is being twarted?
Me no. They are doing that all by themselves. Why does the use of facts somehow make someone a defender of questionable performance? As for the legislation there is a FF PMB, which is at the 2nd stage.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/ga/debates...2019-04-16/35/

Here's the timeline of such a bill

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2019/32/
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FG used to maintain a higher standard as an alternative to FF. Lowry was expelled from the party years before Moriarty findings for example. For whatever reason they no longer have these principles which is sad.
Was the Moriarty released and the findings acted on? DO'B was found to be a corrupt individual yet Enda Kenny when Taoiseach was happy to share the Dias at the NYSE with him.
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I am absolutely positive that Madigan is heavily involved. Time will tell.

This article on John and Maria Bailey is interesting...
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2019/05/29...from-the-tree/







The electorate in Dun Laoghaire must be a forgiving bunch.
That’s fairly damning if true.
And he got away with it.
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Here's the timeline of such a bill

So what has the opposition done to thwart FG efforts to deal with high insurance costs?
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