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05-09-2018, 20:18   #1
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Abolish the Dole

I believe the Irish government should cut social welfare payments drastically and implement a food stamp program similar to the one currently running in the USA. This would allow the government to free up cash to reduce borrowing and reduce the tax burden on the middle classes. It sickens me that people like Margaret Cash have the money for Sky digital subscriptions, shopping trips to Newry and computers with internet connections to post their drivel on Facebook. It has got to the stage were these people genuinely believe they deserve a reasonable middle-ish class lifestyle at the expense of the state. This may seem harsh to some but it is only fair that people that don't work live in abject poverty and are subjected to all the ills that such a lifestyle predisposes them to. I feel genuine rage that I am paying for other people's way through life; it makes me feel genuinely ill. At the moment the only viable alternative is to move to the US, a country where hard work is rewarded and the likes of Margaret Cash are left were they belong - in the gutter.
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05-09-2018, 20:20   #2
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Maybe thanks your rage and direct it at multinationals avoiding paying millions in tax every year. Easier to kick down though I guess
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05-09-2018, 20:23   #4
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You know that type of thinking is exactly what the elite want you to think . Blame Margaret Cash for all the problems in the country . I actually thought it was strange the amount of publicity her plight was given and when you see posts like yours it’s obvious why they allowed her so much airtime.

But they wouldn’t actually give the many many genuine homeless people that kind of publicity.

Job done by them I guess .
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I believe the Irish government should cut social welfare payments drastically and implement a food stamp program similar to the one currently running in the USA. This would allow the government to free up cash to reduce borrowing and reduce the tax burden on the middle classes.
If you want to save money on the welfare budget you cut pensions

Approx 7.6 billion spent on pensions each year compared to 2.1 billion for job seekers

Are ya gonna propose that OP?
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Is John From Carlow Andy From Sligos evil nemesis?

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well OP has a point maybe wrong example but smth like if one hasnt worked at least 5-10 years shouldnt be allowed on the dole if one is 18yold or gets knocked up let the parents pick up the slack, to many people well abled to work, get used to this free cash scheme, now being been on both sides its not a luxury life even if one doesnt have overheads, and not something one should rely on, i get some people fall on rough times but big majority see it as means of living that sort of life style, which gets easily passed onto next generation.


Thou theres quite few schemes on now where they put pressure on people but still to many loopholes for those that dont want any work, worst being the longer one relies on it the chances of getting back to employment goes down with each year radically.
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Still bitter about the Sugar Factory OP?
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It should be a safety net for when you fall on hard times after you pay into the system not a way of life.
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Maybe thanks your rage and direct it at multinationals avoiding paying millions in tax every year. Easier to kick down though I guess
Who provide thousands of well paid jobs.

Its up to the Government to close any tax loopholes that might exist, if they took their eye off the ball thats not the companies issue to sort out.
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I believe the Irish government should cut social welfare payments drastically and implement a food stamp program similar to the one currently running in the USA. This would allow the government to free up cash to reduce borrowing and reduce the tax burden on the middle classes. It sickens me that people like Margaret Cash have the money for Sky digital subscriptions, shopping trips to Newry and computers with internet connections to post their drivel on Facebook. It has got to the stage were these people genuinely believe they deserve a reasonable middle-ish class lifestyle at the expense of the state. This may seem harsh to some but it is only fair that people that don't work live in abject poverty and are subjected to all the ills that such a lifestyle predisposes them to. I feel genuine rage that I am paying for other people's way through life; it makes me feel genuinely ill. At the moment the only viable alternative is to move to the US, a country where hard work is rewarded and the likes of Margaret Cash are left were they belong - in the gutter.
How much tax do you pay OP? Now remove every service you receive from the state, roads hospitals etc, cant imagine you fund much after that
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I would stop all those pensioners heading off on exotic foreign holidays on their Social Welfare money. They get a lot more than the people on the dole. Make them spend the money at home.
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Most of the dole money goes straight back into the economy tbf
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They'll never do it because it would be political suicide and they would get voted out of the Dáil in the next general election. The €20 billion that is spent every year on welfare is way too high in my opinion but it's not all going to people on the dole!
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Where would you cut DontThankMe?
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