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08-05-2018, 11:43   #1
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The 'Drink Link'

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/...es-841535.html

"A new state-funded 'drink link' bus will service 50 rural communities across Ireland.The bus service will transport rural residents to and from their local pubs between June and December in a bid to tackle rural isolation.
People can also book a place on one of 30 new flexible routes to be brought to and from social events, such as a game of bingo or bridge, or to the pub.



The scheme will serve 19 counties including Kerry, Cork, Waterford, Kildare, Wexford and Monaghan and will operate predominately at weekends from 6pm to 11pm.





The service will be state-subsidised and will operate as an extension as to Local Link service.
It will cost the government around €450,000.
The pilot programme will run for six months before each route is assessed."
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How flexible will it be I wonder? At best, this will assist those lucky enough to live near a larger village or town where services may run to. I'd expect there to be vast swathes of rural Ireland without any service.
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From the Local Link website - "Our services operate semi flexible routes throughout Limerick and can deviate up to 5 miles to pick passengers up at their own doors", so it seems to be quite flexible in that regard.
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What a scam, this is only to try and shut up anyone opposing him, I really question has Shane Ross ever stepped outside the pale. Some counties getting a token gesture, Tipperary one of the largest gets two services both in the south so this is of absolutely no use to anyone north of Cahir the whole way up to laois, no service at all.
The we have the running times, 6-11, he has absolutely no understanding of rural life, the problem isn't getting out it's getting home, no taxi services, no bus services, no train service. What's everyone not on a route to do. Also nobody has any public transport to get to jobs in the morning so he's drink link is of 0 use to most of rural Ireland. I hope it's called out for what it is, a scam.

Easy for Shane to dictate to the rest of the country with a Luas outside his door where he can drink Dutch gold and get wherever he wants on public service.



Hypocrisy of the highest order from Shane Ross

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What a scam, this is only to try and shut up anyone opposing him, I really question has Shane Ross ever stepped outside the pale. Some counties getting a token gesture, Tipperary one of the largest gets two services both in the south so this is of absolutely no use to anyone north of Cahir the whole way up to laois, no service at all.
The we have the running times, 6-11, he has absolutely no understanding of rural life, the problem isn't getting out it's getting home, no taxi services, no bus services, no train service. What's everyone not on a route to do. Also nobody has any public transport to get to jobs in the morning after living in the country so he's drink link is of 0 use to most of rural Ireland. I hope it's called out for what it is, a scam.

Easy for Shane to dictate to the rest of the country with a Luas outside his door where he can drink Dutch gold and get wherever he wants on public service.



Hypocrisy of the highest order from Shane Ross
Whilst your right about Ross, he’s a waste of tax money what do you want for rural Ireland that will solve this issue?
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I wouldn't be his biggest fan either, but... they say they accepted every proposed route, and it's a pilot!
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Whilst your right about Ross, he’s a waste of tax money what do you want for rural Ireland that will solve this issue?
A proper public transport service, this isn't a solution. If you want to tackle it fast, make it a stipulation on taxi/hackeny licences that all areas have access to transport 24/7 where no bus or train service exists and those details are published. If we have to subsidize drivers for quite nights to be on call so be it, everyone gets home all the time just like in the city's.
It's needs to be a full country plan, for example if there's a big concert in Dublin Irish Rail will put on special trains. The one going south stops in Limerick junction and Cork so again no use to anyone in rural Ireland even though it passes plenty of stations to let people off.

The country is in a jocker due to the third world transport network, a good one would even solve a lot of the housing problem in Dublin, if it took 30 minutes to get from Limerick to Dublin on high speed trains you wouldn't have a housing crisis.
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What a scam, this is only to try and shut up anyone opposing him, I really question has Shane Ross ever stepped outside the pale. Some counties getting a token gesture, Tipperary one of the largest gets two services both in the south so this is of absolutely no use to anyone north of Cahir the whole way up to laois, no service at all.
Can't blame Ross on that one, it's due to the fact that nobody applied to operate in those counties. He said this morning that every provider that applied to operate the service was given permission, and those places with none is because there was no applications there.
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my wife grew up 4km from the nearest town, and my parents in law are still in the same house. most of their neighbours have no link to the countryside, apart from simply wanting to live there. it's their choice to live where they do, why should we be subsidising a bus service for them?

i've no issue whatsoever with providing a service to people who do have cause to live where they do, such as the farmers who are neighbours of theirs.
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my wife grew up 4km from the nearest town, and my parents in law are still in the same house. most of their neighbours have no link to the countryside, apart from simply wanting to live there. it's their choice to live where they do, why should we be subsidising a bus service for them?

i've no issue whatsoever with providing a service to people who do have cause to live where they do, such as the farmers who are neighbours of theirs.
Swing that around and why should anyone outside the pale subsidize the Luas, Dublin bus, Irish Rail etc. It's their choice to live in the city. I paid over €90 for a same day return ticket last week and the journey took about as long as it takes to go from one end of the dart line to the other.

My issue is there is no transport outside Friday and Saturday night, and Ross's scheme runs on Friday and Saturday when there's isn't a problem.

This lower limit is deadly in the morning time Monday to Friday and there are no services for anyone in rural Ireland. It affects them more than anyone else. Ross doesn't give a crap though not something that will ever effect him with a Luas outside his door.
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Swing that around and why should anyone outside the pale subsidize the Luas, Dublin bus, Irish Rail etc. It's their choice to live in the city.
one simple answer is that dublin and the other cities generate the tax revenue in ireland. i think only six counties in total take in more in tax than they spend locally. dublin is quite literally subsidising most of the rest of the country.

anyway, it wasn't meant to be an urban vs. rural thing. we should be encouraging people to live in or near towns and villages, but when i go cycling around north county dublin, i'm seeing a lot of one off houses (newly built or being built) which are nowhere near any services, condemning the owners to a life of car driving. why do we still allow this?

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Swing that around and why should anyone outside the pale subsidize the Luas, Dublin bus, Irish Rail etc.
They don't.
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Is this service free?
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one simple answer is that dublin and the other cities generate the tax revenue in ireland. i think only six counties in total take in more in tax than they spend locally. dublin is quite literally subsidising most of the rest of the country.

anyway, it wasn't meant to be an urban vs. rural thing. we should be encouraging people to live in or near towns and villages, but when i go cycling around north county dublin, i'm seeing a lot of one off houses (newly built or being built) which are nowhere near any services, condemning the owners to a life of car driving. why do we still allow this?
Yes because they won't share the jobs or put any transport infrastructure
outside of Dublin, back to high speed trains it's a little island it shouldn't be as difficulty and expensive to get around.

It is a rural versus city problem, two different ways of life, Ross is trying to bring in a new limit that will effect drivers with no access to public transport for getting to work or socialising. This doesn't affect people who live in city's. They have alternatives.
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Is this service free?
If you are entitled to free travel, yes. Otherwise you pay a euro or two.
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