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23-03-2018, 16:51   #1
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Couple in Kildare sentenced over 'one of largest welfare fraud cases

http://www.thejournal.ie/court-social-welfare-fraud-3920312-Mar2018/


Couple in Kildare sentenced over 'one of largest welfare fraud cases in the State'
The couple claimed rent allowance to pay off a mortgage that the husband got under a false name.

A 36-YEAR-old man has been jailed for two years and his wife received a three-year suspended sentence for what has been described as one of the largest welfare fraud cases in the State.

The combined fraud totals more than €400,000 and took place over a period of more than eight years.

Kenneth Gboboh and his 41-year-old wife Franca arrived in Ireland from Nigeria in 2006.

Both applied for and began to receive unemployment benefit. Mr Gboboh then established a second identity under the name Patrick Akim and worked as an IT project manager using this name. He also took out a €240,000 mortgage from EBS in 2008 using the name Patrick Akim.


But ruth koppinger tells us theres no welfare fraud?????

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23-03-2018, 16:52   #2
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I sense you are trying to tie two points together.
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Do banks not look for proof of identity when giving out mortgages?
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€400,000 for what will be 18 months in a prison, most of it in an open one.

Yep. Crime pays.
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But ruth koppinger tells us theres no welfare fraud?????

Link please.
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23-03-2018, 17:07   #6
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Will they have to pay any of the money back?

Presumably the now have a highly valuable asset in their name that was paid for by means of deception.
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23-03-2018, 17:08   #7
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I was wondering how long it would take a genius to claim that since these two commited welfare fraud all welfare is undeserved.

It happened in the OP
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23-03-2018, 17:09   #8
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Do banks not look for proof of identity when giving out mortgages?
Yes the absolutely foolproof and impossible to forge utility bill.
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fraud exists everywhere
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Yes the absolutely foolproof and impossible to forge utility bill.
They look for passport, marriage cert, utility bill, payslips and 6 months bank account statements....

So not just a utility bill. The bill is only used as proof of address, not ID.
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Turtwig; Did you delete the mob/populist-tainting-welfare-recipients post?

I was going to ask if you thought that the 'mob' in this instance are working people (those who pay tax).
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Can't wait till some one blames the bankers or fianna fail for this....
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Do banks not look for proof of identity when giving out mortgages?
They do, but they guy is a fraudster so obviously had legit fake documents for the second identity.
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I was wondering how long it would take a genius to claim that since these two commited welfare fraud all welfare is undeserved.

It happened in the OP
He didn’t say that and how could you have been wondering for any length of time if it was in the op?
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Presumably the now have a highly valuable asset in their name that was paid for by means of deception.

40,000 arrears on mortgage, house will probably be repossessed and then what happens, they go on the housing/homeless list and guess what, they get rent allowance.
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