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02-11-2015, 12:32   #1
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1939 Register

So the 1939 Register went online this morning on FMP. This is a UK/Wales census substitute, so limited value for Irish ancestors.

Disappointingly, it's not included in existing subscriber packages (I have the most expensive one too). They've been pimping it heavily for the last month but I never saw any advance warning of it costing extra. Their twitter is inundated with negative comments too. From there, I've gleaned that there is a 25% discount for existing users but you have to email customer service for a code, or something.
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02-11-2015, 12:40   #2
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Its so dear per family that I think the few records it could be useful for for me are going to remain unexamined any time soon.
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02-11-2015, 12:47   #3
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People born under 100 years ago are blanked out anyway.

Chris Paton's got a good initial summary on his blog.
http://britishgenes.blogspot.ie/2015...ister-now.html

Intriguing - looks like someone in that particular household had taken in a refugee child from Germany (going by the name).

Chris has updated now with a larger review: http://britishgenes.blogspot.ie/2015...and-welsh.html

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This is turning into a PR disaster for FMP.
Check out the comments:

https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/announ...424355718.html
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A lot of unhappy campers.
What were they thinking of when they decided upon this pricing scheme?
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03-11-2015, 09:31   #6
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I gather it was a lot of extra work done by extra paid staff. I think if they'd been upfront with the fact that there would be a cost, then this fallout wouldn't be so bad. Lots of people are saying they've contravened the UK Trade act and apparently the T&Cs were updated in September without any notification to users. Some people who renewed were quoting their renewal email which guaranteed access to all records on the site for 12 months, so they might actually have a case.

I'm a world subscriber and I've yet to get an email offering the one time only 25% discounted bundle. I'm sure glad I don't have a lot of recent UK ancestors right now.
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Requiring existing subscribers to pay an additional fee one would expect the records to be of high quality and worth the additional fee but from the comments I've read so far that appears not to be the case.
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Did Ireland have anything similar? One thing that jumped out at me from the review posted above was the fact they were able to release it early as it was not classed a census. We must have done something along the same lines...
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Did Ireland have anything similar? One thing that jumped out at me from the review posted above was the fact they were able to release it early as it was not classed a census. We must have done something along the same lines...
We had a 1936 census, they didn't - 1931 for England/Scotland/Wales and a 1937 part census for NI, 1926 for the last full one. So I don't think an equivalent was taken.

The GB 1931 and NI 1926 censuses have since been destroyed meaning the next full available after 1921 is 1951 so this being made available was going to be essential at some point - when NI and Scotland will release theirs is anyones guess though.
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They really should release the 1936 one next year. They could redact the "not dead" as was done in this. It's really only the ones that are dead we need to know about, we can ask the living (mostly)
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They really should release the 1936 one next year. They could redact the "not dead" as was done in this. It's really only the ones that are dead we need to know about, we can ask the living (mostly)
We've a 1926 one that's still being argued over...

Anyway - they've no way of knowing the not dead with a census, but with the UK 1939 register they've some knowledge of who died prior to the 1990s when it was computerised which means they can leave those who would be under 100 but are definitely dead in.
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I'm so frustrated. Have gone as far as I can with what I have
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I'm so frustrated. Have gone as far as I can with what I have
How far back have you made it?

The '26 census is going to be of most use for those working *forward*, looking for living relatives, matching marriages and so on rather than working backwards. I'm hoping it'll figure out a few family mysteries but they're all on branches off, not my own tree going back.
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How far back have you made it?
1824 on one side, 1787 on the other. THere's some questions about members of my grandparents generation & the one above that who are present in the 1911 (just) or who came in just after it - I've one unconfirmed person who was born three weeks after the census that I'd like to find out about. Also my Paternal Grandmother who was born in 1913 & died about ten years ago.

But I've also got a very interesting possible affair (& child of that affair) from a grandparent who would have been around then also.

I do want to work forward as well.
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Like most people, I was shocked by the price, when I saw it first. However, with the five pack discount and subscriber's discount, it is not quite so bad.
Secondly, I was disappointed that three children of a relative, were redacted, a surprise given that the relative had married 107 years ago. However I learned something intriguing regarding this relative's domestic arrangements, which has led me onto more research.

One feature that is superior to the census, is the date of birth, rather than age. This should mean a greater degree of honesty / accuracy, but we will never have completely truthful records.

Another bonus I found, was the household of a person working in an institution, included hundreds of inmates. It would be handy if I was connected to some of them.
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