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[DISCUSSION] Let's just give a family a house.

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  • 30-08-2013 9:01pm
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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    I was at a baseball game last night, and a wounded veteran was called out on the field with his family. He lost a leg in Afghanistan after an IED explored. A construction company donated a house to him and his family and he now gets to live mortgage free.

    There are 613,742 accounts on boards.ie, the current most viewed thread on boards has over 8,000 replies. We easily have the ability to put a family in need of help into a 3 bed house for €10 each if 10,000 of us chip in a tenner each.

    I'm sure everyone is feeling the pinch, but how about if someone didn't have to emigrate, or see themselves out on the street, or end up living with relatives?

    Could boards do this, and have the satisfaction of saying "Yeah, that house, we gave it to that family" I'm sure Santa Strike Force has come across someone who needs this and can suggest the family we do it for. We have also had the suggestion that a Priory Hall family gets it.

    I'm in. We can do this by Christmas.

    I pledge €10.

    Who's with me?

    Pledges here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86296658#post86296658


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    #2
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    I'm out


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    DublinArnie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    I like the idea, I would give 100 euros if I could.


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    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,059 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    MadsL wrote: »
    I was at a baseball game last night, and a wounded veteran was called out on the field with his family. He lost a leg in Afghanistan after an IED explored. A construction company donated a house to him and his family and he now gets to live mortgage free.

    That's not charity, it's organized pity.


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    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Giving away houses to needy families is a noble effort but it just won't fly in this country, especially with so many people up to their necks with massive mortgages to pay off. The Banks and Gov't wouldn't be too happy about it, not that they could stop it I'd imagine, but they'd find a way to make it less appealing.

    What would piss you off is there are thousands of houses are the country unoccupied as it is.


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's not charity, it's organized pity.

    Like I imagine the family give a shit.


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    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Would the family not be liable for CAT?


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    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's not charity, it's organized pity.

    Yup, Kickstarter for the pitied. Maybe I should've begged Boards for money to treat my dad.

    Oh wait, I'm not that effing weakminded.


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    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    This only plays into the hands of our property tax-charging corrupt overlords who are following through with the bank bailout.

    Its bad enough that im sticking around in Ireland myself for the government to bleed me dry in years to come I certainly wouldnt encourage anyone to make the same choice. If you see a chance at a better life by emigrating then go for it. Dont be a sucker like me, sticking around in this place.


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Augmerson wrote: »
    Giving away houses to needy families is a noble effort but it just won't fly in this country, especially with so many people up to their necks with massive mortgages to pay off. The Banks and Gov't wouldn't be too happy about it, not that they could stop it I'd imagine, but they'd find a way to make it less appealing.

    What would piss you off is there are thousands of houses are the country unoccupied as it is.

    F*ck the banks.
    F*ck the Govt.

    Let's just do it. A tenner each, c'mon.


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    PucaMama
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    sure. then all we have to do is not work, stay poor, look sad etc and everyone on boards will buy us a house.


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    Would the family not be liable for CAT?

    999 year lease.


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    DublinArnie wrote: »
    I like the idea, I would give 100 euros if I could.

    Can I start you off with a tenner?


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who picks the family for this benevolence? Will there be a draw?


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Mr Benevolent wrote: »
    Yup, Kickstarter for the pitied. Maybe I should've begged Boards for money to treat my dad.

    Oh wait, I'm not that effing weakminded.

    No-one is begging here, I'm proposing making an incredible gift.


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    Dtp79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Dtp79


    MadsL wrote: »
    F*ck the banks.
    F*ck the Govt.

    Let's just do it. A tenner each, c'mon.

    Who is gonna organise all this?
    Who would choose who gets the house?
    Who is gonna be in charge of all this money??


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    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    MadsL wrote: »
    999 year lease.
    So who owns it and pays property tax? Those who donated €10? Great, especially if you already own a home and this is classed as a share in a second home. If the family live rent free it is still classed as a benefit-in-kind and taxable.

    What happens if one of the co-owners die or are declared bankrupt?

    Nice idea, but not workable.


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    hansfrei
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Oh yeah. Lets say we give you that tenner. Whats to stop you feckin' off to Australia?


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    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Who picks the family for this benevolence? Will there be a draw?

    Like I said -I'm sure SSF has come across a family, or we could ask an organisation like Simon to pick someone.

    I don't think anyone involved should pick, I personally don't much care who gets it as long as they need it.

    A tenner is a couple of pints or a life-changing gift.


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    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Yeah, no I don't think so.


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    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    They could sell it straight after!


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    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I pledge a doorbell and a radiator.

    your welcome.


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    #23
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    WTF has Afghanistan got to do with us ??

    US spends one trillion dollars on "defence" a year

    The US army has a budget of $523,000 for each of it's active personnel per year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

    The problem is nothing to do with lack of money, it's just how it's prioritised.

    lookup the % of homeless people that were ex-servicemen




    Or look at it another way during the recession the net income of three months of the top 100 richest people in the world would end world poverty. THE PROBLEM IS NOT A LACK OF MONEY, JUST THE DISTRIBUTION.

    http://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressrelease/2013-01-19/annual-income-richest-100-people-enough-end-global-poverty-four-times


    poor people helping each other just means the super rich don't have to


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    Dtp79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Dtp79


    MadsL wrote: »
    Like I said -I'm sure SSF has come across a family, or we could ask an organisation like Simon to pick someone.

    I don't think anyone involved should pick, I personally don't much care who gets it as long as they need it.

    A tenner is a couple of pints or a life-changing gift.

    I'm in anyway. but there's alot of details need sorting before ya can ask people to donate. Maybe if these details were sorted ya wouldn't be getting negative feedback.


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    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    WTF has Afghanistan got to do with us ??

    US spends one trillion dollars on "defence" a year

    The US army has a budget of $523,000 for each of it's active personnel per year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

    The problem is nothing to do with lack of money, it's just how it's prioritised.

    lookup the % of homeless people that were ex-servicemen




    Or look at it another way during the recession the net income of three months of the top 100 richest people in the world would end world poverty. THE PROBLEM IS NOT A LACK OF MONEY, JUST THE DISTRIBUTION.

    http://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressrelease/2013-01-19/annual-income-richest-100-people-enough-end-global-poverty-four-times


    poor people helping each other just means the super rich don't have to

    "Do you really think we spend $5000 on a hammer?"


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    dmc17
    Registered Users Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Who's gonna get the house? We should all give reasons as to why we think we're the most deserving. I'll get the ball rolling.

    I think I should get the house, 'cause i'm great. In fact, I think I should get two of them in case I don't like the first one. Vote me! Thanks :)


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    #27
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Dtp79 wrote: »
    Who is gonna organise all this?
    Who would choose who gets the house?
    Who is gonna be in charge of all this money??
    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    So who owns it and pays property tax? Those who donated €10? Great, especially if you already own a home and this is classed as a share in a second home. If the family live rent free it is still classed as a benefit-in-kind and taxable.

    What happens if one of the co-owners die or are declared bankrupt?

    Nice idea, but not workable.
    hansfrei wrote: »
    Oh yeah. Lets say we give you that tenner. Whats to stop you feckin' off to Australia?

    I propose a pledge system. There is no tax payable on €10 per person given to you. They can own they house outright if needed, and the €10 pledged will be collected into one account to buy the house cash. I suspect the family will be liable for the property tax, but they would be paying rent somewhere anyway.

    I'd have to talk to the Admins but I'm sure boards could validate bona-fides and the fact that I or other organisers would have no access to the funds.


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    #28
    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    As per my previous post , does anyone know a plumber ?


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    #29
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    If Boards were gonna do it, they'd at least give it to an Irish family.


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    #30
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    The money can rest in my account.


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    #31
    my my my
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭my my my


    i'll do it too,

    i propose to make it 11 euro and add a small bit of land/garden space


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