Originally Posted by Ballyvoile Boy
All clubs were sent a text on 19th September inviting all players whjo will be minor next year to training. I asked our club secretary as my youngest brother is that age and he showed me the text, it came from John Quinn below in the city.
For the record, Tim Lenahan is very popular with the players I hear and I know Oran Curran from last year also involved. They played 4 matches in an U17 tournament recently in Munster and all players who wanted to be there were looked at.
And before you go there, I'm not Tim or Oran and I don't even know Tim to see to be honest, but the young lads coming back with good reports. A lot of the lads you refer to above played and were looked at during the U17 tournament. I don't doubt your passion, but its important to get the facts right. If players didn't get word of training then they might want to ask their clubs why not.
I am aware of this as Balinacourty club sec was sent this but it wasn't an open training session as only Conor Prunty/John Elsted/David Looby and Ronan Mansfield were allowed go to the training because the first 3 were county minor last year and Mansfield was u16. Not any minor was allowed attend. As Luke O Connor who was on holidays at the time of u17 training wasn't able to go. There are certain players on that panel who don't deserve to be there in fairness. They reason they are on it and everyone knows it's with a lot of players, they peaked early around u13 and other players take time. But if your telling me that Carthach Barry who started in the western/county final and Munster semi final for Brickey rangers at corner back, and was one of the best on the day doesn't deserve to start for county why does someone who came through u16 and u17 do but yet they have never once even made the bench of there intermediate/senior team. I get the idea of given them a shot but when it comes to show I'll go with the lads who have experience playing intermediate/senior football compared to the lads who played u16/17 county because playing intermediate/senior club football is around county minor standard.
From what I heard about four Brickey boys, I heard in the local a few weeks ago off someone who has played with these lads and it is, Carthach Barry last year choose county hurling, Maurice Daly never went to any trial however he was dragged up to the u16 tournament cause they realised his ability however Maurice plays East Munster rugby, Cathal Curran choose u16 hurling and Paul Whelan had the bone come out of his knee at 14 and missed 1 and half years but returned last year. All of these boys have said to the man I talked too that they would play and train if invited but weren't invited because they didn't play u16. Yet next year Barry will be centre back, Curran Wing back, and Daly and Whelan Midfield. In division 1 football in Waterford and two midfielders and and a centre back of a div 1 side are left out of the panel simply down to not playing u16/17 county. But yet Barry and Whelan who played intermediate this year are left out and have experience against big players compared to people who have only ever minor football. Not many are Barry's speed Daly's strength or Whelan's height/catch/kicking (about 6ft 3/4)
Is the purpose of there being a county having the best 15 on the field? Well already I say only about 10 of the 15 in minor are on the panel. There are other players neglected, Sean Crotty of Dungarvan who is again a midfielder in div 1 football who is 6ft 1 neglected. Even my own Club man Cormac Dwyer, abit lazy, but an incredibly skill full player, he may not start. But when the courty football centre back ain't in the panel there is something wrong. People need to tell the likes of Tim Lenihan and his backroom staff of these players. A Munster title isn't far from reach, it will take a lot of work, and money needs to be put into physically building some if these players. But it is possible, Waterford will never have a better chance at a Munster Title.
It will be another unfortunate year if already 5 of 15 aren't even been looked at that should be starting. There a few on the panel from ye east from what I heard however none are near the standard really, if you look at the teams in div 1 really only two are from the east. I am pretty sure this is div 1 football next year:
2) Brickey Rangers
5) The Nire
8) Spot playoff
I heard seeing as Clashmore (although they win div 2 last year) lost a lot of players there will be a playoff between the top four teams of div 2 last year, Rathgormack, St. Oliver's, Cois Bride, Clashmore. As you can see little eastern teams in div 1 despite there big pool of players and that's all down too them not bothered with football. And smaller western teams with small pools of players they go farther.
Soz again for the very long post.