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19-10-2011, 20:41   #1
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System 10 Weight Loss

Has anyone any idea of what this is? I am particularly interested in the 'measuring your metabolism' bit, how is this possible ?

http://www.system10weightloss.com/
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20-10-2011, 04:43   #2
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It just looks like a assessment, nutritionist plan, exercise plan. Pretty standard stuff. They aren't going to discover some secret thats holding you back.
Measuring metabolism is pretty simple. A quick test measures actual BMR. It might even be an estimation based on weight, food activity.
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I know someone who followed it and got decent results for a couple of months. Ultimately though, that's all she did it for. They effectively lay out your menu every single day, and there isn't much deviation from that. (from what I remember).

I do remember not thinking too much of the exercise plan though...all based around swiss balls from home. I guess it depends on what level of 'buy in' you're going to have, your level of fitness and if you're the type of person that can work off that sort of strict menu.

Of course this was also about 5years ago, so some of that may have changed.
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My Mrs did it about 5 years ago. She tried everything else i.e. Weight watchers , curves etc. Nothing else worked only this. She lost 35kgs and went from a size 20 to a size 8 and has never looked back and never put the weight back on.

But fcuk me she worked hard at it and still does. She mainly walks now and does about 10klms on the treadmill everyday.

Hope this helps.

Also at the start they get you to fill in what you would normally eat in a day etc and they go from there with your metabolism.
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My Mrs did it about 5 years ago. She tried everything else i.e. Weight watchers , curves etc. Nothing else worked only this. She lost 35kgs and went from a size 20 to a size 8 and has never looked back and never put the weight back on.

But fcuk me she worked hard at it and still does. She mainly walks now and does about 10klms on the treadmill everyday.

Hope this helps.

Also at the start they get you to fill in what you would normally eat in a day etc and they go from there with your metabolism.
so what you are saying is that in all the other methods she was really just faffing about and then it was the consistent hard work that was the key.

ANY system will work to a degree so long as its done with lazer like focus
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A quick test measures actual BMR.
Really ? what's the test ? I know the calculations alright but they are more estimate. I imagine someone actual BMR could be running significantly slower or higher based on overall health no ?
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Really ? what's the test ? I know the calculations alright but they are more estimate. I imagine someone actual BMR could be running significantly slower or higher based on overall health no ?
jasus dude who cares - train more, eat better. Its just a marketing tool to make you think you are getting some special extra bonus feature
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jasus dude who cares - train more, eat better. Its just a marketing tool to make you think you are getting some special extra bonus feature
Yep.

I got so fed up getting email from them over the years trying to get me to sell that 'system'.
Junk Mail ftw.
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so what you are saying is that in all the other methods she was really just faffing about and then it was the consistent hard work that was the key.

ANY system will work to a degree so long as its done with lazer like focus
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jasus dude who cares - train more, eat better. Its just a marketing tool to make you think you are getting some special extra bonus feature
I completly understand where your coming from ultimatly it takes the individuals commitment and focus and determination for any weight loss plan to work. But in my opinion you are like so many others missing the big picture. We all know that to lose weight you need to take in less calories than you use up. And put like that it sounds so simple but unfortunatly its not. The eat less be more active idealogy does not take into account why people overeat and for a lot of people, myself included, my eating is controlled largely by my emotions. Why this is I have no idea I wish I knew but doubt I ever will. I have a great life fantastic husband and family lovely job no big money worries the only major issue I have is controlling my emotional eating! I eat if I am happy, sad, celebrating, bored angry, you get the idea. Just like breaking any habit that is bad or has became addictive there is no one size fits all approach. Lots of people beat their different demons be it smoking, drinking, gambeling, anger issues by using different approaches there is no "one size fits all" for any of lifes problems and weight loss should be no different. Sure weight watchers and the like fail long term for more people than they do actually work for, but so does alcoholics anonomous and similar help groups. But for some people these weightloss plans do work something about their way just clicks and they go on to achieve their ideal weight. I really think its unfair that people are so ready to dismiss them so easily. Don't get me wrong I know that the main objective of the majority of these weightloss companies is to make a large profit. In an ideal world none of us would need any help for the multitude of problems that can effect human kind, we would all be able to take a "I will beat this myself" attitude and manage any problems we have. A little understanding of an individuals problems would go a long way towards helping them and less critisim when someone does achieve their goal in a way you don't think was correct would go a long way.
I have had my say and I am not interested in continuing to argue the point I just wanted to try and present a different opinion from someone who knows what a healthy diet is, takes regular exercise, eats well for all meals which are largely homecooked, knows what is required to lose weight but who suffers from triggers caused by my emotions which sends me off to the snack cupboard and can end up undoing days of a healthy eating approach in a 10 minutes.
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so what you are saying is that in all the other methods she was really just faffing about and then it was the consistent hard work that was the key.

ANY system will work to a degree so long as its done with lazer like focus
Transform I know you mean well, but sometimes the language you use is just so off-putting for lurkers and casual readers. I don't want to adopt a hand-holding approach by any means, but I'm quite sure that people who are trying these other methods don't believe they're "faffing about" at all.

ambman, a massive fair fcuking play to your Mrs, frankly I couldn't give a hoot what did or didn't work for her in the past, but to drop seven dress sizes is nothing short of phenomenal, and even bigger fair play to her for keeping it off - that's the really hard part.

System10 is just another generic weightloss system, I just wanted to highlight this lady's achievements without any kind of put-downs attached to it.
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Emotional eating my arse. We are all addicted to food.
As an ex fattie, I can assure you there is will power and there is no will power.
It's up to the individual. Period.
You can obfuscate the issue as much as you want but ultimately, for the overwhelming vast majority of folks, it is up to the will power to control bodyshape.
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Emotional eating my arse. We are all addicted to food.
I'd rather not emotionally eat your arse but to be quite honest, it's a very real thing. What matters is someone's willingness to address it. Of course if someone recognises it and does nothing to try and change it and/ or uses it as a crutch then my sympathy dries up pretty fast.
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I've a nice bum now g'em. Except for the stretch marks...
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Transform I know you mean well, but sometimes the language you use is just so off-putting for lurkers and casual readers. I don't want to adopt a hand-holding approach by any means, but I'm quite sure that people who are trying these other methods don't believe they're "faffing about" at all.

ambman, a massive fair fcuking play to your Mrs, frankly I couldn't give a hoot what did or didn't work for her in the past, but to drop seven dress sizes is nothing short of phenomenal, and even bigger fair play to her for keeping it off - that's the really hard part.

System10 is just another generic weightloss system, I just wanted to highlight this lady's achievements without any kind of put-downs attached to it.
I actually intended to start off my post with congrats to ambmans wife too! Fair play to her she did really well and at the end of the day it was all her own hard work that paid off.
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Emotional eating my arse. We are all addicted to food.
As an ex fattie, I can assure you there is will power and there is no will power.
It's up to the individual. Period.
You can obfuscate the issue as much as you want but ultimately, for the overwhelming vast majority of folks, it is up to the will power to control bodyshape.
You have presumbed that I am still overweight have'nt you? I am at a weight I am happy with and look good at I have acheived this through will power, I am definetly not addicted to food just because you are does'nt mean everyone who has weight issues is. As I stated I am an emotional eater 90% of the time I am fine but food will be my crutch when times are tough. Other people will somke/drink when they are stressed/happy, so what makes it so unbelievable that I and others use food in these occasions. I don't presume to know what works for others I can only speak for myself you should try this instead of making sweeping statements. Over and out
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No doubt you do!! Ah I know where you're coming from, emotional eating is used as an excuse only too often, but there's an incredibly strong psychological tie between stress and food, so I don't like writing it off straight away. It's the duration that someone uses it to excuse shitty eating habits that's the problem imho.
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