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18-03-2011, 12:38   #91
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AFP: Spain will allow use of two military bases and also provide air and naval forces for use in air operations over Libya

AFP: Belgium is ready to take part in military action in Libya offers services of six F-16 fighter planes and a frigate

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LATEST ::Libya Foreign Minister has declared an Immediate Ceasefire, says state encourages opening of all dialog channels

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18-03-2011, 12:49   #92
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Gadaffi blinked first


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1238: Libya's Foreign Minister says his country is committed to accept the UN Security Council resolution, and so has decided an immediate ceasefire and the stopping of all military operations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-midd...12776418#video
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France responds already

REU: FRANCE SAYS REMAINS CAUTIOUS AFTER LIBYAN CEASEFIRE ANNOUNCEMENT, "THREAT ON THE GROUND HAS NOT CHANGED"
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Which is now being regarded somewhat as a "stroke of genius". If a ceasefire is declared then the UN can't seen to be taking military action during the ceasefire. Puts the UN mandate in a difficult spot.

In the meantime his "police force" can continue about their business.

This is Iraq pre-2003 all over again. Nothing learned. If we want regime change - which seems to be the objective - then go in and do it.

What is worrying is that there seems to be very little political engagement going on with the rebels.
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Breaking: Italian aircraft carrier Garibaldi, left Taranto for Libya. According to the news it's "fully armed". AV8Bs Harrier on board?

Reuters: Doctor in Libya's Misrata says govt forces still shelling city, 25 people killed

Libyan rebel commander says the Gadhafi ceasefire is "not important to us" - AFP
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Libyan rebel commander says the Gadhafi ceasefire is "not important to us" - AFP
Does this mean the rebels will not recognise the ceasefire ?
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I wonder will we see Scuds being fired at Lampedusa again....
Again? has it happened before?
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Does this mean the rebels will not recognise the ceasefire ?
It does sound like they are dismissing it.

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Gaddafi ceasefire is a 'bluff': rebels

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The commander of rebels fighting to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi says the Libyan strongman is "bluffing", reacting to news that the government had announcement an immediate ceasefire.

Khalifa Heftir told a press conference the ceasefire "is not important to us"; Gaddafi is "bluffing".

"Gaddafi does not speak any truth ... All the world knows that Muammar Gaddafi is a liar.

"He and his sons, and his family, and all those with him are liars."
If the rebels still want to push to Tripoli and force Gaddafi out then they are not going to be too interested in a ceasefire that just maintains the status quo. Not to mention the fact that a ceasefire now might throw a spanner in the works for air strikes along with the no fly zone.

If the reports from Misrata are true then the ceasefire doesn't even exist (yet) anyway...

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On April 15, 1986, Libya fired two Scuds at the U.S. Coast Guard navigation station on the Italian island, in retaliation for the American bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi, and the death of Colonel Gaddafi's daughter. However, the missiles passed over the island, landing in the sea, and caused no damage.
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Gadaffi may have announced a ceasefire for worldwide media consumption, but his forces are still attacking. Misrata is under siege and being shelled as are towns in the South. Ajdabia is under siege.

There were reports that 2 FROGs were seen on the road to Misrata this morning.

There are two things I see as interesting
1. Will the UN forces help to break sieges? Misrata will fall because it has no water or power, simply if Gadaffi maintains the siege
2. Gadaffi was fitting rockets on civilian ships and using them to bombard coastal towns - will the UN forces be willing to sink what are ostensibly civilian ships if needs be?
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Al Jazeera reporter in Tripoli is hearing substantial loud explosions west of Tripoli.
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Photo taken today, 2 RAF E-3Ds and a U-2 at RAF Akrotiri.

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Breaking: Italian Defence Minister: "if necessary Italy will join the coalition with radar suppression assets" i.e. Tornado ECR of 155 Gr.

Italy has given Amendola, Gioia del Colle, Decimomannu, Aviano, Trapani, Sigonella and Pantelleria to the coalition of the willing.

Italian aircraft carrier Garibaldi, left Taranto for Libya. According to the news it's "fully armed". AV8Bs Harrier on board.

Netherlands Coastguard NCG03 Dornier 228-212 tail nr PH-CGN operating VFR near Malta.

Three USAF 318th SOS PZL M-28 Skytruck from Cannon AFB arrived last night at NAS Sigonella tail nrs N824KD, N319TW and N317JG.

Over Italy heading Malta: French Air Force E-3F Sentry tail nr 202/36-CB as FAF 9008.

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All within the last few hours.
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U.S. officials say attempts to ground Gadhafi's air force could begin by Sunday or Monday with the use of jet fighters, bombers and surveillance aircraft.
http://www.9and10news.com/Category/S...d=285248&cID=3

Could be disinformation.

Anyway, Obama to speak later this evening.
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Breaking: Italian aircraft carrier Garibaldi, left Taranto for Libya. According to the news it's "fully armed". AV8Bs Harrier on board?
Is it ever not fully armed?


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Here starts the problem. Unilateral cease fire by the government. None by the rebels .... is there a united rebel front? Will one rebel group decide to keep going regardless if an overall cease fire is declared? Which rebel group is more legitimate than the other?

Are we going to end up with a stalemate of two mobs with ak47s. Will the west provide military aid to the rebels?

Apparently there is also the tribes in the Libyan interior who have so far sat on the fence.
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