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27-01-2010, 10:18   #1
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Hi, im looking to do an engine conversion on my 1997 colt from 1.3 to 1.6 mivec. Its a jap import car so the engine just drops in. I found an engine with a zr gearbox ecu wiring loom and driveshaft for 1100 quid. engine has 110k km on it and is fully serviced. He wants 500 quid to fit the engine. So 1600 for a full conversion, is that a good price?
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27-01-2010, 10:19   #2
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don't forget the full brakes conversion too..

I wouldn't bother tbh. You'd buy a genuine one cheap enough..
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Sounds fairly cheap for a conversion, I presume it doesn't include stronger engine mounts to deal with the extra power?

The engine may just drop in but you will also need to upgrade the brakes as SV said, you will need to invest in getting your rear drums changed to a brake disc set up.

You should also look into stregthening the chasis to deal with the extra power and investing in a handling modifications to make it worth while getting the extra power.

The 1.3 will not have been ssetup to deal with anymore power than it has so giving it extra power without upgrading the rest of the car will be pointless.

I agree with SV a MIVEC engine conversation seems a bit pointless when you can get a proper MIVEC with all the extras for not much more than your spending, add in having to upgrade the brakes, chasis and suspension and just buying a MIVEC would probably work out cheaper
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Yeah i have rear disk brakes and new front brakes. The cheapest mivec that i could find was 3grand. Went to look at it and the gearbox was in ****e. have a strut for the engine, thats all i have at the mo for strengthening the chassis. I'm probably going to go ahead with the conversion as i've put a good few quid into the car already to get the exterior looking right. anything else i will need done after the conversion is done?
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Yeah i have rear disk brakes and new front brakes. The cheapest mivec that i could find was 3grand. Went to look at it and the gearbox was in ****e. have a strut for the engine, thats all i have at the mo for strengthening the chassis. I'm probably going to go ahead with the conversion as i've put a good few quid into the car already to get the exterior looking right. anything else i will need done after the conversion is done?

fire it up, Spend a good hour makin sure theirs no knocks, leaks or loose bits and your away.

are you decalring it as a 1.6 mivec or an insurance liability.
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Yeah have a mate who is a good mechanic, he is coming with me to check the engine before i get it. Im thinking about declaring it but quinn will probably screw me for insurance then.. 19 full license 2 years no claims and still paying 2,200 on a 1.3.....
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Yeah have a mate who is a good mechanic, he is coming with me to check the engine before i get it. Im thinking about declaring it but quinn will probably screw me for insurance then.. 19 full license 2 years no claims and still paying 2,200 on a 1.3.....
Well you either declare it or you're not insured at all and pay 2200 for a piece of paper.
and if you're not insured I hope to god you get caught.
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Yeah have a mate who is a good mechanic, he is coming with me to check the engine before i get it. Im thinking about declaring it but quinn will probably screw me for insurance then.. 19 full license 2 years no claims and still paying 2,200 on a 1.3.....
Theres no thinking about declaring it.

You have to, end of.

Its something you should habe enquired about as soon as you thought about an engine swap. You cant give out about the high cost of insurance when your thinking about doing something that is a major reason why premiums are high for everyone.

As SV said if you dont declare it your just paying for an expensive piece of paper, if you then did happen to cause a crash the penalties are far greater than I expect you think
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Rang up quinn 3200 on my own policy 1800 under my ma. Gonna go for for the name driver option. Yeah true if i did crash id be in the manure if the engine wasnt declared
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28-01-2010, 02:22   #10
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just buy a proper car to start with.
1.3 Colts are bog basic, and 1.6 Colts are hardly expensive.

I know of a Colt with a 2.0 V6 MIVEC conversion done - that's admirable, but a 1.6 in a 1.3 Colt will never be as good as a peoper 1.6
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TBH. Its not worth the effort unless you were seam welding, bracing and caging the chassis and turning it into a proper track car.

Breaks and Insurance going to be your problem.
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29-01-2010, 17:00   #12
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getting engine + brakes fitted next week. Ill have it declared week after. Insurance is 1400 from insurance.ie. Super
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Post the work your doing on here. Will be interesting to see how it works out
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29-01-2010, 22:45   #14
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will do, ill post a few pics of the car now, and after. Got a new exhaust ready for fitting for when the engine is in and 17" team dynamics alloys in red/black. Pics will be up tomorrow
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Sorry about delay on pics, will be up when i get a bit of time! Dropped the car down to get conversion yesterday, will be ready for pickup on friday. I have to get full brake conversion. Will i get standard brakes from a cyborg zr mivec or can someone recommend something better that doesnt come with a crazy price tag?
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