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07-05-2009, 14:21   #1
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Night Storage Heaters

hi there,

hope it's the right forum.

Just moved into a house with night storage heaters and have a question.

The heaters in the kitchen and living room (Dimplex XLN) only have settings for input and output (no numbers) and are set by two tiny dials in the fuse box.

In the fuse box, there is one dial for "Day" with settings from -4, -2, 0, +2, +4, constant and one dial for "Night" with settings for -4, -2, 0, +2, +4.

We've asked the landlady, but she is not really sure how to use them.

Can anybody help me out with figuring out what exactly these numbers mean?

Thanks a mil!!

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07-05-2009, 15:32   #2
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hi there,

hope it's the right forum.

Just moved into a house with night storage heaters and have a question.

The heaters in the kitchen and living room (Dimplex XLN) only have settings for input and output (no numbers) and are set by two tiny dials in the fuse box.

In the fuse box, there is one dial for "Day" with settings from -4, -2, 0, +2, +4, constant and one dial for "Night" with settings for -4, -2, 0, +2, +4.

We've asked the landlady, but she is not really sure how to use them.

Can anybody help me out with figuring out what exactly these numbers mean?

Thanks a mil!!

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Linked below, the instructions for using the dials on the Dimplex itself. It would appear that input controls how much heat you pump into the heater and output controls the rate at which you get it back out.

At a guess I'd say the fuse box dials are thermostat controls which can be set to give different temperatures as required. It'd be an unusual format but I can't think of what else it could be - especially in the light of a "constant" setting during the day.

It might be stating the obvious but the day/night settings on those dials will refer to the fact you have two ESB meters: a day (expensive) and a night (about half as expensive). Using electricity to heat on the day meter will be crucifyingly expensive.




http://www.dimplex.co.uk/assets/prod..._F48a_C71a.pdf
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hi there,

hope it's the right forum.

Just moved into a house with night storage heaters and have a question.

The heaters in the kitchen and living room (Dimplex XLN) only have settings for input and output (no numbers) and are set by two tiny dials in the fuse box.

In the fuse box, there is one dial for "Day" with settings from -4, -2, 0, +2, +4, constant and one dial for "Night" with settings for -4, -2, 0, +2, +4.

We've asked the landlady, but she is not really sure how to use them.

Can anybody help me out with figuring out what exactly these numbers mean?

Thanks a mil!!

Gagalina
AFAIK this is to start the storage heaters earlier or let them run later then the, 11pm-8am winter and 12am-9am summer, night rate times. You can also use it to reduce the time storage heaters are heating at night.
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Hi Gagalina,

What you have on the fuse board is called a Devi Reg.

You can find the manual here.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source...CABDptXHcIsPUw

It has an advanced way of adjusting the heat charge so that you get the same comfort level regardless of the weather outside.

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Hi,

That link appears to be broken. Do you have another to obtain the information? Thanks in advance.
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13-07-2009, 20:08   #6
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http://www.devi.co.uk/downloads/devireg/

Just pick your make & model number from the above list.
You shouldn't have to go near that controller in the fuseboard if it was set up right from the start

It does a comparison between the inside & outside temperature when the ESB clock calls the heating on & midnight & adjusts the amount of heat going into your heater based on that.
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19-08-2009, 19:54   #7
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Just wondering have you managed to sort out this problem? I'm living in an apartment with the same thing, having the same problem. It's not to do with the temperature as far as i can figure, because the time it comes on seems to be affected when you change them, not the temp, but at the same time can't seem to figure out what it is changing to when you twist the two day and night time things....Getting frustrated now
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Just wondering have you managed to sort out this problem? I'm living in an apartment with the same thing, having the same problem. It's not to do with the temperature as far as i can figure, because the time it comes on seems to be affected when you change them, not the temp, but at the same time can't seem to figure out what it is changing to when you twist the two day and night time things....Getting frustrated now
Haven't used the heaters in a couple of months, so not sure if I remember correctly.
The +2, +4 would indicate that the rads would take an extra 2 or 4 hours of electricity over the average.
Moving out again soon, so the next house will have to be gas or oil heating - I can't stand those night storage things ;-)
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04-11-2009, 09:45   #9
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Creda TSR18CW Storage Heater

I have Creda tsr18cw storage heaters and haven't a clue how to use them as I've had gas in all my old places.

I've had a look at a few different things and still can't seem to get it to work.

I have 2 switches on the wall beside the heater (none of which have led lights on them) one of these switches seems to switch on the fan heater - but only if I turn the input/output switch to 4.

I left the other switch on all last night and turned the input dial to 4 and the output one to 2 but when I got up this morning the place was still freezing - so eh guessing it didn't work???

I've read a couple of things about people having a green and red flashing light in their fuse box and that the red one should stop flashing and turn on permanently when the storage heating kicks in...ours doesn't seem to be doing this. We also have 2 little dials in the fuse box besides these lights for day and night that both point to zero.

We have an IMIT TA3 thermostat on our wall...no idea what this is for or if it relates to the storage heater...but I've fiddled with it and nothing seems to be happening.

Can somebody please tell me where I am going wrong, or how I get the heating to work, coz it's bleedin' freezin' in the place now.
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I'm in the middle of setting up our storage heaters.

In our place we have Devireg 710-2 control unit and Dimplex heaters all over the place.

In two bedrooms we have heaters with their own timers.


One storage heater in the hall and living room with on/off swith in the wall just beside the heater.


Second storage heater in the living room has two switches on/off beside and one of them has fuse as well.


Also that second storage heater has his own "booster" on the side wall.


When I switched on the button in the wall (the one with the fuse installed) the bulb inside the switch on the side of heater went red when ON.

A the moment this is the only working storage heater, as second heater in the living room and the one in the hall are still cold.

The gauges on the top of each heater are set up like presented on the pic. Input - 6 - for cold winter days (storing as much heat as possible). Output - 3 - for evening boost.


As mentioned on the beginning in the fuse box we do have Devireg control unit for storage heaters. As you can see on the pic there are only two gauges for Day and Night setup.


At present GREEN LED stays on at all times, but RED LED flashes with a few seconds intervals )don't know the meaning right now.

One more control unit is placed on the wall in the hall, but in my opinion it's for the water heating ONLY.


At the moment I'm waiting for the storage heaters to "charge" at night, and I'll see what temperature in the apartment will be in the morning.

If any of these settings are wrong please let me (and others) know.

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Very similar to mine DarasBB, excellent post and maybe stickied?

I never use the storage heaters, too damn expensive. I use Halogen heaters when I feel a bit chilly
I just heard yesterday of friends of a friend who had the storage haters on every day for 2 months and the ESB bill was 700quid!!
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Very similar to mine DarasBB, excellent post and maybe stickied?

I never use the storage heaters, too damn expensive. I use Halogen heaters when I feel a bit chilly
I just heard yesterday of friends of a friend who had the storage haters on every day for 2 months and the ESB bill was 700quid!!
I pulled night storage heaters out as soon as I moved into my house. But the night meters a handy thing to retain: clothes washing, drying and dishwashing are all done at night for half price.

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Apartment in nice and warm again, folks.

JohnnyBoy1983, Try my settings - it's working!
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Night saver timers

Hi. I also have two Dimplex storage heaters in my house, which incorporate both Night storage heaters, and convector heaters.

They've done the job for two Winters. However, over the last few days, I've noticed they were turning on much earlier than necessary, and absorbing electricity at the daytime rate, and then turning off after only a few hours.

I had never touched the controllers on the fusebox before, which had been set at 0 for both day and night so there was no change from previous periods.
Yesterday evening, I moved the "Night" hand to +4, and on coming home at 7pm today I found the storage heaters were already running. I then changed to Night hand to -4. After this change, the heaters came on at 10.00pm, still too early, but turned off again around 11.15pm.

I think the timer must be damaged, and I'll need to call ESB. Does anyone know what section or who to ask for?
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I think the timer must be damaged, and I'll need to call ESB. Does anyone know what section or who to ask for?
First, check the manual.

I imagine you will need to talk to an electrician, not the ESB.
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