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06-04-2009, 21:07   #1
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UPC win dodgy box battle!

It seems UPC have managed to cut off a lot of the people who use these illegal devices. About time!

It's all to do with Nagravision 3, which to date is unhackable.

Matt Cooper had an item about it on his show today. Click below, it's about 20 minutes into the show on Monday 6th April.

http://www.todayfm.com/Shows/Weekday...er/listen.aspx

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10 Years overdue.

I would think that if UPC hadn't taken over that disaster that was NTL it never would of happened.
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I never got into that rubbish.

I knew that UPC would stop it at some point.

I am glad to see they have.
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It was infuriating when these guys would tell all within earshot of everyone about the "great scam" they were pulling off in getting all these premium channels for nothing. They usually had a big grin on their faces as they told everyone. Well I expect e bay to be a bit busy over the coming weeks with these useless items up for sale!
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10 Years overdue.
It hasn't been going on for 10 years, so how is it 10 years overdue?
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Dosnt matter, its been hacked over 10 years, so thats why i say its overdue.

True its only mainstream in the last few years.

Sky always kept up to date encryption and never faced this problem, alot of damage has been done.
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It was infuriating when these guys would tell all within earshot of everyone about the "great scam" they were pulling off in getting all these premium channels for nothing. They usually had a big grin on their faces as they told everyone. Well I expect e bay to be a bit busy over the coming weeks with these useless items up for sale!
We have only changed to Nagra 2 the UPC boxes with the blue EPG need a new card also then it's Nagra 3 time.

The game is over.

I know the mods don't like Nagravision been talked about but since Nagra 3 is a secure system I am not discussing how to hack pay tv I have discussing how people can no longer hack it.

Here is Nagravisions official web site http://www.nagravision.com/
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mine is still grand.
That is because step one is a change from Nagra 1 to Nagra 2.

This has knocked out most boxes.

Nagra 3 will knock them all out.

Here is a site where you can continue your viewing www.upc.ie
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Not really, they have been simlcrypting N1 & N2 & N3 for a whille now.

All new cards are nag 3, which is secure.

The UPC DVRs have been running N2 since last year, so they have switched of N1 on the premium sports, movies ect.

so now N2 & N3 are left, they cant switch of N2 (unsecure) till the DVRs have N3 cards.

When the do they will switch of N2, leaving a Secure N3 only.

Which is doomsday for non UPC box.
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We have only changed to Nagra 2 the UPC boxes with the blue EPG need a new card also then it's Nagra 3 time.

The game is over.

I know the mods don't like Nagravision been talked about but since Nagra 3 is a secure system I am not discussing how to hack pay tv I have discussing how people can no longer hack it.

Here is Nagravisions official web site http://www.nagravision.com/
Thanks for the correction.
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Not really, they have been simlcrypting N1 & N2 & N3 for a whille now.

All new cards are nag 3, which is secure.

The UPC DVRs have been running N2 since last year, so they have switched of N1 on the premium sports, movies ect.

so now N2 & N3 are left, they cant switch of N2 (unsecure) till the DVRs have N3 cards.

When the do they will switch of N2, leaving a Secure N3 only.

Which is doomsday for non UPC box.
So it would be cheaper at this point just to pay the Sub then look for a Nagra2 dodgy box.

UPC have one the war just a little bit of a mop up left.
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It seems UPC have managed to cut off a lot of the people who use these illegal devices. About time!

Matt Cooper had an item about it on his show today. Click below, it is about 20 minutes into the show on Monday 6th April.

http://www.todayfm.com/Shows/Weekday...er/listen.aspx
Thanks for the link I did listen to it

Yes it was inevitable especiouly since sky had warned U P C they might withdraw their channels if something was not done about securing the signal.

The pity is when Murdoch started this whole revolution so much now that was free is now subscription only. it was not forseen that the least able to pay would be the big losers

pensioners,ill etc stuck at home 24/7,the ones most in need of good entertainment basicly told tough ,hard luck,We can make millions without you

Far be it from me to stop the march of history,still it is a shame,survivol of the fittest&the winners take it all

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It was infuriating when these guys would tell all within earshot of everyone about the "great scam" they were pulling off in getting all these premium channels for nothing. They usually had a big grin on their faces as they told everyone. Well I expect e bay to be a bit busy over the coming weeks with these useless items up for sale!
The cost of the dodgy box is the same as subscribing to the channels for three months. Some people have had their boxes for years...so somehow dont think they will be feeling too hard done by.
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Thanks for the correction.
Thanks but it does not matter anyway dodgy boxes are a useless purchase now and I think the message is sinking in.
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The cost of the dodgy box is the same as subscribing to the channels for three months. Some people have had their boxes for years...so somehow dont think they will be feeling too hard done by.
I am surprised it went on for so long.

Downloading free stuff off the net is still an option.
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