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22-02-2009, 21:07   #1
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[Article] Music-swapping sites to be blocked by internet providers

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Irma has identified Pirate Bay, the world’s biggest file swapping website, as the first site that it will seek to have blocked. It will then move on to ‘‘similar websites’’.
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22-02-2009, 22:13   #2
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"similar websites", there are thousands, they gonna block access to google as well?
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Yay, now they're moving onto blocking websites with questionable content. I believe I have a basic right to unfiltered network access, after all that's what I assume I pay for. That should cover the entire internet imho. I am totally jumping ship if Eircom starts this kind of bull.

Where does it stop? Will IRMA then look at streaming radio websites? Sure they provide music FOR FREE! They can't allow that kind of thing to go on! It's a slippery slope, as they say.
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i know the argument........"the likes of u2 and madonna are loaded who cares"..........but remember its the people down the line who gets pinched.....i.e. the aspiring artists, small music labels, record stores etc

There is no two ways about it.......if its copyrighted then you should pay for it.
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The case against Pirate Bay itself doesn't seem to be going too well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...e-bay-internet
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Yay, now they're moving onto blocking websites with questionable content. I believe I have a basic right to unfiltered network access, after all that's what I assume I pay for.
No you don't. They can block you going onto any website they want.
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will they block youtube as well
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No you don't. They can block you going onto any website they want.
how do they have the right to do this
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I believe I have a basic right to unfiltered network access, after all that's what I assume I pay for. That should cover the entire internet imho. I am totally jumping ship if Eircom starts this kind of bull..
There really is no basic right or human right in respect of this, you are paying for a internet connection and you agreed to T&C's and network policy when you subscribed to this service.

Basically if its covered by T&C's that eircom can do this then its perfectly legal, if however it is not presently covered then Eircom would need to update their T&C's first.

If IRMA get all ISP's to apply this then jumping from eircom won't make a bit of difference
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I am curious how IRMA would like Eircom to block sites, one would assume the easiest way of doing so would be by blocking it on their DNS servers but a fair number of people on boards.ie have switched to the likes of OpenDNS so that won't stop them I'd imagine.

I guess the only way we'll know is when they start blocking The Pirate Bay,
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I am curious how IRMA would like Eircom to block sites, one would assume the easiest way of doing so would be by blocking it on their DNS servers but a fair number of people on boards.ie have switched to the likes of OpenDNS so that won't stop them I'd imagine.

I guess the only way we'll know is when they start blocking The Pirate Bay,
Even if they tried any other way Tor would still work. bastards
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As I said before this is a slippery slope


If you are an Eircom customer, switch tell them they suck, they quickly change their minds once stupid decisions not based on legal precedent backfire on them and shave their profit margins


If your isp is threatened, contact the media! The IRMA are acting like a mafia racketeering organisation, once you give in to these people thats it your screwed

Whats there to stop them blocking sites like youtube or bebo? plenty of copyrighted material there, actually i hope they are stupid enough to do that, once little Mary cant polish up her profile and listen to the latest chart ****e heads will roll
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Whats there to stop them blocking sites like youtube or bebo? plenty of copyrighted material there, actually i hope they are stupid enough to do that, once little Mary cant polish up her profile and listen to the latest chart ****e heads will roll
They won't block these sites as they are largely seen as legit sites which operate within the law, the pirate bay and others are largely seen to operate outside of the law
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there are so many different ways around every type of blocking they *could* implement it's not even funny.

if china can't block it's citizens from accessing forbidden sites then i don't see that it will be any different here.

people may not be very aware of the ways and means to get around these things but trust me that as soon as stuff people want access to is blocked, they'll start to get very creative and methods of circumventing whatever blocks are in place will be come common knowledge.

and then you have the quagmire of European law to get though if you want to stomp on peoples freedoms on a large scale. i don't see them getting very far either way.
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