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17-11-2008, 19:32   #61
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The library used to have old OS maps of the area. I'm sure they're still there if people are interested.
Would love to see the later map if anyone has a copy. Does anyone know what year Killincarrig House (now the Golf Club) fell into disuse/ruin and why? I remember strolling around it not many years before the club restored it, while the house looked like it had been abandoned for a while many of the surviving fixtures inside appeared fairly modern.
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17-11-2008, 20:45   #62
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Great idea for a thread Sagat.

PixbyJohn, would you by any chance know or could you speculate why Charlesland is called Charlesland?

I've wondered for a while and made several inquiries but have drawn a blank.

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Charlesland may mean the land of the peasant man, coming from the English word churl. The word churl comes from an old English word ceorl, which means freeman of the lowest class.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/churl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churl
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Thanks for that Lance Vance. That seems entirely plausible and certainly the wikipedia entry would back it up.
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17-11-2008, 22:01   #64
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Charlesland may mean the land of the peasant man, coming from the English word churl. The word churl comes from an old English word ceorl, which means freeman of the lowest class.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/churl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churl
Surely that's a wind-up. I doubt the new developments there would have been so attractive under the name peasantland.
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It's amazing what you can find on the internet ... I just found this book preview.

http://books.google.com/books?id=MLX...&hl=en#PPP1,M1

Some old photos and stories.
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18-11-2008, 10:10   #66
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Surely that's a wind-up. I doubt the new developments there would have been so attractive under the name peasantland.
I prefer "churlsland"...

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18-11-2008, 17:34   #67
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Read that book, worth a read!
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Agreed Peter McNiff's book about Greystones 'Stories from A Small Town' is eminently readable and very informative.

Derek Paine's Photographic Histories of Greystones (Bray and Enniskerry), - there are a couple of them, are also very evocative.
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Do you remember being asked on the Monday if you went to Mass on the Saturday after the Friday confession ?
2nd Class, Br. Walsh. 3rd Class Br. ? 4th class, Br Donovan. 5th class Br. Brierton " Charlie". 6th class, Br. King or Chewy. There was also Master Ryle.
Mr Ryle later went on to be the principal of St Anthony's BNS in Kilcoole until he retired in the early '90s. I'm presuming it's the same man anyway.
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Yes, thats the same Mr. Ryle
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Don't remember a disco in the beachhouse!
But I do remember:
- The Baskervilles at the Stables
- The divine Garlic Mushrooms at the Wicklow Arms
- Cabanas
- The croquet lawns at the Back of the Latouche Hotel
- The Burnaby on Christmas Eve
- Queing to get into the Rugby Club on Stevens night, in latter years, buying tickets in advance
- ...and all the 21st in the Rugby Club...!
- All the old houses along the main street
- Byrnes antique shop beside the Burnaby and Beth Nells shop more recently
- Great lunches in the Burnaby

...the lists above are brilliant, there are lots in there - great memories! Now... I feel old!
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someone forwarded this thread to me in london and I love it... A few additions:
- when Hillside was "the pig field"
- sneaking out to bonfire parties on the south beach in Summer with generators and all
- Sitting and smoking over cups of tea after school in the Copper Kettle until we got kicked out by ...what was her name ? the snooty fat lady with the blond hair?
- Playing darts in the spit and sawdust bar of the Burnaby
- "New York New York" at the end of Cabanas
- The "strange movements" footprints appearing on the street/paths/walls

Someone should get the Wicklow people (is it the Bray people now?) to do a feature on this!
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23-11-2008, 16:15   #73
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Does anyone remember playing poker in the snooker room that was part of Saint Killians Hall ? There was a Bagatelle and full size snooker table there. The caretaker was Mr. Ned Earles and he always had a roaring fire going.
Also the Thrift club on a Sunday Morning in St. Killians, a savings club.
Now does everyone that knew The Shopping Basket remember who were the first owners. The Moore family were the first, Moore's supermarket.
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Heres a few more, anyone remember Agnew's shoe repair and sports shop. It was situated where Klass boutique was, right beside Walker's Garage (Hills).
Now remember Brady's forge where Brady's hardware is now ? Then it was Jim Hayden's panel beating workshop before he moved to the Church Lane in Archer's place.
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I remember Mr. Smullen who kept the boiler going in St Kevin's Christian Brothers school on Rathdown Road. Arthur Archer often kept him company as they sat there for the morning.
Anyone remember Arthur with his torch at the Sunday matinee in the Ormonde cinema.
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