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16-07-2008, 15:40   #16
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Some people don't like drinking fruit juices because of the high sugar/low fibre content.


I find them a great pick-me-up in the morning if my blood sugar's low, it wakes me up quickly and stops me feeling dizzy.
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16-07-2008, 15:51   #17
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if i was drinking shots of gin, bicardi or vodka id have different drinks everytime, its alot easier at home, but even in a pub you can have a couple of fruit mixtures, then tonic, then vegtable then a diet fizzy. chop and change is the key in my book

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, then vegtable
vegetable??????
like....broccoli juice?
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Whatever floats your boat, look online for vegetable smoothies recipes, try a few and pick your favourites, then just add alcohol when at the pub I mainly drink tomato or fruit juices. But ask the barman what he has. You might be surprised. Get your 5 a day the easy way and get langered in the process

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In unislim terms my bacardi and diet coke is only 1.5points. Tonic and slimline tonic actually have the same points value so just have your regular tonic if you can stomach it!
Really? So what makes it slimline then? But anyway....I had slimline tonic the other night with gin and it was nicer than regular tonic - we did a little experiment and ordered one of each to be sure - 2 out of 3 preferred the slimline!!

Gin would be similar cal to vodka wouldn't it? Or am I all wrong??
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16-07-2008, 19:25   #21
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i've found a website

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...s_in_pint.html


southern comfort and diet coke may be the best option according to this (for those of us who want to get merry but not flabby)

so i've found my answer

southern comfort and diet coke or vodka and 7up free or vodka/gin and slimline tonic.. that should keep me happy!!

i'm a happy camper!!


oh it also says there's more calories in normal tonic than slimline(but not much) and also, in terms of alco-pops-VK ain't as bad as the others! (it's actually low-ish in calories) smirnoff ice are the worst!!

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This might be of interest to some...

http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/...ch/alcohol.htm
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oh, actually.."weight watchers wine"? what's the deal with that?
It is simply a dry wine. All of the sugars are fermented out almost completely, turning them into alcohol. If it was only half fermented it would only have half the alcohol, then it would take twice as much to get drunk on, and you would be drinking lots of sugar.

Pilsner beers are brewed out until dry. Coors light is brewed out to completion too with little sugar left, however many stronger beers have less calories per unit alcohol than coors light. And they taste better and are cheaper (per unit alcohol).

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In unislim terms my bacardi and diet coke is only 1.5points. Tonic and slimline tonic actually have the same points value so just have your regular tonic if you can stomach it!
Many online sites are incorrect. Normal tonic has sugar in it, not as much as coke, but it has sugar, while slimline has artificial sweetners. So the normal one does have more calories, and should have more points, unless they rounded them wrongly, or more likely incorrectly calculated it. READ THE LABELS!!!! it is all there!!

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whats wrong with drinking pure orange juice for example. pure apple juice, tomato juice etc? peoples biggest concerns seems to be the mixers..vodka & water? no thanks id rather drink nail varnish remover.
Orange juice is ~11% sugar, as is apple juice. Orange juice has more calories per pint than beer. Milk has about 1.8 times the calorie as beer per pint. Drinking diet mixers is essentially like water, since there are negligible calories.

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i only really drink to get merry,
Diet mixers will increase alcohol absorption so you need less calories overall to get the same drunkeness.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/08/he...tml?ref=health


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Gin would be similar cal to vodka wouldn't it?
Gin is around the same, there is usually no sugar in gin, just flavouring. Many gins are 40% while vodka may be 37.5% so there is a little difference in calories due to that, but then you need less 40% than 37.5% to get the same effect, so same calories per unit alcohol


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southern comfort and diet coke may be the best option according to this (for those of us who want to get merry but not flabby)
That site is incorrect. Be very careful of sites, most on alcohol are incorrect. It is listing UK 25ml measures too, we have 35.5ml here. Do you know what southern comfort is?? it is a highly sweetened whiskey liquer. The site is obviously incorrect. SC is 40%, I think JD is 43%. with all the sugar in SC it would be way higher per 25ml than JD.

I would recommend rum or good vodka, but most vodkas in pubs are crap, while rums have less nasty alcohols, methaol and cogeners left over since they are brewed from sugar based brews. I stick to beer myself, I prefer it and spirits are an absolute ripoff in pubs, it would cost me about 3-4times as much to get pissed drinking spirits & diet mixers.
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Scotch n soda!! mmmmmmm...

Alcohol technically doesn't have 'calories' per se..as in you can't store alcohol calories as fat.. it converts to acetate in the blood which is burnt before any other fuel available.. thus storing all other calories that happen to be floating around at the time..
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Alcohol technically doesn't have 'calories' per se..as in you can't store alcohol calories as fat..
Many people equate "calories" with "a unit amount that makes me fat/thin". i.e. trying to do the math of 3500kcal = 1lb of fat lost or gained.

So they will view 500kcal of beer the same as 500kcal of coke in terms of "if I drink either they will put on the same amount of fat", but this is not usually the case.

Calories are a measure of fuel intended as a unit for engineering purposes, e.g. how much diesel will I need to burn to travel 50miles in my truck.

Calories are not tested on humans, i.e. scientists do not feed people say 10 chocolate bars and measure a gain of 1lb of fat, and then equate this as 350kcal per bar. They burn the "fuel" in a lab and measure the energy output. So a car might make efficient use of ethanol as a fuel, but a human might not. If I ate 3500kcal of wood I doubt I would put on 1lb of fat.

I know from personal experience that alcohol calories are very over-rated in terms of fat gain, studies have been done too. In the past week I probably had 10,000kcal just from alcohol, ontop of ~2500kcal per day, yet weigh the same. I know guys who would had 12,500kcal per week for 2-3 years religiously on top of normal food and remained underweight for their height.

Most "beer" bellys are really made in the chipper/chinese/pizza/kebab house on the way home from the pub.
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just to let you know... i've tried gin and tonic.. not a fan..

happily drinkin the vodka and 7up free!! doesn't bloat me either
happy days
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Scotch n soda!! mmmmmmm...

Alcohol technically doesn't have 'calories' per se..as in you can't store alcohol calories as fat.. it converts to acetate in the blood which is burnt before any other fuel available.. thus storing all other calories that happen to be floating around at the time..
Aha, so drinking on an empty stomach is the way to go- get drunker on fewer calories and there wont be anything there to store as fat if the alcohol is burned off \o/
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Aha, so drinking on an empty stomach is the way to go-
It is what I try and do, but goes against most doctors advice! but most are concerned about people getting too drunk and irritating your stomach, rather than calories. I have a cast iron stomach from years of heavy drinking. You can get drunk very easily, that is the usual warning, since most people hit the pub and just keep drinking. So if you do it on purpose be very careful, both for getting drunk and irritating your stomach.

Spirits have little alcohol in them though compared to pints, and the price of spirits & mixers will keep you in check!
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is "slimline" tonic the standard one used in pubs and clubs? or do you ask for it specifically??
You have to ask for slimline. They have it everywhere, "vodka and slimline please" should sort you out.
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i've found a website

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...s_in_pint.html


southern comfort and diet coke may be the best option according to this (for those of us who want to get merry but not flabby)

so i've found my answer

southern comfort and diet coke or vodka and 7up free or vodka/gin and slimline tonic.. that should keep me happy!!

i'm a happy camper!!


oh it also says there's more calories in normal tonic than slimline(but not much) and also, in terms of alco-pops-VK ain't as bad as the others! (it's actually low-ish in calories) smirnoff ice are the worst!!

I think I love you - Suddy and diet 7up is one of my favourite drinks but always thought it was loaded...

EDIT - Sh1t, Just saw rubadub's post - I read backwards

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