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01-11-2007, 10:18   #1
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milled flaxseed v flax oil

which is better to use, milled flaxseed or flaxoil.

to buy both these is expensive so if i was to use 1 which is the best choice.
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01-11-2007, 11:11   #2
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I personally use milled flaxseed 5-6 mornings a week. I don't have any reason for using seeds over oil. I did some looking after seeing your question though and I found the following here

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Although Omega 3 fish oil capsules and flax oil are quite popular, these products are missing the high quality protein available from whole flax seed. Also there are problems of greater concern with these items.


Certain fish oils are high in Omega 3 fatty acids -- dark-backed, torpedo-shaped, cold water fish such as cod, mackerel and sardines, as well as salmon. However, there is a major problem of contamination of fish with mercury, PCB's, etc. And you would have to eat a lot of fish to get a good supply of the Omega 3 fats.

Further, the Omega 3 fish oil provides only derivative Omega 3 fatty acids -- EPA and DHA, rather than the primary essential source, Alpha Linolenic Acid (ALA).

Many people have heard about and taken flaxseed oil. The problem is that this, like most oils, begins going rancid as soon as it is pressed. Exposure to oxygen begins the free radical formation that causes rancidity. The older the oil is the more rancid it is.


Nearly all fish oil and flax oil products are rancid. A significant amount of time has probably passed since the oil was extracted; and it is unlikely that the product has been refrigerated at all times. In any case, refrigeration does not stop the deterioration, it only slows the process down. So both flaxseed oil capsules and Omega 3 fish oil capsules are likely to contain rancid oils.

Organic flax seed is the food highest in Alpha Linolenic Acid, and the best food source for getting the needed Omega 3 fatty acids derived from it. Consuming high quality, properly milled organic flaxseed with a high oil content is the best choice for obtaining ALA. Milled flax seed has many tasty uses.
It appears that the essential difference is that the milled seeds contain extra fibre, protein and lignans.

It can be expensive. The best value I've found is in the Health food shop in Dundrum Centre. H&B are more expensive. If anyone knows where to source milled flaxseed cheaper, then I'm interested to hear about it.
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It can be expensive. The best value I've found is in the Health food shop in Dundrum Centre. H&B are more expensive. If anyone knows where to source milled flaxseed cheaper, then I'm interested to hear about it.
I buy the Linwoods milled flaxseed, you can get it in most Health Food shops, some Chemists and my local Centra! It's €7.99 per bag and that lasts me a month or so. How does that compare price-wise to elsewhere?

I find the milled flaxseed easier to eat tbh - I miss it in with my whey protein or in cottage cheese in the evenings for snacks.
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I buy the Linwoods milled flaxseed, you can get it in most Health Food shops, some Chemists and my local Centra! It's €7.99 per bag and that lasts me a month or so. How does that compare price-wise to elsewhere?
That's the same brand as I use and at the same price.

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I find the milled flaxseed easier to eat tbh - I miss it in with my whey protein or in cottage cheese in the evenings for snacks.
Ditto, I put it into my daily protein shake. You could also add it to cereals very easily. The milled stuff is easier to eat too.
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It's €7.99 per bag and that lasts me a month or so. How does that compare price-wise to elsewhere?
What size is the bag?

I've recently found some in tesco - can't remember the brand or the size (it's fairly small) for around €3.50 - will have a look when i go home!
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What size is the bag?
425g! It's a decent enough sized bag tbh, and I don't think it's grossly overpriced.
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I find the milled flaxseed easier to eat tbh - I miss it in with my whey protein or in cottage cheese in the evenings for snacks.
Isn't that the Budwig diet - is it preventative as well as therapeutic?
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Isn't that the Budwig diet - is it preventative as well as therapeutic?
ooh, I'd never heard of that until now!! I eat it because I love the taste, never knew it was a known dietary protocol

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The basis of Dr. Budwig’s diet or protocol is the ingestion of a special oil-protein mixture in the form of organic cold-pressed flaxseed oil plus cottage cheese or “quark” (a dairy product readily available in German-speaking countries made from various types of milk and roughly similar to cottage cheese), to balance an oversupply of omega 6 fatty acids and hydrogenated fats in the Western diet and to provide an immediately available abundant supply of essential omega 3 acids. Of all plant oils, flax oil is the richest source of these omega 3 acids (naturally occurring variations not considered, 100 g of oil contain 72g of polyunsaturated fatty acids, 54g of which are omega 3 acids). This oil is combined with protein (or more precisely, sulphurated amino acids** such as liberally found in quark/cottage cheese) to allow the highly unsaturated fatty acids to become water-soluble, thus bypassing the need for an (often) diseased or impaired liver to break down the unsatured fat by its own efforts. Quote: “The lipotropic protein connections, e.g. Cystein, as they are found in ... cottage cheese or nuts are able to make water-soluble the ...highly unsaturated fatty acids in seed oils. And that is what matters. When you mix together ... cottage cheese and linseed oil in your blender the fat becomes water-soluble” and thereby immediately available for use by the body. In this manner, the necessary “spark plugs” are provided for cells to “breathe”, optimally detoxify and function, even more so when additionally combining the flax oil cottage cheese mix with an optimised sugar-free diet devoid of respiratory poisons [substances which inhibit cellular respiration] but containing much raw organic food.
Taken from http://www.healingcancernaturally.co..._protocol.html
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greatstuff, that article was very informative. im training for sports and flaxseed is recommended
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425g! It's a decent enough sized bag tbh, and I don't think it's grossly overpriced.
As I suspected, the one I get in tesco is only 175g, Virginia Harvest cold-milled flaxseed - 3.50ish
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Yeah flaxseed oil is rotten, and apparantly it can get rancid quickly.
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Can I ask what the benefits of using flaxseed are and how ye incorporate into your diet. I saw it in Dunnes yesterday evening but didn't purchase as I wanted to ask you guys the benefits/uses?

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Flax is a great source of Omega-3, the same fat that you get from oily fish and you now see it in lots of other supplements too. It's a very important fat for your brain to stay healthy and many people in the Western World don't get enough of it because of our highly processed diet.

You can eat it as flax oil (as a salad dressing or over veg, you can't cook with it) or as milled flaxed seeds - the ground up seeds give you the extra benefits of fibre and protein. You can add the milled seeds to cereals, in porridge, or add to salads. Or you can use it in baking for making healthy (or at least healtheir ) muffins or cakes.

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Thanks Gem, I might buy a packet and use it with my bran flakes in the morning.
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I think it works out cheaper if you buy the whole seeds and mill them yourself - you can get an electronic coffee grinder quite cheap (got mine in the kitchen section in Clearys I think for about €30). Buy the whole golden flax seeds from a health food shop - these are apparently shelf stable (don't go rancid!) and mill a batch at a time. I don't know the exact price, but much cheaper then the packets of already milled. I keep mine in a tub in the freezer, then just sprinkle a bit on the morning porridge!
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