Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Locker10a · 17-12-2019 10:17pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

That would worry me actually. The fact that they ever delivered the South Gates into existance would worry me about them doing anything to connect terminal buildings.

I am kinda surprised an elevated walkway hasn’t been built from T2 to the south gates.

Noxegon · 17-12-2019 10:36pm

Unless I'm very blind there hasn't ever been an early (7:00am) DUB-DXB. I think you might be thinking of the Etihad service to AUH.

Stephen Strange · 17-12-2019 10:44pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Both the early and the late Dubai flight (7am and 12:55pm ish) occur during US preclearance so both are beholden to the 1 Gate, 400C.

That's Abu Dhabi you're thinking of, not Dubai.

Dubai is 11:55/12:55 and evening time (after USPC is closed)

zega · 18-12-2019 9:30pm

if a hypothetical 3rd terminal for Ulick was Ok’d,could the Daa not just refuse said terminal access to its runways?

trellheim · 19-12-2019 10:37am

Why does it need the 400c gate ? They all lead to the same INIS gates.

Jamie2k9 · 19-12-2019 10:51am

trellheim wrote: »

Why does it need the 400c gate ? They all lead to the same INIS gates.

It doesn't have to be however its only useable one early morning unless they moved to 300 gates. They could move to 300 if they really want a 3rd daily in morning.

goingnowhere · 19-12-2019 11:50am

Lots of reasons why they want 400C

1. Possible to use two jet bridges to split business and economy
2. Coming in via 400C passengers can be diverted down a secure corridor beyond the one way gates so they cannot access the T2 satellite connections centre and must use the legacy connections centre and go through security there. 400C It is the only gate in T2 which is setup this way.
3. Its the nearest wide body gate to the terminal

trellheim · 19-12-2019 1:04pm

Thanks for the answers.

BigMoose · 20-12-2019 12:53pm

What's the difference in the T2 satellite connections centre and the legacy connections centre?? I've often wondered what the point of those one way gates in T2 arrivals is and why they went to the effort to segregate passengers arriving at one gate to just after them.

steve-o · 20-12-2019 1:30pm

BigMoose wrote: »

What's the difference in the T2 satellite connections centre and the legacy connections centre?? I've often wondered what the point of those one way gates in T2 arrivals is and why they went to the effort to segregate passengers arriving at one gate to just after them.

No security check. Passengers from flights from EU and US don't need to be re-screened (but they do need to pass through an immigration check because of the CTA). The UAE isn't deemed to be security compliant, so passengers on Emirates flights need to go through security.

goingnowhere · 20-12-2019 1:33pm

The new location is between the arrivals and departures levels of the T2 pier. It has no security check, just ticket/passport. Only EU, US, CA flights may use this. Anyone arriving via the south gates gets dropped at a T2 gate so have access

If you arrive via 300 gates or via Dubai you get shunted to the original facility where a security check is required as you are mixed with others

The one way gates stops someone from Dubai or 300 gates going back into the T2 pier

Pat Dunne · 20-12-2019 5:32pm

steve-o wrote: »

No security check. Passengers from flights from EU and US don't need to be re-screened (but they do need to pass through an immigration check because of the CTA). The UAE isn't deemed to be security compliant, so passengers on Emirates flights need to go through security.

Why would you get a Emirates flight to DUB, then transfer to the EI or any other airline ex DUB flights to the US? Genuinely can’t see this happening much, if at all.

steve-o · 20-12-2019 6:29pm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Why would you get a Emirates flight to DUB, then transfer to the EI or any other airline ex DUB flights to the US? Genuinely can’t see this happening much, if at all.

That's beside the point. From a security standpoint, passengers arriving on a UAE flight (whether connecting or not) can't mix with "clean" connecting passengers, otherwise everyone needs to be re-screened.

Noxegon · 20-12-2019 6:30pm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Why would you get a Emirates flight to DUB, then transfer to the EI or any other airline ex DUB flights to the US? Genuinely can’t see this happening much, if at all.

I can see plenty of reasons for doing that. Flights from DXB to the US are hideously long for a start - it's good to get up and stretch!

HTCOne · 20-12-2019 6:47pm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Why would you get a Emirates flight to DUB, then transfer to the EI or any other airline ex DUB flights to the US? Genuinely can’t see this happening much, if at all.

EI used to get a lot of transfers from EY, do they still codeshare on EI’s TATL flights?

Stephen Strange · 20-12-2019 8:17pm

HTCOne wrote: »

EI used to get a lot of transfers from EY, do they still codeshare on EI’s TATL flights?

EY have a lot of transfers on to EI, especially in the summer (up to 100 of the morning EY pax can be going onto the UK and US with EI each day).

EK generally have no transfers, but any passengers they mix with are no longer 'sterile' and must be rescreened before travelling onwards.

pajoguy · 24-01-2020 2:19pm

Any updates and/or pictures of the construction of the Northern runway.

yannakis · 24-01-2020 9:07pm

pajoguy wrote: »

Any updates and/or pictures of the construction of the Northern runway.

Not sure if it's a closed group so I'll also attach it here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/DublinAirportSpotters.28/permalink/1208933755962716/

Kev11491 · 28-01-2020 6:35pm

Saw these on insta.

lawred2 · 28-01-2020 6:37pm

Is there an existing runway cutting across the middle of it?

Kev11491 · 28-01-2020 6:41pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Is there an existing runway cutting across the middle of it?

Yes

lawred2 · 28-01-2020 7:09pm

Kev11491 wrote: »

Yes

Is that to be decommissioned? If that's the right word

sparrowcar · 28-01-2020 7:11pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Is that to be decommissioned? If that's the right word

No
It will be a taxiway between the 2 main runways and a cross wind backup runway.

goingnowhere · 28-01-2020 8:55pm

Also a bit of the old 29 there as well

Elemonator · 28-01-2020 10:04pm

sparrowcar wrote: »

No
It will be a taxiway between the 2 main runways and a cross wind backup runway.

Can you fill me in on this? Is it only a crosswind landing runway? I know they do something similar in Newark. I can’t imagine loaded USA flights taking off on it.

Seems like the new runway is a little short for an airport that could position itself as a hub between the USA and EMEA. Any truth to this?

WishUWereHere · 28-01-2020 10:08pm

Elemonator wrote: »

Can you fill me in on this? Is it only a crosswind landing runway? I know they do something similar in Newark. I can’t imagine loaded USA flights taking off on it.

Seems like the new runway is a little short for an airport that could position itself as a hub between the USA and EMEA. Any truth to this?

I’m no expert, but I have seen Qatar’s planes land there, and their planes aren’t exactly 737’s or A320.

L1011 · 28-01-2020 10:25pm

Elemonator wrote: »

Can you fill me in on this? Is it only a crosswind landing runway? I know they do something similar in Newark. I can’t imagine loaded USA flights taking off on it.

Seems like the new runway is a little short for an airport that could position itself as a hub between the USA and EMEA. Any truth to this?

Its used most mornings for dual takeoffs if wind allows and otherwise used as a crosswind runway.

The new runway is an appropriate length for a US-Euro hub and realistically sufficient for any flights we're likely to get. The existing main runway was deliberately crippled to protect Shannon but aircraft improved.

goingnowhere · 28-01-2020 10:52pm

Current 16/34 is sufficient to take almost any normal landing aircraft, A330's land on it regularly.

If the wind is right you can get a A330 to SFO/LAX off 16 but that requires 20-30 knots straight down the runway. On a calm day only 10/28 will get a A330 (or even a A321NEOLR) to the US

Donegal Storm · 28-01-2020 11:44pm

Any reason they're not progressing with crossing the existing runway? Would have thought it'd make sense to do it now when things are quietest

Elemonator · 29-01-2020 1:12am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

I’m no expert, but I have seen Qatar’s planes land there, and their planes aren’t exactly 737’s or A320.

L1011 wrote: »

Its used most mornings for dual takeoffs if wind allows and otherwise used as a crosswind runway.

The new runway is an appropriate length for a US-Euro hub and realistically sufficient for any flights we're likely to get. The existing main runway was deliberately crippled to protect Shannon but aircraft improved.

goingnowhere wrote: »

Current 16/34 is sufficient to take almost any normal landing aircraft, A330's land on it regularly.

If the wind is right you can get a A330 to SFO/LAX off 16 but that requires 20-30 knots straight down the runway. On a calm day only 10/28 will get a A330 (or even a A321NEOLR) to the US

Thanks all.

L1011, any idea when the extended version of the new runway was canned? I actually know a few pilots and one of them is USA routes with Aer Lingus. He told me that the lost 500 metres or so meant that tons of load would be made impossible but that is wasn't a big deal. Showed me the 1960's? plants for Dublin Airport. Two 3500m runways and another one intersecting 16/34 in an X pattern.

Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

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