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New York Giants Thread

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  • #3782
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Garrett would be a lightening rod for negativity

    I wouldn't mind interviewing Wade Philips for DC though


  • #3783
    krustydoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    Wade Philips should be hired without interview as DC now


  • #3784
    Knex*
    Registered Users Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Joe Judge over Matt Rhule, that's unexpected. Not sure how to feel about that one...


  • #3785
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Knex. wrote: »
    Joe Judge over Matt Rhule, that's unexpected. Not sure how to feel about that one...

    No one does! Anyone who says they know is lying. Wikipedia in 2025 is the exception.

    What % of Patriots fans even know Judge exists? Wild few hours today for Giants fans.


  • #3786
    bruschi
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Kylo Ren wrote: »
    No one does! Anyone who says they know is lying. Wikipedia in 2025 is the exception.

    What % of Patriots fans even know Judge exists? Wild few hours today for Giants fans.

    he's been at Foxboro a long time so I'd be surprised if Patriots fans didnt know of him. Special teams have always been good, but then again, when you have Matthew Slater as your dedicated ST leader and captain, it helps massively. Plus, Belichick is a big ST man.

    however, Judge as a head coach? Seems a reach to be honest. I'd rather see him go through a couple of years as OC/DC rather than a WR coach and ST coordinator. Wish him all the best, but the success rate of Patriots coaches when they leave Foxboro has been spectacularly poor.


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  • #3787
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Of course some fans are very aware of him. But what percentage of fans of any team can name their special teams coach? Bet it's low.


  • #3788
    phatkev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Knex. wrote: »
    Joe Judge over Matt Rhule, that's unexpected. Not sure how to feel about that one...

    They didnt pass up on Rhule did they? I was under the impression he interviewed with the Panthers and took their offer without doing anymore

    It sickens me to think the Jets let him walk away because they didnt want him bringing in his own staff, but then turned around and hired Adam Gase and his cronies


  • #3789
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    phatkev wrote: »
    They didnt pass up on Rhule did they? I was under the impression he interviewed with the Panthers and took their offer without doing anymore

    It sickens me to think the Jets let him walk away because they didnt want him bringing in his own staff, but then turned around and hired Adam Gase and his cronies

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1214581904315424768?s=20


  • #3790
    phatkev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Kylo Ren wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1214581904315424768?s=20

    Given what the Panthers have signed him to I can kinda see why, thats a massive contract to give to a first time NFL coach


  • #3791
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    phatkev wrote: »
    Given what the Panthers have signed him to I can kinda see why, thats a massive contract to give to a first time NFL coach

    If you think he's your guy for the long term then you give him a long term deal. 49ers did it with Shanahan even though he was never a HC at any level before, though obviously had a lot of OC experience in the NFL. It isn't like the money is going against the salary cap.

    It is however hard to do that kind of deal if you aren't sure how long your GM will last or if your GM wants to keep all the power in the relationship. Another key thing was apparently how Rhule wanted money to develop a big analytics department, which I'm sure Gettleman wasn't signing up to (he already has his computer guys).


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  • #3792
    Adamcp898
    Registered Users Posts: 5,469 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Slightly unrelated but I did have a chuckle at the description of Judge in an ESPN article this morning. To them, it sounds as if you’ve hired one half of a buddy-cop sitcom’s protagonists.
    ESPN wrote:
    He is considered a no-nonsense guy who isn't afraid to ruffle feathers with players if necessary.

    :pac:


  • #3793
    wawaman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Judge confirmed

    https://twitter.com/giants/status/1215025235038285828?s=21


  • #3794
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,019 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    As a patriots fan I'm interested to see how judge gets in in the top job. He is highly thought of inside the patriots organisation and this is a massive step up, and opportunity for him. Very out of left field I know!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3795
    human 19
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭human 19


    From what I hear, I like the cut of his jib. A detail-minded no bulsh1tter, after 2 years of Pat Schurmer waffling away his mistakes rather than correcting them. Presser starting on Giants.com in a couple of minutes
    Lot of respect from the Pats players like "When Bill wasnt there, Joe ran the room"


  • #3796
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    He had a decent interview with Bob Papa on youtube

    I'll watch the presser when I get back

    He had a decent suit unlike McAdoo

    I know it's just words but he comes across as a no nonsense type guy

    Hopefully that translates to the team on the pitch


  • #3797
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Good start to the staff with keeping Thomas McGaughey as ST coach

    Overall we were decent on ST last year

    Now hopefully McGaughey can fix Rosas for next year


  • #3798
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    I don't think I've seen a press conference as packed with cliches and coach speak. Can see how Gettlemen and whoever hired Gettleman would have liked his interview.

    He came across very Belichick like with a lot of his outlook which is great if you're winning but we've seen the pushback that other coaches from that tree have had implementing that kind of culture, especially when they aren't successful initially.

    Don't think anyone can really assess the hire at this stage but with his lack of OC or DC skills, he'll likely succeed or fail based on who he can attract to those positions.


  • #3799
    human 19
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭human 19


    He didnt want to get into specifics about anything as he hasnt spoken to any of the players or looked at what they can or can't do. I've no problem with that. All he could do now was set out a general picture of what sort of team he wants.

    I got the distinct impression that he is going to look at all the players individually and see how they can be best used, see how they can be improved and work with them, as opposed to last year where a player is stuck in a failing position for numerous games without changing anything .

    I love the fact that he spoke so much about fundamentals, like tackling. Beating the player in front of you, before trying to run any fancy schemes.


  • #3800
    wawaman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Jason Garret is interviewing with the giants today for OC


  • #3801
    human 19
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭human 19


    I bokmarked this vid after the draft last year, when I was gutted and looking around for some hope. I hoped I could look at it a year later later and have a laugh. Just had a chuckle now, watching it again.



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  • #3802
    human 19
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭human 19


    wawaman wrote: »
    Jason Garret is interviewing with the giants today for OC

    What must it be like for a HC to be sacked and go to another team, to work under someone who was a special teams coordinator the previous year?


  • #3803
    krustydoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    wawaman wrote:
    Jason Garret is interviewing with the giants today for OC


    He got the job.. Confirmed this evening


  • #3804
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    krustydoyle wrote: »
    He got the job.. Confirmed this evening

    Not overly impressed by those Giants hires. I'm not in principle against going with ST coaches as HCs but if you're going to go that route you really need to support them with a top tier OC and/or DC and it doesn't appear like they've done that at all.


  • #3805
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Not overly impressed by those Giants hires. I'm not in principle against going with ST coaches as HCs

    It's a far worse idea to hire a Pats assistant for any job - never works out.


  • #3806
    Knex*
    Registered Users Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    I'm a lot more comfortable with these hires and the direction the franchise is moving in than I've been in a long while tbh.


  • #3807
    krustydoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    Eli just retired. What a legend.. He's surely getting into the HOF


  • #3808
    wawaman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭wawaman


    krustydoyle wrote: »
    Eli just retired. What a legend.. He's surely getting into the HOF

    2 super bowl rings should mean he does


  • #3809
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,437 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I see Eli has retired. As a eagles fan I hoped that the eagles beat the giants but Eli as a person when he was dropped by mcadont and when Daniel jones was made started you can’t fault the guy for the class in how he handled those situations.


  • #3810
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    krustydoyle wrote: »
    Eli just retired. What a legend.. He's surely getting into the HOF

    I wouldn't have him in there but between the crazy US sport focus on championships equating to individual greatness and the Manning name I'd be surprised if he didn't.

    Wish he'd retired sooner though, it is hard not to have his performances over the last few years taint what he was like at his peak (I await blame of every member of the Giants roster for how he looked :rolleyes:).


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  • #3811
    tgdaly
    Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    Although it was the right decision probably to retire, I'm still sad to see it happen. I've supported the Giants ever since I picked them as my first team playing Madden 05 on the PS2 as a young teen, I don't think rookies even had profile pics on those older games but I still remember the name Eli Manning as my qb.

    Thanks for the memories Eli, and you'll always be our qb, go G-men!


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