Architectural Technologist Register

MDGAT wrote: »

Hi all,

I'm looking for an expression of interest in forming a new statutory Architectural Technologists Register. We need to start networking and getting names and numbers in order that we can commence a program to lobby our local politicians.

We have much to offer to the construction industry, I see this as finally a great opportunity to have my profession recognised. I'm a proud Architectural Technologist, we need to let the public know who we are and what we do.

We have no other option now but to organise and lobby.

M

Hi M,

There is a collective of 800 members on the "Architectural Technology in Ireland" group on LinkedIn and some good discussions.....not sure of the make up of the 800 or how many pay attention but it's something.

Also, the "Irish Architectural Technology Graduate Network (IATGN)" have a facebook page.......it would be a good start for all involved to at least go to both of those sites to communicate i think!

Jimmy

Lads, I don't want to be a killjoy or dampen enthusiasm too much, but what you're talking about - building a professional representative body, from scratch, to be recognised by the government as a competent organisation to hold a register - is likely to take years (5-10 possibly), particularly with Hogan in charge. It is an extremely long road to get from zero to protected title in Ireland – took the RIAI over 50 years! I was very slightly involved in the IATGN previously and the obstacles were massive.

IMO, we're better off adding our collective weight to an already established body with a track record of maintaining a register, have achieved recognition in the EU, have competencies assessed, mapped and recognised against other professional bodies.

Due to the RIAI shafting us the CIAT are the only route I can see and, if theres enough of a membership, its likely they'll set up a dedicated office in Ireland.

Its the route I'm pursuing anyway - have RIAI tech membership at the moment and have joined the CIAT as a profile candidate to get chartered through the professional assessment route.

Hi All,

Count me in too; I will contact all my fellow peers & ask for them to support us as well (I am sure they will).

I agree with Corkblowin; I think we need to rally in behind the CIAT. We need more renegotiation for what we do; we need to let the public know what we do. I for one am sick of people calling me a draughtsman & saying to me 'why don't you back to college & finish off your architecture degree'. In their eyes they think that I / we are am someone that bailed out of an architecture course & now have no qualification.

Also,
I was talking to a chartered surveyor recently; & he could not understand how he could certify under the new regs. & Arch. Tech.s cant. he continued by saying that he knows very little in the way of detailing etc. Make no mistake about it; WE ARE the most suitable professionals to be issuing certs under the new regs.

We need to come together & make ourselves heard.

It may be a better option to get together ourselves first......then go as a large group to Ciat and say....here we are 100 200 300 whatever, are you going to take legal action against the irish state? If so we will join. Money talks.....100 x 70 (membership as assoc till may) is 7000. Pretty modest but you can see how larger numbers wud strengthen our hand. If we join in bits and drabs it may not be the best route but i understand why people are....

MDGAT wrote: »

It doesnt matter whether you are CIAT, RIAI, Non member........

It matters that you express an interest in having a register for YOUR Profession.

Lets get the names and numbers together first. Then a campaign can be started.

The CIAT are already organised and have already made statements of complaint AFAIK. It seems the RIAI are only interested in blocking our accession to any register. I know who I'd be rowing in behind.

Up until now their has been limited benifit in joining either organisation. Maybe this is the stimulus we need to take our profession serious and take action to protect ourselves from extinction. I'd like to see a strong AT network evolving.

Glebee wrote: »

Is there much involved in joining CIAT???

No there isn't contact James Banks in London, get on the website and all the details are there, http://www.ciat.org.uk/

IATGN tried to do the IRISH thing, it failed miserably unfortunately, CIAT have 10,000 members worldwide, they are our only hope as Architectural Technologists, some of us can convert to other professions but not all.

Join the Linkedin page and after you join CIAT the CIAT Member Hub also on linkedin, Don't worry about the Guy who started the Irish page, I will always give him a hard time when he goes on about settling for second best!!

The fence has collapsed, its time to get off it!!

Again, I would say, please "Like" the IATGN page on Facebook and join the Architectural Technology in Ireland Group on LinkedIn.

These seem to be the best places to keep up to date on issues......even as we speak....

Thanks folks.

topcatcbr wrote: »

I still cannot find the IATGN page on facebook. I did a search and nothing came up

https://www.facebook.com/IrishArchitecturalTechnologyGraduatesNetwork

Hope that works topcatcbr......it's definitely there!

Got it Thanks

Not great profiling that it won't come up in a Facebook search.

jimmy_presley wrote: »

I'm not privy to everything but there are moves afoot to get things moving again, in a neutral fashion, and whether you're a member of either organisation it won't make a damned bit of difference for the time being so I for one would say don't waste your money........just yet.

It's a personal choice of course but taking a punt on either organisation at the moment is just that.....a punt.

Please enlighten us on this jimmy, it sounds to me like another sop being put in our direction to try to stop us doing anything. A large number of AT's have tried sitting on the fence for years and I think they have all just fallen off, are you suggesting another wait and see approach when its already too late?