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Litter on N32

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  • 13-02-2019 4:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭


    What is the crack with the N32, I know there is halting site off it (not that should be any excuse). But the road is in a heap, it is literally littered with bags all along it and trees with bags. It looks awful, have DCC or is it Fingal just given up hope on this road?

    Imagine been a tourist seeing that mess. There was a matress outside the haulting site too, do these people not care about the dirt around the estate there? It's mind boggling that not even a few of them give a toss.

    Are there other roads as bad as it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    TallGlass wrote: »
    What is the crack with the N32, I know there is halting site off it (not that should be any excuse). But the road is in a heap, it is literally littered with bags all along it and trees with bags. It looks awful, have DCC or is it Fingal just given up hope on this road?

    Imagine been a tourist seeing that mess. There was a matress outside the haulting site too, do these people not care about the dirt around the estate there? It's mind boggling that not even a few of them give a toss.

    Are there other roads as bad as it?

    Why would they care? They haven't paid for anything so they don't give a stuff.

    Halting sites and the environs are always full of dirt and rubbish..the council keeps taking it away and the good people keep dumping it.

    Plenty of dumping up my way too..i had "words" with somebody who was leaving bags beside bins on my road all the time. The excuse i got was that he couldnt afford the bin charges (19 euro) but his rubbish indicated he had plenty of money to spend on Budweiser,John Player Blue and various types of takeaways.

    I told him the next time he did it i was gonna smash his front window and throw his bags of crap in through the hole..seemed to do the trick :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    With the bushes being bare you can see in to the halting site and if you think the mess is bad on the road it looks worse in there but the roads a right mess and no these people don't give a flying f*** they live in squalor of their own making so it doesn't bother them. They've always lived like that even back in the day dunsink was a dump where they lived even before you got to actual dump


  • Registered Users Posts: 769 ✭✭✭annoyedgal


    Was actually wondering this week who to write to to log a complaint about this. It's absolutely shocking at the moment! Plastic bags in every tree, just sickening. those responsible should be held accountable but sure it will never happen....just horrible to see such blatant disregard for surroundings and nature. Gives me the rage driving this road.....rant over!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Forgtt to mention about the regular burning you see driving by there or even pulling out of Clare hall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Leave us alone. We arnt built the same way settled people are built. I was settled from a young age, like many settled travellers hold down a job and work away.

    Sometimes deep in me belly I feel like getting in the car and driving to the west of Ireland and watching the ocean roar. It’s inbuilt inside me insides.

    A lot of lads on the sites make their living taking away settled peoples rubbish for a price you could t bring to the dump. That’s why the settled people use travellers to take their rubbish.

    You bate a people down for generations, give them nothing but rubbish dumping then complain when they make a mess.

    I had to change my name to get a job. It broke me daddies heart so much that he came
    Into my first job drunk off his head roaring my real name.

    I’ve said too much. Maybe give honest travellers a fair crack of the whip. Let them get jobs that’ll keep them fed not scratching about trying to find a few extra euro dumping rubbish for you while you complain when you see the rubbish on the pretty road.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    annoyedgal wrote: »
    Was actually wondering this week who to write to to log a complaint about this. It's absolutely shocking at the moment! Plastic bags in every tree, just sickening. those responsible should be held accountable but sure it will never happen....just horrible to see such blatant disregard for surroundings and nature. Gives me the rage driving this road.....rant over!

    Pavee Point or that mouth piece John Connors would be a good place to start.

    I travel the N32 a number of times a day most days and the council are constantly out cleaning up the rubbish fvcked over the walls from the two halting sites so we can't point at the council for this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    neris wrote: »
    Forgtt to mention about the regular burning you see driving by there or even pulling out of Clare hall

    Plastic being burnt off copper wire, a sad feature indeed.

    There doesn't seem to be any appetite to do away with the activity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,115 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    neris wrote: »
    Forgtt to mention about the regular burning you see driving by there or even pulling out of Clare hall
    imme wrote: »
    Plastic being burnt off copper wire, a sad feature indeed.

    There doesn't seem to be any appetite to do away with the activity.


    Yes usually they do it once it gets dark, thick black toxic smoke going in to the air, not a word said.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Never seen it as bad as it was this week. Think it was the strong winds over the weekend that picked up all the rubbish dumped over the walls by the ethnic group.

    If you look around the perimeter of their site on google maps satellite you can just see rubbish dumped all over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Good quality cctv would help to sort it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Good quality cctv would help to sort it?

    Nah, CCTV would just get smashed, wouldn't it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Effects wrote: »
    Nah, CCTV would just get smashed, wouldn't it?

    High up mounted on a street light. Well positioned?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Good quality cctv would help to sort it?

    Its questionable. The people littering the area just don't give a dam. You can prosecute them and fine them and they won't pay up and just continue on doing it. Its hard to know what to do with that type of individual that has no respect for themselves or anyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    bobbyss wrote: »
    High up mounted on a street light. Well positioned?

    They tried that somewhere in Dublin, the lads stole a truck and rammed it down!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Its questionable. The people littering the area just don't give a dam. You can prosecute them and fine them and they won't pay up and just continue on doing it. Its hard to know what to do with that type of individual that has no respect for themselves or anyone else.

    What I don't understand is, travellers are quite proud of the homes (I think!) and have them nice and clean. It's just the most weird thing that people want to live in this type of filth and are happy to be surrounded by dirt, let alone to have to look at that mess each day would drive me mental.

    Like a tourist going to The Hilton Hotel and seeing that, it's purely embarrassing.

    Along with the fact this is the damage we can see been done, I wonder what is going on that we don't see.

    I'd nearly offer help if a group of us when to clean it up, but is there a point. Seems like it will just end up this way again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭highdef


    Just to clarify one point, in case it may be causing some people confusion, the road in question is the R139. The N32 ceased to exist several years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    It'll always be the N32


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭highdef


    hankless wrote: »
    It'll always be the N32

    Dublin Fire Brigade seems to disagree in their post above :P

    Anyway, I'm heading into Dublin to do so some shopping. Will meet my friends at Nelsons Pillar on Sackville Street. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    hankless wrote: »
    It'll always be the N32

    N324eva

    Don't mind them R126 Free State bastards!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭highdef


    fatknacker wrote: »
    N324eva

    Don't mind them R126 Free State bastards!

    Leave the people from Donabate and Portrane out off this! LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    An illegal rubbish dump is continuing to operate in north Dublin, despite Dublin City Council spending more than €230,000 last year to remove accumulated waste from the site.

    Residents in Darndale say the green space facing the Belcamp Gardens and Moatview Court estates has been used as a dumping ground for decades, despite periodic attempts to clear the area by the council.

    “I’ve been here nearly 30 years and the dump has been there almost all that time, but it was never as bad before the bin charges came in. Now it’s just constant dumping – it’s become a hill of rubbish,” one man living close to the site said.

    Another resident with two young daughters said he had not been able to allow them to play on the green space since he moved in, 18 months ago.

    Why the residents of Belcamp Gardens have been forced to live next to such a public health hazard needs to be explained
    “There are rats running around, syringes, nappies, all sorts of rubbish. You couldn’t let kids out. When the council cleaned it up last summer, straight away it started filling up again. People come in the night and dump out bags and bags of rubbish. To be honest I’m embarrassed to have anyone come to the house at this stage.”

    A women who has lived opposite the site for 13 years said the dumping goes on “morning, noon and night” with impunity.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/illegal-dublin-dump-still-running-after-230-000-clean-up-1.3814103


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭millb


    solution is for local community action to organise and clean it up with input from stakeholders.. which includes the folks in the halting site


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    millb wrote: »
    solution is for local community action to organise and clean it up with input from stakeholders.. which includes the folks in the halting site

    They dont give a **** or feel too intimidated/fearful to do anything, plus its all great for them to give out about but ask them to anything and they,ll probably say "not up to me to clean or give a hand, thats the councils job"


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    I didn't realise the road had gotten so bad. I was on it yesterday and this thread came to mind so I was going to keep an eye out to see what people were talking about. Even if i'd never seen this thread, the road is an absolute mess. I can only imagine that local politicians or councilors don't really care. Which is endemic of that part of our county anyway.

    It's easy to blame the travellers, but to allow the area get like that is not entirely their fault. Facilities, awareness and education is needed. Not finger pointing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭highdef


    Can I assume that there are no bin collections in the halting sites along this road? It's the only reason I can think of for the rubbish pile to build. If there are bin collections provided, there is no real excuse.....no more than in any other residential area/housing estate. We're all equals, traveller or settled, aren't we??? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    highdef wrote: »
    Can I assume that there are no bin collections in the halting sites along this road? It's the only reason I can think of for the rubbish pile to build. If there are bin collections provided, there is no real excuse.....no more than in any other residential area/housing estate. We're all equals, traveller or settled, aren't we??? :rolleyes:

    Alot of the stuff isnt just normal rubbish its all sorts of crap from bits of caravans and kitchen chairs to kids toys. Try to get a look in through the fences and hedging next time your passing by.

    I noticed they have a few truck cabs sitting in one site beside the road, you can just see the tops of the cabs, wondering are they getting into the end of life vehicle dismantling business but wouldnt be surpised if theyre already at this


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭highdef


    I wonder how long it would take for action to be taken against me if I decided to discard of my household rubbish, furniture, DIY leftovers, etc in the nearest greenspace on a frequent basis.....not very long at all, I'm sure.

    I feel that I am being victimised because in my culture, society does not allow me to dump my rubbish where I want yet other cultures living in the same country seem to get away with it in a disproportionate way with officials doing very little to put an end to this 3rd world type behaviour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 769 ✭✭✭annoyedgal


    If you leave a bag of clothes beside the clothes recycling bank because its full you'll be fined as happened two people i know. Identified via cctv of reg plates.
    This bugs the crap out of me. Go after that person as you know they will pay up and not give hassle. Then let a road like that become a total dump with no consequence to the people dumping there. Total disgrace.
    Coincidentally drove into mattress micks at the wkd behind the nearby lidl. Lots of dumping around there too. Very off putting as a potential customer and a shame for the businesses in there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    The thing aswell with that road is its used to bring visiting dignitaries like foreign PMs & EU big wigs into Govt buildings, have to wonder what they think when theyre flying by with a garda escort. Years ago when Ireland had the EU presidency and Bertie was leading us into bankruptcy they put mesh fencing & stuff up on the road so visitors wouldnt see the sites and all their rubbish. The locals and PC brigade spent about 2 days on whineline

    And I bet if you drove up there with a bag of clothes and dumped them from your car youd have a litter fine in the post within the week


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