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Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00



    From reading the statement, if Leopold König is fit, then there might not be room for a sprinter (Sam) in the final squad. But Sam does have the team's two victories this season to his name so he definitely deserves to go to the TdF.

    Sam is riding in the World Ports Classic at the weekend, and then the Bayern Rundfahrt the week after.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Bikerbhoy


    From reading the statement, if Leopold König is fit, then there might not be room for a sprinter (Sam) in the final squad. But Sam does have the team's two victories this season to his name so he definitely deserves to go to the TdF.

    No doubting Sams success so far this season but there is a difference between what he deserves and what he is ready for.....as much as Id love to see him at this years tour Im not sure it would be the best decision for him this year .... however in saying that it is Sam we are talking about here. . . exciting times......


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Bikerbhoy wrote: »
    No doubting Sams success so far this season but there is a difference between what he deserves and what he is ready for.....as much as Id love to see him at this years tour Im not sure it would be the best decision for him this year .... however in saying that it is Sam we are talking about here. . . exciting times......

    If he's good enough he's old enough. And it sure looks like he's good enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Bikerbhoy


    If he's good enough he's old enough. And it sure looks like he's good enough

    Realistically there is a little bit more to it than that . . .


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭connachta


    Come on! Machado is the only one who could help Koenig into climbing! what about the 7 others? How many riders escaped finishes stages in front during the Tour? 4 or 5! Chance for Net-App to be top 10, just 1 time?? 5/10 % Whereas with Sam, even if he quits after the 1st week, it's 3 or 4 top 10 guaranted!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭MPFG


    I imagine Net App want Koenig to win a stage if not 2 ....he has a great finish esp on the medium mountains and thus will need support ...If they bring Sam he will have no train and will have to do it himself...I hope they take him as the experience will be invaluable ...so he can maybe in a few years win stages


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 74,773 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    First season racing at this level - so far he has done incredibly well, but to now go into a 3 week Grand Tour would be a hell of a leap. I personally think he would be better off sitting this out/being left out this year. He's done particularly well in some one day races this year and there will be plenty of opportunity to develop his ability to compete at Grand Tour level over the next year or two. However goung into the Tour now and dropping out after a week or so may do more damage than good and potentially limit furture opportunities at that level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    But if it's part of the plan for him to do maybe 10 days and he only does 8 days it's hardly going to effect his development.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭connachta


    But if it's part of the plan for him to do maybe 10 days and he only does 8 days it's hardly going to effect his development.

    Exacly, and psychologicaly it's far better for him to finish top 10 behind Caven, Kittel etc, than 2nd or 3rd on secondary rides

    To compare: Cavendish 1st Tour de France at 22, he fell, he also quit the next one after 15 days to avoid mountain. Is he "damaged" or the best in the word?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    connachta wrote: »
    Exacly, and psychologicaly it's far better for him to finish top 10 behind Caven, Kittel etc, than 2nd or 3rd on secondary rides

    To compare: Cavendish 1st Tour de France at 22, he fell, he also quit the next one after 15 days to avoid mountain. Is he "damaged" or the best in the word?


    He's only top 3 :-) kittel is better and sagan has more style :-)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭connachta


    Agree, but don't broke my rhetorical effect! ^^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭MPFG


    If he's good enough he's old enough. And it sure looks like he's good enough

    I agree totally ...

    Bennett is 24 this year ...how much older does he need to be start at this level

    Boy Van Poppel rode his first Grand Tour last year at 19 ....and left after 10 days I think

    What age was Kittle , Bouhanni, Cav , Petacchi etc when they rode there first Grand Tour

    How many 24 year olds (or younger) are riding the Giro at present ...and how many very high on GC ...quite a few

    If he wants to be up there wining at 27 then he needs to start now

    Its not like he needs to do the last difficult week


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭connachta


    For everyone interested in Sam, World ports classic today with Griepel!


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭circler


    I see he finished 23rd. Any reports online yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭MPFG


    circler wrote: »
    I see he finished 23rd. Any reports online yet?

    Haven't seen any reports just a tweet from sam sayign he messed up in some corner or other


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭connachta


    Benett fifth today, good sprint for him


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    4th today in Bayern Rundfahrt opener


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    4th today in Bayern Rundfahrt opener

    Short highlights

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOoPbDS88o


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭circler


    Jensie's Diary is up too. (Still can't post links so apols): youtube.com/watch?v=ioBl5_OrRsY


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Another great ride by Sam in Stage 2 of Bayern Rundfahrt.

    Yes he did come 2nd last (127th) ... but it was a summit finish.
    Impressively, he won the first two intermediate sprints (and he managed a second place in a KOM). He now lies in second place in the sprint classification.

    Stage 3 today is relatively flat with a couple of small uncategorised bumps at the end. I don't think it's tough enough to drop the sprinters, but I could be wrong.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Another great ride by Sam in Stage 2 of Bayern Rundfahrt.

    Yes he did come 2nd last (127th) ... but it was a summit finish.
    Impressively, he won the first two intermediate sprints (and he managed a second place in a KOM). He now lies in second place in the sprint classification.

    Stage 3 today is relatively flat with a couple of small uncategorised bumps at the end. I don't think it's tough enough to drop the sprinters, but I could be wrong.

    That is good going, fair play to him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Possibly saving himself for today? He's usually quite good at getting over hilly stuff as long as it's not to long/steep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    happytramp wrote: »
    Possibly saving himself for today? He's usually quite good at getting over hilly stuff as long as it's not to long/steep.

    He was in the breakaway yesterday so it was probably a combination of being tired, and taking it easy on the last climb. The GC riders contested for the stage win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    He was second overall in the points race going into today's itt. Hopefully he wins tomorrow and also wins the points jersey.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Dura Ace



    He's now down to 4th in the UCI Europe Tour rankings.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Super stuff, what a prospect


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Glass Prison 1214


    Dura Ace wrote: »
    He's now down to 4th in the UCI Europe Tour rankings.

    Second according to the UCI website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭MPFG


    Sam Bennett (NetApp-Endura) wins Stage 5 of the Bayern Rundfahrt.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Fantastic !


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