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If America implodes (e.g. via Civil war), who will come to her aid

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  • #32
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 27,786 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    It was much further away then. By the time anyone got there it was over.

    It lasted longer than the War of 1812 during which the British burned the White House, laid siege to Baltimore (which inspired the Star Spangled Banner) and had a landing force defeated at New Orleans by future president Andrew Jackson.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #33
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,395 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Los Alamo wrote: »
    If only you Brits had guns, maybe you could done something about the 'Asian' rape gangs that prey on your girls.

    See you on your next account :rolleyes:


  • #34
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Why do they call it a civil war anyways, it's a walking contradiction.


  • #35
    Jimbob1977
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Malcolm X and other black nationalists wanted a few states to establish a black homeland.

    I think he had his eye on Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama.

    You'd have to give Native Americans parts of the Prairies and South West.

    Latinos could have border states.

    I don't think Civil War would break out in a structured way.

    Just a deterioration in law and order, leading to extreme violence and widespread crime. Something akin to Robocop, Soylent Green or The Purge.


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Be like Spain in 36.

    General Trumpo and his Nationalists v the Republican Democrats


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  • #37
    gigantic09
    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gigantic09


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Why do they call it a civil war anyways, it's a walking contradiction.


    You're dead right Axel.


  • #38
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,447 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It would be a good opportunity to return the territory to the people who were there before all the troublemakers arrived. Spain, Germany, Italy, Ireland and the rest could take our people back. Canada could help in organising it.


  • #39
    shrewd
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Why do they call it a civil war anyways, it's a walking contradiction.

    How does civilian war sound to you?


  • #40
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,670 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    gigantic09 wrote: »
    You're dead right Axel.

    What so civil about war anyway.




    Time to check Spotify for a song now


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    It was much further away then. By the time anyone got there it was over.

    The English had a benevolent neutrality towards the confederate states in that it allowed warships to be built in England and blockade runners brought in munitions etc in return for cotton and tobaco.
    France had troops in Mexico at the time that could have been a help to either side if they decided to get involved but decided to stay neutral.

    As for today, no one would be getting involved


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Halenvaneddie wrote: »
    The soy consuming comrades won’t last long

    Yeah, this probably..

    I saw a thing a while ago about this..
    "One side has been stockpiling weapons..one side doesn't know which toilet to use.."


  • #43
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I reckon Pierre
    Trudeau would put Canada forward as the lead country in the UN backed peace mission.

    And I think Gary Trudeau would draw the cartoon about it.


  • #44
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,447 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I reckon Pierre
    Trudeau would put Canada forward as the lead country in the UN backed peace mission.

    And I think Gary Trudeau would draw the cartoon about it.

    Canada would get millions of refugees. Like I said they could process them for return to Europe.


  • #45
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This threads reminds me of this PC game

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #46
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,895 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    If we indulge the fantasy of a catastrophic civil war, I could see California and New York seceding, and staying out of the mess. Their economies are big enough and independent enough not to need the other states, so self preservation would kick in. California might take Oregon and Washington with them. They already have the “Western States Pact.” - which is only a loose agreement on how to handle Covid 19 restrictions, but it shows they’re working together on some level as a unit. Would NY take NJ and New England with them? I think the real mess would be in the rest of the states. No other country would get involved, they’d be let fight it out. Russia might cast its eye at Alaska, and some distant pacific territory might be tempting to China, if they felt they could take advantage of the situation under the guise of peace keeping.

    But look, it’s not going to come to this. A bit of protesting and rioting, at most, and then it’ll fizzle out. Even if it did get worse, the US military is too strong to allow an actual civil war (assuming it doesn’t split into two factions, but it won’t.). Anyone rising up against them would be crushed. This business of a “well armed militia” to guard against an authoritarian government - or anything else - is nonsense. No amount of action men with assault rifles will defend against the national guard, let alone the gear the of the combined army, navy, airforce and marines.


  • #47
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Well yeah, obviously they need "the help"

    Which, of course, says more about you etc. :rolleyes:


  • #48
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    If America implodes (e.g. via Civil war), who will come to her aid

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  • #49
    AMKC
    Registered Users Posts: 15,511 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Let's hope that does not happen because stock markets would crash, oil would drop and it would be very bad for all of us economically.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #50
    Tuco88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    The only thing Ireland could do is send a Christmas card ffs. We have zero military input to offer.

    Suppose we could ask Christy to write a song.


  • #51
    440Hertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    To be quite honest, if it did implode, it's so heavily armed that I think it might be impossible for anyone to come to its aid. It'd be more likely a case of securing the Canadian border.

    I have my doubts that it would ever come to that though. At worst, I think you could be heading for a situation of a lot of risks of domestic terrorism, and a security situation perhaps comparable to the Troubles.

    I've a feeling though that it *might* blow over, but then again I was wrong on Brexit and Trump being elected, so who knows.


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  • #52
    shrewd
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    It wont implode anytime soon after this speech by army chiefs commissioner

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1327620048639451139


  • #53
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    shrewd wrote: »
    It wont implode anytime soon after this speech by army chiefs commissioner

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1327620048639451139

    The first thing I said after watching that last week was "Shots fired" we are not your army we the country's army
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  • #54
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,395 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Gatling wrote: »
    The first thing I said after watching that last week was "Shots fired" we are not your army we the country's army

    It was definitely a not so subtle hint to Trump that he does not have the backing of the military if he attempts to take things to the extreme.


  • #55
    MsStote
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭MsStote


    I dare say it will settle down around June after the grumbling. What is interesting is who will run for president next term.

    If someone had to step in, probably Canada and then the UK.


  • #56
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,447 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Send in the Australian Special Forces. That will sort them out.


  • #57
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    America has been divided before. It's always had a rich poor divide. It's got lots of racial division that goes deep and for centuries. Politically, talking roughly of course, 50 % vote Democrat, 50% vote Republican.There's a north south divide and a west east divide. Civil strife? The 1960's were no cakewalk. While one part of the nation was putting men on the moon, other parts were rioting on the streets, others were blowing the crap out of rice farmers in South East Asia. Nixon didn't exactly inspire confidence with the population and then was kicked out. In the lead up to WW2 a large percentage of Americans wanted no part of it until a few Japanese lads driving Mitsubishis dropped a few bangers on their ships. So trump while an obvious and dangerous oaf is now out of there and after some gnashing of teeth it'll settle down to being the huge behemoth of a nation divided all over the place convincing itself it isn't.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #58
    JasonStatham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    shrewd wrote: »
    If America was to implode, let's say via a civil war, who will come to her rescue?

    I'll say the Ireland and UK.

    ...Or can it ever implode? every nation has a connection there. a war in America, is a world war surely.

    Aye, cos both Ireland and the Brits are like world powers to sort out the US.

    America isn't going to implode any time soon.


  • #59
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Am I the only one to notice the empty chair on the right side ,and a big event for army and no sign of the commander in chief
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  • #60
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,447 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Did you not notice the General getting out of the chair?


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  • #61
    ShatterAlan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    shrewd wrote: »
    If America was to implode, let's say via a civil war, who will come to her rescue?

    I'll say the Ireland and UK.

    ...Or can it ever implode? every nation has a connection there. a war in America, is a world war surely.




    Who gives a toss. They've killed enough innocent people to fatten their wallets. Let them kill themselves.


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