Peat Briquette RIP

There going to be missed just like peats world of electronics R.I.P.

Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Jong-Il, Ceaușescu, Castro......Eamon Ryan

screamer wrote: »

We’ll be left freezing our butts off yet, ban solid fuels and we don’t have enough electricity as it is, so see how well your heat pumps work in power cuts. My problem is not with progress, it’s the fact that there’s nothing to progress to, so we’re just putting ourselves in a precarious situation. Mad stuff really these stupid policies on the dankest Little Rock of an island we call Ireland.
The blueshirts, ironically fitting cause we’ll all be a nice shade of it with the cold.

If done correctly, airtightness and insulation (external imo), done correctly, heat pumps are a good way to go, a huge potential saving in cost if done right with Coefficients (COP) of x, lets say 2.5-3.5, you are getting that much (or whatever the COP is) 2-5 to 3-5 times energy usage per per kwh, so possibly 3 times cheaper than what you are paying per unit of electricity charged.

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think you’ll find they weren’t running the lower stations on briquettes and that the rest of the country has exited the 50s a long time ago.

You are either very poor at trolling or you have never been outside the M50.
A good day in the bog turning or footing turf might make you appreciate BnM and its efforts to wipe that hellish landscape from the Island. Alas they were betrayed by easily triggered skinny jean wearing lads with a degree in something or another

Vandalism on a national scale was what went on there by Bord Na Mona.

Deleted User wrote: »

Those BNM briquettes were junk, needed a firelighter to get them going and never a roaring flame. Now turf brought in from the bog was a different matter, once sufficiently dried the heat generated was something else. Even if they burned up in a hurry. Nostalgia from my childhood footing the stuff, different times however I'm sorry to see the peat bogs being phased out.

You giving them a bad name see below


'Peat briquettes remain the domestic fuel of choice for many as they are economical, slow-burning, give off tremendous heat and little smoke. ... This domestic fuel is often marketed as an environmentally friendly and safer fuel because they typically have a low ash and low sulphur content'

Jayziz.... I thought ye were all on about the guitarist from the Boomtown Rats! Phew.

rossie1977 wrote: »

Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Jong-Il, Ceaușescu, Castro......Eamon Ryan

Eamon Ryan...Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Jong-Il, Ceaușescu, Castro.....
Imo

The green party - a complete and utter waste of effort.
Useless morons who never actually think any of their plans through properly.

washiskin wrote: »

Jayziz.... I thought ye were all on about the guitarist from the Boomtown Rats! Phew.

Pete lives on my guitar. That's the sticker I posted above!

Patrick "Pete Briquette" Cusack is a bassist who is very much alive and well, but never burned as hot as the true Pete!

beerguts wrote: »

100% correct sir. Even though it isn't common here in Ireland we can get depressions without any substantial wind for weeks at a time. I would be afraid that we could have our grid collapse from this and if it goes down like that it can be very difficult to get it back and running quickly when conditions improve. Bring back coal or let's start planning for Nuclear.

Peat isn't really the way to go, there are ways to improve the efficiencies available from large plants producing electricity on a large scale, potentially combined with savings (in cost to generate and reductions in co2 and a means to capture by products simply not possible in one off domestic setups). Added to benefits made by individual set ups of solar thermal which is a proven functional technology, the Germans and Austrians have been using for a long time at similar latitude to us.


Increasing domestic efficiencies is possible with passive measures such as external insulation and airtightness, with heat pumps saving up to the COP possible from any given heat pump.


Coal is even possible imo in a modern set up on a large scale (not as clean as oil or gas but there are measure to reduce the pollutants, (it might even be necessary rather than finding out in 20 years we need solid fuel burning stations and all the skills gone), BnM skills and experience and people should be saved (cant see any Govt caring) both to help preserve employment and to keep our options open.
We still need oil/maybe coal and gas
But open stove? solid fuel burning in a fireplace is inefficient for the user, produces pollution worse than larger fulltime managed installations.


Nuclear, this was where I was wondering if you were being sarcastic? maybe, years of planning, pouring concrete (co2) along with the waste products, the full lifecycle cost of Nuclear doesnt take into account the storage of the byproducts, the hazard they present, and the other obvious, this is Ireland and the State doesnt seem to have the nounce to deal with private companies, ie we are past 100 billion for a hospital, instead of pouring money down the drain like that on a Nuclear project, it would be better to give grants (or very low cost loans, or tax incentives/rebates) for people who pay for it themselves to as many people as possible to have Engineered/designed solutions for the housing/buildings (schools/hospitals) we have existing for insulation/airtightness/Solar thermal/PV where suitable, rather than fund some business to bilk us all/the state for billions.


I still think, some restoration could/should be carried out on lands where peat was extracted, restored for wildlife, so hopefully not sitka spruce.
I think misuse and poor planning has led us to where we are, so flooding in areas of the West, not saying it is down to BnM or all, but something needs to be done about that and while I cant say for certain, wetlands/bogs do have some role in soaking up water and sequestering carbon. BnM and the State should move along with that.
We cant move wholesale in one go, or it will be a trainwreck, leave it too late by continually pushing the problem into the future by not tackling it as soon as possible only increases the cost of implementing something that needs to be done.


BnM/peat/Briquettes, nice to sit by a fire occasionally, maybe not anymore or only for the tourists (is there enough even to do that for effect),
BnM had its place in Ireland regarding jobs and training and the nation needed the fuel, but it is time to move on now.

edit, added to that
I think the Green party are the equivalent of champagne socialists,
I believe in realistic green, do as much as is possible, not airy fairly nonsense, I mean they supported Diesels when they only suited certain requirements, they were harping on about filament bulbs when the water was contaminated in the west and decades later its contaminated eleswhere (no surprises), the State is a house of cards.
Champagne Greens, idiots, that doesnt mean we dont need to change though.

washiskin wrote: »

Jayziz.... I thought ye were all on about the guitarist from the Boomtown Rats! Phew.

Not you too!

I’m going to buy a bale and have it kept in one of them IKEA display cabinets in the sitting room.
They’ll be worth money in time.
I can imagine the baldy lad on pawn stars looking at a bale.
“Mmm best I can do is 5 dollars, and I’m taking a huge risk at that.it could be sitting in my shop for years” lol

One of the messiest to clean after, ash everywhere, all over the house.

Take a box of firelighters to get going as previously said, weigh an absolute ton and burn very short and hardly any heat at all imo.

Do see the trucks delivering and they can't even stack them high due to the weight so much space unused.

On the heat pump issues if people have solar battery backup that will be a plus or a small generator for the just in case moments.

As new homes no longer have fires it's a thought one would need to have, also a small gas camping heater or similar as a backup.


Huge huge amount of carbon are stored and water in the bogs and we need them back to what they do best and that's absorbing this.

Big issue now is what works can you give a guy that's at that all their life and I do hear retrofitting etc, a lot will be at the age where this just wouldn't be in them to do anymore as they ain't young and I've heard quite a few stating this.