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  • #32
    MissShihTzu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    ToTheSea wrote: »
    and what exactly is wrong with a rescue dog?

    its attitudes like that, that has the rescues centres full.

    Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want. Lots of my friends here in and in the UK where I am from, have done and do that. With all due respect. We don't want that, and do not see the need to justify our decision to you or anybody.


  • #33
    ToTheSea
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭ToTheSea


    MissShihTzu wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want. Lots of my friends here in and in the UK where I am from, have done and do that. With all due respect. We don't want that, and do not see the need to justify our decision to you or anybody.

    You clearly see something wrong with taking rescue dogs considering how dismissive you were at the mere suggestion of it.


  • #34
    MissShihTzu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    ToTheSea wrote: »
    You clearly see something wrong with taking rescue dogs considering how dismissive you were at the mere suggestion of it.


    I'm not interested in what you think, nor do I care. MYOB!

    I'm out. To the OP? Stick to your guns, and hopefully, you will soon have a little friend to share your life with! :) Good luck!


  • #35
    Cherry Blossom
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    ToTheSea, welcome to the Boards Animals and Pet Issues forum. Please note that this is not a rescue forum and while we value your opinion, pushing a rescue agenda continually where it is not wanted is not tolerated here. Please keep this in mind and I would appreciate it if you would bow out of this thread before the argument escalates any further.

    Thanks,
    CB.


  • #36
    bertiebomber
    Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    why not rescue an older dog and then get your puppy the rescue will teach the puppy behaviour & manners too !

    I am saddened by the need for all the pedigree dogs this is fully caused by the influencers on instagram like the kardashians etc.

    Having a dog like a celebrity does not make you like them people are so effing thick. there are loads of pedigrees in rescue centres as they out live their usefulness after 20 snap on insta.
    I wish all celebs were banned from showing their dogs at all then there would not be soo many in the rescues. Remember these so called heros have a string of nannies to pick up **** and groom and walk the dog they only use the dogs for the shot. Never really live in reality and realise the dog is a sentient being.
    Sorry if i am a bit of topic but i get angry about animal abuse and breeders making huge profits.


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  • #37
    emmamav
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭emmamav


    bertiebomber wrote: »
    why not rescue an older dog and then get your puppy the rescue will teach the puppy behaviour & manners too !

    I am saddened by the need for all the pedigree dogs this is fully caused by the influencers on instagram like the kardashians etc.

    Having a dog like a celebrity does not make you like them people are so effing thick. there are loads of pedigrees in rescue centres as they out live their usefulness after 20 snap on insta.
    I wish all celebs were banned from showing their dogs at all then there would not be soo many in the rescues. Remember these so called heros have a string of nannies to pick up **** and groom and walk the dog they only use the dogs for the shot. Never really live in reality and realise the dog is a sentient being.
    Sorry if i am a bit of topic but i get angry about animal abuse and breeders making huge profits.

    Umm, okay....

    I already stated I only wanted one dog.

    I don't think I even implied my choice of breed was because of any celebrity or social media.
    People wanted pedigree dogs long before the Kardashians or Instagram.
    I have wanted this breed of dog since I was a child...and that was definitely before there was "influencers". Most of what I see on social media is not pedigree dogs...it's designer dogs like maltipoo, cockapoo, Goldendoodle and so on....

    I know people feel strongly about rescues, but shaming and ridiculing people who want a well bred pedigree dog is not the way to go to promote rescuing. In fact, it's made me consider it less.


  • #38
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    bertiebomber wrote: »
    why not rescue an older dog and then get your puppy the rescue will teach the puppy behaviour & manners too !

    I am saddened by the need for all the pedigree dogs this is fully caused by the influencers on instagram like the kardashians etc.

    Having a dog like a celebrity does not make you like them people are so effing thick. there are loads of pedigrees in rescue centres as they out live their usefulness after 20 snap on insta.
    I wish all celebs were banned from showing their dogs at all then there would not be soo many in the rescues. Remember these so called heros have a string of nannies to pick up **** and groom and walk the dog they only use the dogs for the shot. Never really live in reality and realise the dog is a sentient being.
    Sorry if i am a bit of topic but i get angry about animal abuse and breeders making huge profits.


    The OP hasn’t said what breed they want or if they’re an influencer and I think it’s safe to say they’re not going to abuse their pet then they’re asking advice on daycares and dog walkers!? The breeder has already turned them down so it’s safe to say they’re not a breeder making huge profits handing out puppies to the highest bidder.


  • #39
    Cherry Blossom
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    OK guys, both the potential puppy buyers on this thread have expressed that they are not interested in hearing about rescuing. Please respect their choice. Let's have no more soapboxing about rescuing on this thread. I'll remind everyone that soapboxing is a breach of the forum charter here.

    Thanks,
    CB.


  • #40
    emmamav
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭emmamav


    Thanks to all who have offered advice. I started the thread a few days ago when I was initially very upset and surprised that my chosen breeder had rejected my enquiry about getting a puppy from them. That initial disappointment has worn off now and I can see the situation more clearly.

    I am very happy that the breeder only wants the absolute best for their puppies, and if they can have them go to homes where someone is at home most of the time then I don't blame them for only picking those homes. It is good to know that there are breeders that care so much. I know there are many that give breeders a bad name.

    I want to give a dog the best life possible, and I can see that will require more planning on my part. I genuinely thought that my plan of going home at lunch was good enough.
    I am going to step back and reevaluate the situation. I like the suggestion of dog daycare, but as it's a small breed I would worry about mixing with very large dogs. I think I will try and see if my Dad would mind the dog during the day or find a service/person that minds a small number of dogs during the day.

    I'll try get a better plan sorted on what to do during the day and will contact that breeder again or contact another one.

    Thanks again!


  • #41
    Cherry Blossom
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    OP, please keep in mind that there is still a terrible thirst for puppies at the minute and folks have been bombarded with requests to buy pups from them. The fact that you got an answer at all is a positive and anyone looking to place pups at the minute will likely have their pick of homes to send them to. When I was looking for my dog I was turned down by a breeder that came very highly recommended because he did not know me and he said his pups went only to people he knew. Try not to be too disheartened by one experience. The right dog is out there for you and if the experience has made you examine your circumstances more thoroughly that is only a good thing. The right dog will not pass you by.


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  • #42
    Choc Chip
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Choc Chip


    I hope the ideas for managing a pup work out for you op. I don't know what breed you're talking about, but if you love the breeder, I'd try and keep up the contact. I wonder if they'd give you advice on what might work.

    Or (im hesitant to say this as I know you dont want to rescue so feel free to ignore) if the breeder has rehomed her older dogs before, that could be an option in future if you are desperate for one of her dogs and a puppy isnt looking like an option long term.


  • #43
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    I’d hold off until things are semi normal - whatever the new normal is going to be. Right now breeders (and rescue centres I assume) are snowed under with requests from people who have decided that lockdown is the best time to get a puppy and haven’t planned for what they’ll do when they’re not home as much etc etc.
    I would have been ready around now and I’m hopeful... but have accepted I could be waiting until the new year. I was offered an adult a few months ago like ChocChip mentions but it was just too soon. ... and I’d prefer to wait for a pup as I think it’s suit us all better.


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    If you want the dog get it during your summer holidays next year. You will have the few months to get it through the puppy stage before you go back to school.

    Just tell whatever breeder you work from home. Theyll never know you dont.

    Btw this nonsense that it's unfair to leave a dog at home is ridiculous. Plenty of humans in office cubicles or factory stations all day when I'm sure they'd like to be elsewhere and we are acting like a dog cant handle a bit of boredom at home.


  • #45
    mp3guy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,954 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If you want the dog get it during your summer holidays next year. You will have the few months to get it through the puppy stage before you go back to school.

    Just tell whatever breeder you work from home. Theyll never know you dont.

    Btw this nonsense that it's unfair to leave a dog at home is ridiculous. Plenty of humans in office cubicles or factory stations all day when I'm sure they'd like to be elsewhere and we are acting like a dog cant handle a bit of boredom at home.

    Whatever about potential social issues with dogs left alone for hours when still developing mentally, there's also the fact they'll wreak havoc in whatever way they can when young.


  • #46
    kg703
    Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭kg703


    Hi OP,

    I was in the same position as you a few years ago. Finally got our house, big garden specifically for dog. Went to a rescue and told them myself and my partners working hours (full time) and they were like.... hmmm not unless you have a plan in place for the dog during the day. We were heartbroken - we'd kept reptiles as we were in apts and had family dogs all our lives. Thinking to ourselves - but lots of people have dogs and work full time?!

    Fast forward three years and plenty of research and they are totally right. Dogs do sleep during the day but they are lonely and its unfair to leave them for long periods of time. If there is a dog walker or day care than perfect - breaks up the day for the dog. Just make sure they are well socialised as a pup!

    Following COVID both our employers told us we can work from home permanently now so we started the search (madness this year) - himself wanted a purebred bulldog puppy, I wanted a funny looking rescue. Fostered a few dogs (highly recommended if you can detach yourself after - really helped show us what is involved in looking after a dog) and ended up fostering a two year old female bulldog who we fell in love with and adopted. Best of both worlds!

    There will definitely be options for you for doggy care, albeit expensive but so worth it when getting a snuggle and a kiss on the couch ;)

    Best of luck


  • #47
    sillysmiles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    Hi emmamav, I think if you got a pup at the start of your summer holidays, by the time you are fully back in school in Sept the pup would be approx 5 months old and should be able to manage being on its own during the day, esp if someone was able to pop in at lunch time.
    Personally if this is the breed you really want, I would go back to the breeder and talk to them some more, explain you are disappointed but agree with their decisions and ask them if they thought getting a pup in late May would give you enough time to get settled before going back to school. Essentially keep talking to them if you can.


  • #48
    Dubl07
    Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    Many really good breeders have waiting lists. Tell your prospective breeder that you're prepared to wait for a subsequent litter so that you will have things like a walker put into place, but you'd ideally want the pup at the start of your holidays.

    And think outside the box... Can the puppy come into the classroom for any of the afternoons? Talk to your headmaster and see if that's an option. You don't say if you're a primary or secondary teacher. Primary would be easier in terms of numbers and educating them on how to deal with a very little dog, whereas secondary might have more responsible students. Either way, pup would need a playpen with a crate as his/her safe space that is off-limits to the pupils. We had class fish in one school, gerbils in another and my cocker pup was sometimes in with me for third year if my family weren't home. He was a velcro dog and would be glued to my ankle. I was just a pupil but it was tolerated if not really welcomed.

    Good luck.


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